Ok, here's the deal.... Mike Shaffer, current 2002 RCAA Champ, and last year's CalROCS champ, is looking for a club to team up with for Carnage FOR the Con II. The catch?????

He's on the auction block.

The club that is the highest bidder gets Mike on their team. The money goes directly to the Blue Ribbon El Dorado Forest Fund.

So who wants him?

Zombie dudes lets get some cash together that dude can wheel!

i got a dollar

Originally posted by rockhog
that dude can wheel!

Of course he can wheel. You aren't number 1 in the biggest Rock Crawling circuit in the world by being a schmuck! ;)

Now for the auction....is it just for the wheelin:eek: :eek: :p Or do I get to bid on him for....hmmm... what ever I want:evil:

Originally posted by Rocksie
what ever I want:evil: So you want him to build another Sammy super crawler THIS year, don't ya. ;) :p

The TIN:skull:BENDERS don't need no hired guns:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Mustard Dog
The TIN:skull:BENDERS don't need no hired guns:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

ohhh, good one ;)

but, it is for charity...not like whoever gets him has an advantage :rolleyes:

A RCRC sticker sure would look nice on Mike's rig for the comp!!
Sounds like a win win situation for everyone!!

It is a great idea for raising dough for the cause;)

Any idea yet on what each clubs "entry donation" will be:D

Lame:rolleyes: I thought this was a club challenge...as in, BRING WHAT YOU GOT!!! No thank you. We'll wheel the challenge as a club and see how we do.

sergei you have to make the event in order to compete seeing as you and your bro dont wheel anywhere but the web you could use shaffer :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Lance


Of course he can wheel. You aren't number 1 in the biggest Rock Crawling circuit in the world by being a schmuck! ;)

Well, explain how Terry won at Victorville then...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Scout Dude


Well, explain how Terry won at Victorville then...:flipoff2:

Mike wasn't driving. ;)

Originally posted by fj junkie
sergei you have to make the event in order to compete seeing as you and your bro dont wheel anywhere but the web you could use shaffer :flipoff2:

I just got back from JV, thank you very much :flipoff2: . . . and if my memory serves me right, we lasted a lot longer than you did at the last CalROCS event we were both entered in (SMACK)!!

Oh yea, one more thing. I'm not the one that traded by wheeler for a Harley :rolleyes:

So is that enough smack or should this web wheeler keep going? See ya on Sunday, Alan :smokin:

Originally posted by Whitewater


Mike wasn't driving. ;)

HEY :p If that roll didn't disconect the wiring to the ignition switch we'd have all over that $hit :D (it was the spotters fault):D

sergei you coming up here sunday ? what time ?
oh yeah i didnt just trade fr a harley but a bitchin ass toy rockcrawler too :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Scout Dude


Well, explain how Terry won at Victorville then...:flipoff2:

a) Unfortunately CalROCS isn't the biggest rock crawling organization, RCAA is

b) Like already mentioned, Mike wasn't driving, Rocksie was. :p

Im suprised there isn't more interest.... It IS for charity here, guys..... :p

Originally posted by Lance
Im suprised there isn't more interest.... It IS for charity here, guys..... :p

Yea, but who wants to be the team that wins because MIKE SCHAFFER was on their team?!? Are we all gonna go out buy talent in order to win a "club" challenge?

If you want to raise some $$$ for charity using Schaffer, why don't you have him auction some of his skills (cage work, bumpers, etc.) for charity? I think that'll generate more interest.

Just my $.02

Yah...that's a great idea. Im sure Shaffer has plenty of time to donate fab skills before July:rolleyes:

Yea, but who wants to be the team that wins because MIKE SCHAFFER was on their team?!? Are we all gonna go out buy talent in order to win a "club" challenge?


I think the good intentions were over looked here.
:D

Originally posted by Rocksie
Yah...that's a great idea. Im sure Shaffer has plenty of time to donate fab skills before July:rolleyes:

Took the words right out of my mouth. :rolleyes:

I'm tossing out ideas just like Lance tossed out an idea. He's not any more right than I am.

Good intentions were not overlooked. I simply think that it makes us look bad to be buying talent, regardless of good intentions.

Originally posted by Rocksie

I think the good intentions were over looked here.
:D

I am with you girlfriend. The intentions WERE completely overlooked.

Mike does not belong to a club but would like to wheel in carnage on the con. If, say the pirates, just picked him as an honorary member than the other clubs would automatically say it was cheating. So the fair opportunity to have him as part of your team is not buy HIM...it is to donate the most money for a cause that we support. If you don't want him that is cool. Question is would you donate for the cause anyway?

..and he doesn't have to donate anything before July. He can donate his time after July if he wants.....after all, its for charity :rolleyes:

Oh another thing...Mike is a really cool guy. He is not one of those swollen head pricks that can't come down to earth.

I guess my reply was taking wrong..it wasn't based upon Mike driving or not...it was based on Terry winning and the Schmuck comment.;)

Originally posted by Rock Toy
..and he doesn't have to donate anything before July. He can donate his time after July if he wants.....after all, its for charity :rolleyes:

Sergei, why the hell does mike have to donate his fab skills to charity?!?!?! wtf does that have to do with Carnage for the Con????? Why don't you donate your Financial Advisor skills to charity? WTF?!?!?! We are talking about WHEELING here. :rolleyes:

I thought we were talking about charity :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Lance


Of course he can wheel. You aren't number 1 in the biggest Rock Crawling circuit in the world by being a schmuck! ;)

Sureeeee... u can be a SCHMUCK and be number 1. You just got to be the best damn SCHMUCK there is....

bwwwwahahahahahaha:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

BUTTTTT.... Mike aint no schmuck.. GREAT GUY... and his Wife is a sweets (cept when behind a wheel durring competition ehheehe)

Hell if I was in Reno still I would start my own club and bid... ifffff I knew HE got the money and not a non profit.... hes a starving business owner.... he needs money too... :D :D :D

Got get em Mike and Lance

Originally posted by Rock Toy
I thought we were talking about charity :rolleyes:

We are talking about WHEELING for charity, not fabbing or financial advising for charity.

....and I'm not a Financial Advisor. You wouldn't want my financial advise :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Rock Toy
I thought we were talking about charity :rolleyes:

Ok lets try to focus here ...We are talking about auctioning someone off...putting the money toward charity...so that person can go wheelin.... :D

Lance this is a great idea and the intention is good, however I think with the amount of shit talking that will be awarded to the winning club, it will somehow dillute it if Mike is on that team.

"You guys only won cause you had the Hired Gun" Know what I mean?

I hope this make sense;)

...so what would be a better way to do this?

Carnage on the Con was an awesome event, our first time to the Con as well, and it was to decide what club had the best rigs. So if you put Mike S. on a team it defeats the whole purpose of the original. I know it's for charity but there are so many other ways to raise money besides defeating the purpose of the competition. Just my look on it as an outsider.

Originally posted by Mustard Dog
Lance this is a great idea and the intention is good, however I think with the amount of shit talking that will be awarded to the winning club, it will somehow dillute it if Mike is on that team.

"You guys only won cause you had the Hired Gun" Know what I mean?

I hope this make sense;)

Still be better than loosing. :p

Originally posted by Lance


Still be better than loosing. :p

You got me there. I guess we need to be more concerned with keeping our junk in running order BEFORE the event:D

Originally posted by Mustard Dog


You got me there. I guess we need to be more concerned with keeping our junk in running order BEFORE the event:D

Well let's do the math with last year's scores....

Let's say Shaffer was on team Bender last year, and got a perfect score of ZERO. Team Bender would STILL have lost to POR by 20 points. ;)

Your loosing the point here guys
THAT was Carnage ON the CON
THIS IS FOR THE CON get it??...A CHARITY!!!

the purpose is to raise money FOR the con, if your pussy ass club gets spanked because a smarter club donates more cash to keep the con open we all win..

With that said let Rocksie drive Mikes rig, and an offical club member spot

I agree with flashlighman here. Maybe we can change this to be an auction for his rig for athe comp. Let a club meber of whicever club wants to rent his rig for the event. It is still a club challenge, and the Con still get the fuindage. This way the club with the rig can say it was a lot of driver's skill, not only the rig that won the event.

DImitri

Originally posted by Flatty
I agree with flashlighman here. Maybe we can change this to be an auction for his rig for athe comp. Let a club meber of whicever club wants to rent his rig for the event. It is still a club challenge, and the Con still get the fuindage. This way the club with the rig can say it was a lot of driver's skill, not only the rig that won the event.

DImitri

Dude! That is kind of overboard. Renting out his rig that would more than likely inevitably end up getting a few thousand $ of damage having somebody that does not know his rig driving in a mini competition. Maybe we should just forget this offer. :rolleyes:

So, what's the current high bid?

Forget it..... This offer has been withdrawn.