: Tell me about this rig..
coachgeo 04-19-2002, 07:15 PM It is a 73 High Boy... Ford.... suposedly dana 60's front and rear. Im interested in purchasing it to part out the axils.
Whats supposet to be in it?
Engine type? was told it is a 360 and it runs.
Axils?
Axil Widths?
Is it leaf in front or radiouse arms.. ( looks leaf to me?)
If arms, would radiouse arms be cast into the tubes or welded on?
Bolt pattern?
Brake types?
Would the front spindles make for a good high steer?
What Trany? (this one has a 4 speed stick)
What Tcase?
does anyone see conflicts in using these axils to graft into a jeep TJ? Besides being over kill..
if I used only the axils... how sellable would the other parts be? If saleable.. what would be appropriate price ranges for the major parts?
coachgeo 04-19-2002, 07:18 PM here is the front shot
coachgeo 04-19-2002, 07:22 PM Thank you in advance for any help u guys and gals give me?
If stock:
rear axle: Dana 60 with 16 spline axles probably 4:10 ratio
Front axle: looks like the internal hub #3200 Closed knuckle Dana-44. low pinion and very heavy.
T-case: Np-205 divroced(Dana-24 was availible but not many were so equipte.
Leaf springs front and rear.
360Fe was the stock engine.
Drums all the way around with 8 lug wheels
Np-435 4-speed although the T-18 was also used.
about 68" WMS
Not a lot of call for any of the parts.
don't bother using these in your TJ. better off looking for a newer truck with disc brakes.
Eric
coachgeo 04-19-2002, 08:36 PM I was told it was a dana 60 front too.. guess not unless it was swapped in.
is this the closed nuckle 44? Its hard to tell. This is a pic from that truck.
yup closed knuckle 44 probly has the small 260 joints in there too
coachgeo 04-19-2002, 09:02 PM thanx alx...
guess im still leaning ur way..
Get the BOM off of the axle and I'll tell you exactly what it is.
Eric
pavelow 04-19-2002, 09:15 PM Originally posted by Alpo23
Get the BOM off of the axle and I'll tell you exactly what it is.
Eric
Where exactly is the BOM? I have heard about it, but not sure where it is.....Thanks.
coachgeo 04-19-2002, 09:20 PM Originally posted by Alpo23
Get the BOM off of the axle and I'll tell you exactly what it is.
Eric
Truck is 5 hours from here.. and I doubt the guy knows where the BOM is... or he would have known its not a 60 up front. (again, unless it has been swapped. but the picture seems to say that its a closed knuckle 44)
ok, didn't know how far it was. It might be a D-60. they were closed knukle for '74/'75. But the knuckle looks too small, so D-44 it is. :D
Eric
Originally posted by pavelow
Where exactly is the BOM? I have heard about it, but not sure where it is.....Thanks.
Ah, grasshopper. it is like the 'G' spot:p
If it has the origanal tag under one of the Diff cover bolts that will show the BOM. The Axle tub (long side I think) has it stamped on the front side(access cover side). Too many years of rust will make it harder to find the stamped #'s on the tube.
eric
tmillspaw 04-19-2002, 09:50 PM it might be a dana 50. ive read somewhere that they were used in conjunction with the rear dana 60. dont put those axles on a jeep. no one ever advertises four-wheel antilock drum brakes. unless you plan on converting them, which brings about other problems as well. such as finding the propper rim backspacing. id take the rear axle and do a disc conversion, then salvage whatever you can from the front.
Originally posted by tmillspaw
it might be a dana 50.
Sigh......:rolleyes:
The true Dana 50 was a TTB front end for the F-250 from '80 until '97. the solid axle Dana 50 under the '98-present Superduties is a piece of crap.
Eric
coachgeo 04-19-2002, 10:23 PM Well is the dana 60 in the rear worth anything? .. ... if its a 16 spline I think no... if its bearings and all are same size or better than newer 60s and a 30 something spline shaft can bet put in after cutting the tubes and getting custom shafts then.. maybe the rear is worth little something... as a housing and maybe carrier alone.... also maybe the beefier rear brakes than my present 44's brakes.
does that make since... ?
The rear is ok to get to upgrade to 30 or with a little more work 35 spline. Find out if it has spent it's life hauling a lot of weight for most of it's life. If so I'd stay away as the gears will more than likely worn out. also the housing where the diffs outer bearing races seat on has not enought material so over the long years the races wear a groove that makes it hard to re-set up the bearings on the R&P. It is the carrying of a load near max GVW for most of it's life that kills axles. I know, My '73 F-250 carried a cab-over camper for 20 of it's 27 years and the rear was toast when it came time to rebuild.
If it has lead an easy life then the axles should be ok.
Eric
coachgeo 04-20-2002, 11:42 AM Does anyone disagree?
other wise... Thanks Alpo23 and the rest of ya.
GRMhick 04-22-2002, 08:40 PM Originally posted by coachgeo
I was told it was a dana 60 front too.. guess not unless it was swapped in.
is this the closed nuckle 44? Its hard to tell. This is a pic from that truck.
Look at the top of the knuckle, the steering arm is attached using 3 studs, a main trait of most dana 44 fronts, expecally since i dont think it was until the late 80's that ford went to a ball joint on the frotn of dana 60's, so a dana 60 of that era should be king pin.. also, look at the hubs in that picture, they are way too small to be a dana 60, most definetally a dana 44.. i say man, you will just get ripped on that truck. it is just one of those 3/4 ton's with the dana 44 dana 60.. last time i was in a yard, the guy was trying to sell me a 6 lug "dana 60" out of a 71 blazer :rolleyes: Lets just say i walked out... anyway, hope your search comes out good.
Garrett
coachgeo 04-22-2002, 08:49 PM Thanks for all the info.
I backed away from the truck due to information posted here.
off to another source for this project.
For me I consider this post dead.
THANKS ALL OF U!!!!!
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