CA legal rifles

[Spawn_X]

Trying to see if there are any rifles worth purchasing in CA. However I read that only perm. attached 10 round mags are legal? Is that the case?

If so, seems like its not worth owning :confused: someone skool me?

:evil:

[basketcasejeep]

All you need to know is here:

www.daisy.com/






:flipoff2:

[Budd]

This is a pic like mine - .357 10 shot tubular magazine:

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/zoom_1894_32.jpg

Load my own ammo and get 1800 fps out of it. Very accurate as well.:D

[DemoMike]

Get a hunting rifle, or are you planning on playing "Red Dawn"...

[Spawn_X]

This is a pic like mine - .357 10 shot tubular magazine:

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/zoom_1894_32.jpg

Load my own ammo and get 1800 fps out of it. Very accurate as well.:D

Not quite what I'm looking at.. :evil:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/blkA4alb/Untitled-2.jpg

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5508/lmt8vm.jpg

Something along those lines. An assault rifle would be cool, but if 10 round mags is all I get, then I'd rather go with something like pictured above..

I want to try and get one before CA passes any more laws banning them all-together

Thanks :D

[mike]

Just move. Problem solved :laughing:

CA's weapons rules suck ass and make little sense. IIRC you can have two of the following.

magazine ,(removable), more than 10 rounds
Muzzle break / flash suppressor
folding stock
pistol grip

Both of the rifles you pictured are illegal in CA in the configurations pictured.

[RockHammered]

This one is definately worth having. http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-rifles-m1a-stan.shtml Only a ten round mag in cali, but still a kickass rifle nonetheless.

[imgonnasnap]

http://www.kel-tec.com/images/big/su16C_01.jpg

don't have any personal experience shooting them, but they look bad ass, and are super light.

http://www.kel-tec.com/su16c.html

you take your new guns out yet?

if you want to go, hit me up.. i've been dying to shoot something..

[RockHammered]

Just move. Problem solved :laughing:

CA's weapons rules suck ass and make little sense. IIRC you can have two of the following.

magazine ,(removable), more than 10 rounds
Muzzle break / flash suppressor
folding stock
pistol grip

Both of the rifles you pictured are illegal in CA in the configurations pictured.

Can't have a removable magazine and a pistol grip on the smae rifle in cali.

[Spawn_X]

Just move. Problem solved :laughing:

CA's weapons rules suck ass and make little sense. IIRC you can have two of the following.

magazine ,(removable), more than 10 rounds
Muzzle break / flash suppressor
folding stock
pistol grip

Both of the rifles you pictured are illegal in CA in the configurations pictured.

I like SoCal :)
The guns pictured were actually taken off a california gun forum from a "post your rifles" thread.. although quite a few of them are preban, which is probably the case with these..

I don't see a point in owning an assault rifle with a 10 round mag. I'd much rather have a sniper / long range rifle setup

[mike]

Then just go buy a bolt action .308

[mike]

Can't have a removable magazine and a pistol grip on the smae rifle in cali.
Cause we all know a pistol grip makes it so much more dangerous :laughing:

[basketcasejeep]

Get a hunting rifle, or are you planning on playing "Red Dawn"...

:confused: They used hunting rifles in red dawn...



To take the AK's from the Russians. :D

[Weasel]

sig 556

[Spawn_X]

you take your new guns out yet?

took a short class and shot some rounds at Firing Line, also signed up for the yearly membership.

My right arm/grip is pretty weak, and while I was pretty decent with a .357 revolver, both the p226 and usp45 recoiled more and threw the aim way off. Once we're done moving in, I'm going to start hitting the gym again and eating more and build strength back up, so the shooting will get better. definitely gotta get together with some pbb'ers for some shooting :D

[indulf]

what about a springfield m1a? maybe the socom or socom II version? those legal in cali?

[mike]

what about a springfield m1a? maybe the socom or socom II version? those legal in cali?
I believe an m1a would be CA legal :confused:

[imgonnasnap]

took a short class and shot some rounds at Firing Line, also signed up for the yearly membership.

My right arm/grip is pretty weak, and while I was pretty decent with a .357 revolver, both the p226 and usp45 recoiled more and threw the aim way off. Once we're done moving in, I'm going to start hitting the gym again and eating more and build strength back up, so the shooting will get better. definitely gotta get together with some pbb'ers for some shooting :D

there is a sweet range over on the 91 at pioneer blvd that i go to, insight range. or we can go to the desert.. but we'd have to dig the hole first, or find a nice forgotten mine shaft..
:evil: :flipoff2:

[Diesel Smoke]

Then just go buy a bolt action .308

Yep, go get yourself a Remington Model 700. They come from in just about any trim level, from the off the rack hunting rifle to the heavy fluted barreled sniper style rifle.

The top is a Model 700 VS (Varmint Synthetic) with a 4.5x14x50mm scope and the bottom is my model 700 hunting rifle. The 700 is a great platform to build off of, plenty of aftermarket parts to keep you happy with a relatively low buy in.

http://www.binderbulletin.org/photopost/data/500/339Finished-rifle.jpg

[Spawn_X]

Thanks for the replies. Did some more searching and researching, and decided that I'll just assemble what I want after I'm more familiar with this stuff. Nothing out-of-the-box that I like..

Thanks again :D

[Drunk tank]

Hey Spawn... hit me up on AIM. I am doing an AR-15 build right now. I suggest you read this http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=266355

so yes... you have to have the attached 10 round mag. to make it legal.... also limits the types of accesories you can put on it as well. I myself, well.... lets just say for all intents and purposes that my rifle will be kept in Colorado :) I will eeventually be getting a tax stamp as well for a silencer as well

[4Mogger]

Bushmaster makes a pump action AR variant that I believe is legal in California. At least it "looks" like a black rifle and all mean and stuff:flipoff2: but I would just go with a good lever gun--can't beat Marlin especially with the new lever revolution ammo that is out.
But then there is always the Daisy--in case you don't already have one:

[Toyoda]

My first rifle was that exact red ryder. None of my toys were the same after that, or my neighbors dogs that always got out.

[Jason R]

Not quite what I'm looking at.. :evil:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/blkA4alb/Untitled-2.jpg

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5508/lmt8vm.jpg

Something along those lines. An assault rifle would be cool, but if 10 round mags is all I get, then I'd rather go with something like pictured above..

I want to try and get one before CA passes any more laws banning them all-together

Thanks :D

Actually according to Cal Guns (and the current law) those Rifles are legal as they have fixed 10 round magazines. There is a "tool" required to eject the magazines...which is nice for when you go out of state. OR IF YOU'RE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY

[chris408]

all you need.... remington 700pss

http://www.frontlinearmory.com/gunsmithing/700pss/pss1.jpg

[Spawn_X]

Hey Spawn... hit me up on AIM. I am doing an AR-15 build right now. I suggest you read this http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=266355

so yes... you have to have the attached 10 round mag. to make it legal.... also limits the types of accesories you can put on it as well. I myself, well.... lets just say for all intents and purposes that my rifle will be kept in Colorado :) I will eeventually be getting a tax stamp as well for a silencer as well

Drunkie.. You have given me hope. Thank you.

Time to start reading and doing research. I'd like to build one or two of these bad boys... :smokin:

[surlynkid]

Just move. Problem solved :laughing:

CA's weapons rules suck ass and make little sense. IIRC you can have two of the following.

magazine ,(removable), more than 10 rounds
Muzzle break / flash suppressor
folding stock
pistol grip

Both of the rifles you pictured are illegal in CA in the configurations pictured.

hi caps mags
threaded barrel (nothing permanently attached)
pistol grip
collapsable stock
bayonet lug

those are the list of 5 to pick 2.

[surlynkid]

sig 556

go with L-W or POF.

[Jason R]

hi caps mags
threaded barrel (nothing permanently attached)
pistol grip
collapsable stock
bayonet lug

those are the list of 5 to pick 2.

That's not correct by any means. Threaded barrels are NOT OK by any means. You can have a pistol grip, collapseable stock, and flash hider IF the firearm has a 10 round fixed mag.

[Overbear]

http://www.kel-tec.com/images/big/su16C_01.jpg

don't have any personal experience shooting them, but they look bad ass, and are super light.

http://www.kel-tec.com/su16c.html

you take your new guns out yet?

if you want to go, hit me up.. i've been dying to shoot something..

Great rifle, but you cant get the "C" in this state, you need to get the CA version that disengages the trigger when you fold it.

[Spawn_X]

Excellent. Going to buy me a couple off-list ar15 lowers today... :evil: :smokin:

[surlynkid]

That's not correct by any means. Threaded barrels are NOT OK by any means. You can have a pistol grip, collapseable stock, and flash hider IF the firearm has a 10 round fixed mag.

that is the base deal for pre-ban, ban stuff for the rest of the country. california and mass take it to a whole other level.

oh, and i just ordered another seven HK high reliability 15rd 5.56 mags for my AR15. :D

[Drunk tank]

From all me research... Rock River Arms makes one of the best lowers around. Thats who I am going with.

[Spawn_X]

From all me research... Rock River Arms makes one of the best lowers around. Thats who I am going with.

I'll be goin to the duarte store (gun runners) and will see what they have. I'll try to get the rock river arms, but if they don't have it, might have to get a stag or somethin.

how many you picking up?

p.s. thought you were over the gun hobby? :flipoff2:

[Budd]

From all me research... Rock River Arms makes one of the best lowers around. Thats who I am going with.

Just called them - they will not ship to California unless for law enforcement only.
:(

[Weasel]

go with L-W or POF.

a which? :confused:

[Overbear]

Just called them - they will not ship to California unless for law enforcement only.
:(

yep they are on the list thats why

stag, bear, and a few other of the "new" name lowers are NOT on the list. You have to look around and find a FFL dealer that can bring the offlist ones in fast, sell them, and get new stock in from another offlist name. It takes the DOJ about 2 months to add in new names now to the list.

[surlynkid]

Just called them - they will not ship to California unless for law enforcement only.
:(

try cmmg lowers.

[surlynkid]

a which? :confused:

Leitner-Wise or Patriot Ordnance Factory. They are piston driven uppers.

[Jason R]

I thought Rock River Arms were not listed...?

Look on Cal Guns...lots of info there. You just have to find an FFL willing to deal with the OLL (off list lowers). I'll buy a few of them when money permits...as all you need is the lower if the registration period ever starts. Or I just may move out of this fuckin' state.

I've heard very good things about Stag's lowers...I have heard that RRA has some quality issues.

[Spawn_X]

I'm debating if I should get 1 or 2.. Might get 2 but build one later, I guess

[Jason R]

Buy 3 and then just build them as you can afford...

[kodiak1232003]

what about a springfield m1a? maybe the socom or socom II version? those legal in cali?


yup, socom I & II are legal

now thats a badass rifle...

[Drunk tank]

I honestly want nothing to do witht he state of California... it can fuck itself in the ass for all I care. I'm getting my lower recievers from my sister. She's gonna go dowwn to Jensens arms in Loveland, CO and pick up some RRA lowers. then she'll just mail them to me.

[Overbear]

^^^^^---
erace that now before the wrong people see it man, that is called a straw purchace and it can get you in HOT water.

[Jason R]

yup, socom I & II are legal

now thats a badass rifle...

eh it's awful expensive for what it is...

[kodiak1232003]

think so?....yah, i'd prolly give my hard earned $$$ for a marlin guide gun in 45-70, before i'd get a socom...

and now with those new spitzer bullets, i could actually hunt more than king kong @ 50 yards with it...lol

[Drunk tank]

doesnt matter.... like I said... the gun s will be kept in my families place in Colorado.... where my sister also resides. I'll just be building it :)

As for the lower.... Ive heard lots of good things about the Stag parts as well. DPMS is good shit too. I was talking with one dealer and he was saying make sure you really check the piece out and that all the roll marks match the factory... been alot of people selling cheap chinese knockoff recievers claiming theyre RRA and such. That came from the guys over at Legal Transfers (one of RRA's oldest dealers)

[Spawn_X]

well, they didn't have the stags, but only vulcan and some other ones. I didn't research on vulcans and didn't want to drive back again so I bought it :confused: 200 bucks

[mondtster]

I've been told that the RRA lowers were manufactured by the same company as the Stags. Anyone else hear that? If so, I would try to pick up a Stag. I've heard positive feedback on them (haven't built on a Stag or a RRA myself).

BTW - Spawn, I personally would try to buy as many lowers as you can afford. You can sell them later when CA bans them and the price goes sky high. You could pay for several gun builds that way.

[Jason R]

BTW - Spawn, I personally would try to buy as many lowers as you can afford. You can sell them later when CA bans them and the price goes sky high. You could pay for several gun builds that way.

California MAY not ban them, and if they did you wouldn't be able to sell them to anyone inside California (just like current legal Cali AR-15 owners).

[Foolish]

: DOJ intern watching::grinpimp:

[Spawn_X]

: DOJ intern watching:

:laughing:

hey ozzy, I'm doing everything by the book. I only ended up getting one lower - if they do get classified as AW, I don't think you're allowed to sell them anyway? Just get to keep/mod it as your own, doubt sale of any kind will be allowed. Besides, my toy fund has basically ran out, and the ar15 won't be getting built up for a while anyway, I just wanted to grab the lower in case the law changes..

I don't fawk with the law ;) you can live much better and calmer when doing everything by the book, even if its sometimes a PITA and doesn't make sense.

Wanna go deer huntin' ozzy? we can split the meat as long as you cut it up :flipoff2:

[TheRedHorseman]

: DOJ intern watching::grinpimp:


probably frothing at the mouth and lustfully thinking of ways to further remove rights from the public as a whole............

[Spawn_X]

probably frothing at the mouth and lustfully thinking of ways to further remove rights from the public as a whole............

no.. actually he's frothing at the mouth and lustfully thinking of things he would do to young Arnold while watching one of his old training videos.....




:flipoff2:

[mondtster]

California MAY not ban them, and if they did you wouldn't be able to sell them to anyone inside California (just like current legal Cali AR-15 owners).


Really? I guess I figured that as long as you could prove it was manufactured and purchased before they put them on the list that you could transfer them like normal.

Geez, Cali has some horrendous gun laws!

[Jason R]

Really? I guess I figured that as long as you could prove it was manufactured and purchased before they put them on the list that you could transfer them like normal.

Geez, Cali has some horrendous gun laws!

Nope! And if you have registered assualt weapons (read: anything with a threaded barrel, AR15, AK47 etc.) you are NOT allowed to give it anyone inside the state, including your kids, spouse, etc. It must be destroyed or sold out-of-state. FUCK CALIFORNIA.

[Foolish]

:laughing:

hey ozzy, I'm doing everything by the book. I only ended up getting one lower - if they do get classified as AW, I don't think you're allowed to sell them anyway? Just get to keep/mod it as your own, doubt sale of any kind will be allowed. Besides, my toy fund has basically ran out, and the ar15 won't be getting built up for a while anyway, I just wanted to grab the lower in case the law changes..

I don't fawk with the law ;) you can live much better and calmer when doing everything by the book, even if its sometimes a PITA and doesn't make sense.

Wanna go deer huntin' ozzy? we can split the meat as long as you cut it up :flipoff2:

I am actually going up to Nor Cal pretty soon to go deer hunting on my dad's land. If you ever want to come up you can come boar hunting up there. I only got 2 deer tags and I'm using them both.:flipoff2: I have a zillion wild boar tags though and the season is year round.

[Foolish]

:laughing:

hey ozzy, I'm doing everything by the book. I only ended up getting one lower - if they do get classified as AW, I don't think you're allowed to sell them anyway? Just get to keep/mod it as your own, doubt sale of any kind will be allowed. Besides, my toy fund has basically ran out, and the ar15 won't be getting built up for a while anyway, I just wanted to grab the lower in case the law changes..

I don't fawk with the law ;) you can live much better and calmer when doing everything by the book, even if its sometimes a PITA and doesn't make sense.

Wanna go deer huntin' ozzy? we can split the meat as long as you cut it up :flipoff2:

I am actually going up to Nor Cal pretty soon to go deer hunting on my dad's land. If you ever want to come up you can come boar hunting up there. I only got 2 deer tags and I'm using them both.:flipoff2: I have a zillion wild boar tags though and the season is year round.

[Foolish]

:laughing:

hey ozzy, I'm doing everything by the book. I only ended up getting one lower - if they do get classified as AW, I don't think you're allowed to sell them anyway? Just get to keep/mod it as your own, doubt sale of any kind will be allowed. Besides, my toy fund has basically ran out, and the ar15 won't be getting built up for a while anyway, I just wanted to grab the lower in case the law changes..

I don't fawk with the law ;) you can live much better and calmer when doing everything by the book, even if its sometimes a PITA and doesn't make sense.

Wanna go deer huntin' ozzy? we can split the meat as long as you cut it up :flipoff2:

I am actually going up to Nor Cal pretty soon to go deer hunting on my dad's land. If you ever want to come up you can come boar hunting up there. I only got 2 deer tags and I'm using them both.:flipoff2: I have a zillion wild boar tags though and the season is year round.

[Budd]

I am actually going up to Nor Cal pretty soon to go deer hunting on my dad's land. If you ever want to come up you can come boar hunting up there. I only got 2 deer tags and I'm using them both.:flipoff2: I have a zillion wild boar tags though and the season is year round.

I want to go boar hunting. me me me me.:D