Just wanted to see if anyone has any pics of that thing....it looks freakin cool!!!

I assume you are talking about the pic in the new Peterson's. It will be a while before it is done. It is still just a tube frame, and it isn't a priority right now. Try to find some pics of John Gilliland's new ARCA truck. He had a Liberty built by Avalanche that came out pretty cool. Looks good and works really good.

Here is the one by Avalanche: http://www.avalancheengineering.com/buggies/gilliand_buggy.jpg

I do not have a body picture of the Liberty buggy, but I did take a few pictures of the under carriage and the interior. I will attach them.

Way

P.S. FYI, the link posted by Brian didn't pull up

EDIT: (found picture)
http://www.avalancheengr.com/buggies/gilliand_buggy.jpg

Another picture of the rear axle set up. I didn't understand all of the holes in the suspension bracketry though???

Here is what the cockpit looks like. TIG chromoly roll cage is a nice touch.

Way

These pictures were taken at the ARCA Farmington event. The rig was running custom grooved BFG prototype tires that did well with all of the grooving.

Check out his competition. His rear steer had some strength issues. Check out the whees!!! It was fun watching him continue this obstacle. He did a good job completing the obstacle after this happened (with a winch though).

Way

Ok that's not a liberty but a buggy with a part of a KJ hood!

Originally posted by Way
I didn't understand all of the holes in the suspension bracketry though???

Its just being artistic. Cool.
Kind of gives it the road worrier look. :trooper:

so what makes that thing a liberty? couldnt they just as well pulled the hood off of a ford tuarus and had the only tuarus competing in ARCA? or am i missing something..

It is just a way of naming it. The liberty body parts are the only form of stock body on it. If you want to make a Taurus rockcrawler, go right ahead. Better yet, a Civic.:flipoff2:

It is a lot like calling Lance's rig a FJ-40 or mine a CJ 2A. Ours are just that way on the title.

Erin

My crazy little brother is a Liberty freak. Stay tuned for his Liberty front clipped-Suzuki Samurai hardtop. Should be pretty interesting, considering we are going to do it ourselves! It'll be rolling around Spearfish in a couple of months.

Ok that's not a liberty but a buggy with a part of a KJ hood!

What about the grill???:flipoff2:

Way

Sahara Edition KJ
http://liberty-4-all.jeepz.com/images/stuff17.jpg
http://liberty-4-all.jeepz.com/images/17ramp.jpg

Originally posted by Liberty-4-All

Sahara Edition KJ
http://liberty-4-all.jeepz.com/images/stuff17.jpg
http://liberty-4-all.jeepz.com/images/17ramp.jpg

Oh Fawk..here we go again with another xterra thread:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

This thing is really state-of-the-art. Beautifully balanced and it has some awesome lines.

Liberty or not, it is WAY cool.

From the top...

Originally posted by wngrog

Liberty or not, it is WAY cool.

Yeah, a hood and grille on a tube chassis don't make it a Liberty. But it's cool I guess, the funny car, pro stock, and Nascar guys have been doing it for years. :D

http://liberty-4-all.jeepz.com/images/stuff17.jpg

What size tires are those? Sh!t they look like P225s that barely fit in the wheel well:eek: :eek:

What size tires are those? Sh!t they look like P225s that barely fit in the wheel well:eek: :eek:

No way...all of 245/75/16s ( 30.6" OD ). I knew you wanted to know. I just saw a "banner ad" for the Jeep Liberty on this board. What is the world coming to???

wow ... a 30" tire :rolleyes:

- jack

http://www.trailready.com/New%20Pictures/Mvc-357x.jpg

Holy Sh!t a picture of someone else rig:eek: Guess that proves your point, what was it again:confused:

By the way what size tires are those 31 or 32. A SAS, all that work, and all those HUGE ASS bumpers to fit that size tire, :rolleyes:

By the way that's not the twisted customs liberty, neither was the first picture you posted, so what's going on:confused: are you just not linking them right :flipoff2:

Dear Gawd, please don't let this thread go 5 pages :barf:

You can't polish a turd. The End.

Originally posted by bigdude
Holy Sh!t a picture of someone else rig:eek: Guess that proves your point, what was it again:confused:
I guess the original post of the TCL was the vehicle of the person who posted.

By the way what size tires are those 31 or 32. A SAS, all that work, and all those HUGE ASS bumpers to fit that size tire, :rolleyes:
At least it was an effort that required some engineering. They did not "buy" a lift kit and say look at me! It is a good start IMHO.

By the way that's not the twisted customs liberty, neither was the first picture you posted, so what's going on:confused: are you just not linking them right :flipoff2:

I seem to remember a pic of a different Jeep with a broken rear steer pic in this thread. Does that mean he has problem linking them right?

As for the point...I thought the TCL was interesting. I also thought the TrailReady KJ was relevant to show a "stock" body KJ and what has been done. Mine just shows where it starts.

Stock...SAS...TCL...that is the point!

i like the sas. they could have lifted it higher and put larger tires on it. then atleast you could wheel it and put some dents in it to help it look better!

the bumpers suck and look like poop!:flipoff2:

I guess the original post of the TCL was the vehicle of the person who posted

No- It was a post asking for picture of the TCL, which you did not supply.

At least it was an effort that required some engineering. They did not "buy" a lift kit and say look at me!

True, it did involve engineering, but how much and at what benefit. Now with whatever engineering they've done they can run 31s with humongous bumpers, definitely worth the effort. Unless they can market it to a bunch of new owners in some form for profit, I don't see the point. I also don't see that happening because a SAS is something you won't find many mall crawlers willing to do. (oops did I say mall crawler, I meant armor-all crawler, I meant loading-dock crawler, I meant KJ owner, sorry :D ) All that work to run 31s with (if that suspension is maxed) such little travel is beyond my comprehension.

I also thought the TrailReady KJ was relevant to show a "stock" body KJ and what has been done. Mine just shows where it starts.

Stock...SAS...TCL...that is the point!

Cosidering your infinite wisdom as to the posts intention- I'd like to know where you got from the original post that he wanted to see the "stock" and "trailready big bumper KJ" because I missed that. All I read was thisTwisted Customs Liberty pics?

BigDude,

Lighten up on the Heep guy. It looks like he worked his ass off on that Liberty.


Would I have gone through that trouble for the end results? No, but you have to admit it IS the best Liberty that exists on planet Earth!

Lighten up on the Heep guy. It looks like he worked his ass off on that Liberty.


I guess I just forgot how much work it takes to armor all 30" tires, sorry:(

Originally posted by bigdude



True, it did involve engineering, but how much and at what benefit. Now with whatever engineering they've done they can run 31s with humongous bumpers, definitely worth the effort. Unless they can market it to a bunch of new owners in some form for profit, I don't see the point. I also don't see that happening because a SAS is something you won't find many mall crawlers willing to do. (oops did I say mall crawler, I meant armor-all crawler, I meant loading-dock crawler, I meant KJ owner, sorry :D ) All that work to run 31s with (if that suspension is maxed) such little travel is beyond my comprehension.

Looks more like 32-33s but that is beside the point. It looks like a good "first" effort. They stepped up and did the work and improved the KJ without a doubt. Whether it is "maxed out" or not, it looks as good as most lifted Cherokees ect after thier first lift. Who cares what the RTI is...it performs better than a stock KJ. That is what it is about...building a better mouse trap.



Cosidering your infinite wisdom as to the posts intention- I'd like to know where you got from the original post that he wanted to see the "stock" and "trailready big bumper KJ" because I missed that. All I read was this

When did I say I knew the original intent of the thread? I said I thought it was relevant...big difference. In a general sense, it was a thread on a "Liberty". Again, you did not mention the pic of the Jeep with the broken rear steering. It was not a KJ at all but it was "relevant".

I am not trying to start shit here... just reading and posting!

When did I say I knew the original intent of the thread? I said I thought it was relevant...big difference.

I guess I just don't understand why it would be "relevant" if it didn't relate to the intent of thread as listed in the topic.

Again, you did not mention the pic of the Jeep with the broken rear steering. It was not a KJ at all but it was "relevant".


I guess you don't "get" the fact that (and I'm assuming here just to let you know) the original post was for pics of a custom rock buggy. It just happens to have a KJ grill and hood (modified I'm sure) so it's called a liberty. I'm sure the engineering of this buggy is what was desired by the inquiry for pics, not pictures of "stock" KJs. Since someone was inquiring about a rock buggy I find the picture of the "broken rear steer" vehicle to be much more "relevant" than your "stock" KJ picture because it is a competition vehicle. The trailready KJ has been on here before, and I think it was just as :rainbow: then.

By the way I'm bored at work so it's not like I'm "trying" to start sh!t, but it keeps me busy armor-all man:D

Originally posted by bigdude



By the way I'm bored at work so it's not like I'm "trying" to start sh!t, but it keeps me busy armor-all man:D

It was Turtle Wax Formula 2001 Tire Foam Shine.

I am having a shitty day at work so this is keeping up my "humerous side". Later, I must go apply another coat...:rasta:

How many cans do you think it'll take to do my 38's. Oh yeah I want to inside and out, thanks for the help:D

Originally posted by bigdude
How many cans do you think it'll take to do my 38's. Oh yeah I want to inside and out, thanks for the help:D Let's see...5 tires including the spare...both sides...that makes 10 surface areas.

38" tires with a radius of 19"...what is the area in sqaure inches...PI ( radius squared )...3.14 ( 19 x 19 )...~1,133 square inches...minus the square inches of the rim...3.14 ( 7.5 x 7.5 )...assuming 15" rims...~176 square inches.

Now 1,133 minus the 176...957 square inches per side times 10 sides=9,570 square inches of surface to cover. Without wasting a drop you should be able to coat you wheels 5 times with enough left over to do the steering wheel ( don't want to leave any wheel out ).

I didn't understand all of the holes in the suspension bracketry though

IMHO, that is atrocious engineering. Maybe it's overbuilt enough to compensate...but all those holes like that serve no purpose really (except to proclaim that the guy who drilled or punched them didn't really know what he was doing) and they create hundreds of stress risers.

really bad bad idea, IMHO.

All this B.S and still no twisted customs pics.......:confused: :rasta:

I don't think it matters what kind of kj it is as long as you wheel it!! Rock buggy or not it is still cool to see what kinds of stuff people are doing to these things. good job to all who are cuttin and sawin on any of their wheelers.



:jeep: DOG