: K2500 - What axles


wyliek
07-19-2006, 05:25 PM
Sorry dumb question but what axles would a single cab GMC K2500 have?? i couldnt search....thanks

Davethorik
07-19-2006, 06:05 PM
well since we arent mind readers and do not know what year the truck is...its either a dana 44, 10 bolt, or ifs.

aaronr10
07-19-2006, 06:17 PM
Well, if the door badge says K2500 and it's a pickup it is an IFS front and 14 bolt simifloat rear 8 lug.

wyliek
07-20-2006, 01:18 PM
woops, my bad. its an 85 so i assume dana 44 and 14bolt sf

dannnthemann
07-20-2006, 05:15 PM
woops, my bad. its an 85 so i assume dana 44 and 14bolt sf

Nope, '85 should be a 10 bolt front. But it is possible to have a 44 front, because GM did some switching back and forth in the 80's.

The only way to tell for sure is to look at it and check. Do a google search on 10 blot axle id or Axle ID.

More than likely its a 10 bolt

cuc-v
07-20-2006, 05:44 PM
in theory they should be the same axles as on ur 3/4 ton cuc-v witch are
10 bolts

trkklr77
07-20-2006, 06:44 PM
no such thing as a 3/4t cucv.




10bolt front 14b ff/sf rear[90% that its a ff]

HickTrucksRus
07-20-2006, 10:00 PM
im ganna go with, i fucked your mother last night in the front, and exposed your preacher fathers affair with a 8 year old boy today in the back

wyliek
07-21-2006, 10:39 AM
oh well i saw they were 8 lug and was hoping they would be a D60 but quickly realized it wasnt. i didnt know that you could have an 8 lug 10 bolt...
what gears do you think they have??

Tim84K10
07-21-2006, 10:43 AM
no such thing as a 3/4t cucv.




10bolt front 14b ff/sf rear[90% that its a ff]

An M1009 is called a 3/4 ton truck by the Army. It has 6 lug 10 bolts but they call it 3/4 ton.

An '85 K20 will have a 10 bolt front and a 14 bolt semi floater rear. After the introduction of the semi floater, there are no full floating rears in 3/4 tons with the exception of 2wd, big block powered trucks.

Even with half tuned fuel injection, my truck runs better now than it ever did with a carburator. Don't sell yourself short--trust me, it's worth it.

trkklr77
07-21-2006, 10:58 AM
m1009 are blazers. blazers are 1/2t. they call it a 3/4t for what ever reason but it is NOT!!! it is a 10b express and 10b are not 3/4t.

Tim84K10
07-21-2006, 11:21 AM
m1009 are blazers. blazers are 1/2t. they call it a 3/4t for what ever reason but it is NOT!!! it is a 10b express and 10b are not 3/4t.

According to the Army, you are wrong. I understand that an M1009 is no different than a civilian blazer of the current year, besides having a 24 volt electrical system and a TH400 transmission, but according to the Army, it is a 3/4 ton truck.

Your statement was that there is no such thing as a 3/4 ton CUCV, which is false. There are 3/4 ton, and 1 1/4 ton CUCVs, which just so happen to be similar to civilian 1/2 and 1 ton vehicles.

trkklr77
07-21-2006, 11:42 AM
you right that i said "no such thing as a 3/4t cucv" the context is what is is wrong. what i should have said was "no such thing as a 3/4t cucv TRUCK" as per the vehicle in question.


if some one came up to you and said "check out my 3/4t truck" so you walk over and notice that it has 6lug[you laugh a little to your self] then you repley, "what axles ya got?". he responds with "10b! front and rear" and then has a puzzeld look on his face, when you stop luaghing out loud then you can tell him the truth.

edit:
also how pissed would you be if you bought 3/4t axles over the pbb and what showed up was a set of 10b's and seller sights this thread and the mil spec as 3/4t.

Tim84K10
07-21-2006, 11:57 AM
also how pissed would you be if you bought 3/4t axles over the pbb and what showed up was a set of 10b's and seller sights this thread and the mil spec as 3/4t.

It's your responsibility to varify that what you are buying from anyone is worth the money.

"3/4 ton" isn't the proper way to refer to axles anyway. I'm not buying any axles unless I know exactly what they are, what the gears are, etc.

cuc-v
07-21-2006, 12:19 PM
you right that i said "no such thing as a 3/4t cucv" the context is what is is wrong. what i should have said was "no such thing as a 3/4t cucv TRUCK" as per the vehicle in question.


if some one came up to you and said "check out my 3/4t truck" so you walk over and notice that it has 6lug[you laugh a little to your self] then you repley, "what axles ya got?". he responds with "10b! front and rear" and then has a puzzeld look on his face, when you stop luaghing out loud then you can tell him the truth.

edit:
also how pissed would you be if you bought 3/4t axles over the pbb and what showed up was a set of 10b's and seller sights this thread and the mil spec as 3/4t.


i think u guys misunderstood wat truck i was comparing it to...the guy askin the question has a m1009 which is a military blazer!


another thing that makes the cucv blazer a 3/4ton is the gov. locker in the rear!

Tim84K10
07-21-2006, 12:34 PM
another thing that makes the cucv blazer a 3/4ton is the gov. locker in the rear!

That's nothing special. The 2.73 geared 10 bolt the came in my truck from the factory had the same gov-bomb.

trkklr77
07-21-2006, 12:52 PM
gov bomb does not make it 3/4t, GOD DAMMIT 10b ARE NOT 3/4T.


but th evehicle you are comparing it to IS NOT A 3/4T, that is whole point of my last five posts, you said that they should be the same as your m1009, THEY ARE NOT!!

i here by apply this statement to you.
"if some one came up to you and said "check out my 3/4t truck" so you walk over and notice that it has 6lug[you laugh a little to your self] then you repley, "what axles ya got?". he responds with "10b! front and rear" and then has a puzzeld look on his face, when you stop luaghing out loud then you can tell him the truth."


i feel like eric cartman, "NO KITTY THATS A BAD KITTY 10b ARE NOT 3/4t KITTY"


edit: the one and only thing that make the m1009 blazer even come close to 3/4t is the th400 tranny, afaik no gov blazer had one factory.

Tim84K10
07-22-2006, 12:49 AM
edit: the one and only thing that make the m1009 blazer even come close to 3/4t is the th400 tranny, afaik no gov blazer had one factory.

Not sure what that sentence is meaning to say, but all M1009s have TH400 transmissions.

wyliek
07-22-2006, 10:06 AM
the military refers to the m1009 (blazer) as 3/4 and the m1008 (pick-up) as 1 1/4 is b/c the military has a different system of weight capacity

Tim84K10
07-22-2006, 10:33 AM
the military refers to the m1009 (blazer) as 3/4 and the m1008 (pick-up) as 1 1/4 is b/c the military has a different system of weight capacity

In the modern day, the terms 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton really have no meaning anyway.

trkklr77
07-22-2006, 10:57 AM
Not sure what that sentence is meaning to say, but all M1009s have TH400 transmissions.


that was a typo, it should have read " no NON gov blazer.........." as in regular civilian production.

trkklr77
07-22-2006, 10:58 AM
the military refers to the m1009 (blazer) as 3/4 and the m1008 (pick-up) as 1 1/4 is b/c the military has a different system of weight capacity


if you call a duck a moose, its still a duck.

mj
07-22-2006, 11:12 AM
muck?
doose?

cuc-v
07-22-2006, 11:50 AM
muck?
doose?

mj has a point...even tho they appear to be 1/2tons their r still many differences!

GMCTruxrule
07-23-2006, 05:28 AM
GOD DAMMIT 10b ARE NOT 3/4T.




Are you talking front or rear 10 bolt? I am confused now, between all the army vs. 100andaquarterton trucks arguments.
If it is a 10 bolt rear, it would not be a 3/4 ton.
if it is a 10 bolt 8 lug front, it would be a 3/4 ton axle, would it not?

b454rat
07-23-2006, 06:14 AM
80s 3/4 ton 4wd will have a 10 bolt front, slim chance of Dana 44. NO 60 inless swapped in. Rear will be the 14 semi float, possibly a FF, see if there any hubs sticking out. Gears could be anything from 3.23s to 4.10s. Think those are the only gears offered on those axles, between those ranges. The military is retarded, they have their own language on shit, makes no freaking sense.

Cory
07-23-2006, 09:09 AM
What a bunch of fucking morons. The answer is simple to the M1009 blazer and why its labled 3/4 ton from the military even though its a true 1/2 ton. It has nothing to do with the axles. I'm not even gonna waste my time as its more fun to watch you guys hash it out with each other and I like reading the stupid replies.

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 10:00 AM
but the blazer that they are stuck on is 6 lug so it is not a fawking 3/4t, they only difference for a 3/4t -1/2t 10b front is that it has a different lug hub, rotor, baking plate, there is NOTHING STRONGER ON A 6LUG THAN AN 8LUG FRONT AXLE. the d44 would use a bigger stonger spindle but it is the same as the 10b one.

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:01 AM
This is funnier than shit! As I quoted in my post: the M1009 rating of a 3/4 ton has NOTHING to do with the axles. Let me drop you dummies a hint: GVWR.

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 10:14 AM
Axels Have A Wieght Rating Before The Break The Tube Dipshit, Therefore Heavier Axles Are Used In Heavier Grvw Trucks. Just Because Your Dumb Ass Nieghbor Put 3000lbs In The Back Of His Blazer Doesnt Mean It 1.5t Blazer.

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:22 AM
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Exactly what I meant by reading all the replies here. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Not quite on the axles and GVWR. You're close but not completely thorough. Another hint: springs. :flipoff2:

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 10:27 AM
once again if you put one ton sprigns and load a truck over the weight rating of the axle YOU ARE GOING TO BREAK THE AXLE. this is not fawkin rocket science, if 10b rears were 3/4t then why didnt chevy save them selfs the effort and cost and use them under all the 3/4t trucks not the 14b.

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:35 AM
This is too funny reading your replies trying to explain this. If you want, you can go straight to Uncle Sam and bitch at him for all I care. Since you still don't get it, click on this link and feel free to send me an apology any time. :flipoff2:
http://www.roscommonequipmentcenter.com/news_notes/nn12.pdf#search='m1009%203%2F4%20ton%20blazer'

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:38 AM
Here's another link: http://www.primeportal.net/transports/don_pics/m1009_walk.htm

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:39 AM
Another: http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/M1009.shtml

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 10:40 AM
1rst one is not an active link troll.










you might as well call it a 2.5t because it weighs that much. lesson in life, if it has 2 10b axles, its a half ton!

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:40 AM
Yet, another: http://www.armytrucks.com/page2.html

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:40 AM
Because its in PDF format, asshat.

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:42 AM
And....more importantly, Uncle Sam lists these 1/2 ton blazers on the auction sites as 3/4 ton, fuck face!
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=522676

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:43 AM
Here's another good learning tip for you, shithead!
http://www.4wheelpartsadventures.com/archive/sept_2003/sept03_dept08_01.asp

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:46 AM
Scroll down, troll, to read more insightful tips:
http://www.rocketcityrockcrawlers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1478&PN=1

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:47 AM
My, what a pretty 3/4 ton 1/2 ton!
http://www.deltaforce.net/cucv/

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 10:48 AM
i am not even going to bother clicking the the links, not matter how many time you say it and wish it was true, 2 10bs are not 3/4t.

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:51 AM
Want me to go on? I can find more links all day for you if you want. Or are you ready to apologize to me and go home with your tail between your legs?

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:52 AM
i am not even going to bother clicking the the links, not matter how many time you say it and wish it was true, 2 10bs are not 3/4t.
What a PUSSY! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :flipoff2:

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 10:56 AM
no, i just done with your troll-ed ness ignorance to common fwakin sence.


so out of shear irritaition i followed you links and low and behold, every one of them has 2 10b, and we all know what that means!

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:57 AM
You have been pwned!!!!!!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :laughing:

Cory
07-23-2006, 10:59 AM
no, i just done with your troll-ed ness ignorance to common fwakin sence.
Hey, I just tell it like it is. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Uncle Sam.

BTW...












































































































pwned, ASSHAT!!! :smokin: :laughing: :flipoff2:

Camok5
07-23-2006, 11:00 AM
Cory how many dicks do you plan on sucking today? You really do get around on this site. If you keep up this pace there wont be any Pirate dick left for you to suck.:flipoff2:

Cory
07-23-2006, 11:02 AM
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Funnay! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 11:06 AM
wow

yep

you got me

are you done

is this the best you got

do you feel like a man now

are you high fiving yourself

hey ive got a 1 ton axle you have for free! but its six lug.

Beater_K20
07-23-2006, 11:07 AM
wow, what a waste of space...

while Civilian K5s are 1/2 tons, M1009s are 3/4 ton. its all in the way they're rated, and there's nothing we can do about it.

that being said, 2 10 bolts = GARBAGE.

Cory
07-23-2006, 11:22 AM
wow

yep

you got me

are you done

is this the best you got

do you feel like a man now

are you high fiving yourself

hey ive got a 1 ton axle you have for free! but its six lug.
Is that the best comeback you can come up with? :shaking: :laughing:

Just like Roxi has her own smilie, you need one of you fucking a goat. :flipoff2:

Cory
07-23-2006, 11:38 AM
To trkklr77: with your "expertise knowledge" on tonnage ratings, would you care to elaborate on the civillian 1 ton K30 to the Uncle Sam 1.25 (5/4) ton military version M1008? Are you gonna argue the 1 ton is not a 5/4? Are you gonna duke it out with the government of the US of A? :shaking: :laughing: Waiting to hear your thoughts and comments on the 1 ton/1.25 ton version now. :flipoff2:

Fast68
07-23-2006, 11:51 AM
most- by far- in 81-up, were 10 front and 14 SF rear

if you look on the backside of the sunvisor in the k-20s these years you will see instructions on operating the 4x4, and it mentions the military models, even on my 85 k20


alot of these pickups were contact trucks, to jumpstart the other vehicles around the base and so forth, they carried alot of batteries in the bed, and big cables


very common

been there seen it done it


http://www.mil-plus.com/public/photo/00000752.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-p-u-m1008-4x4-long-bed_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80765QQitemZ4628065 713

http://www.lrmfa.org/equip/equip19.htm

http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=538056&convertTo=USD

http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=563059

http://www.us-car-world.de/lexikon.htm

http://www.tactical-link.com/set2001.htm


good luck

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 11:57 AM
To trkklr77: with your "expertise knowledge" on tonnage ratings, would you care to elaborate on the civillian 1 ton K30 to the Uncle Sam 1.25 (5/4) ton military version M1008? Are you gonna argue the 1 ton is not a 5/4? Are you gonna duke it out with the government of the US of A? :shaking: :laughing: Waiting to hear your thoughts and comments on the 1 ton/1.25 ton version now. :flipoff2:


same difference dipshit.

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 12:03 PM
i knew this would come in handy some day.

cuc-v
07-23-2006, 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory
To trkklr77: with your "expertise knowledge" on tonnage ratings, would you care to elaborate on the civillian 1 ton K30 to the Uncle Sam 1.25 (5/4) ton military version M1008? Are you gonna argue the 1 ton is not a 5/4? Are you gonna duke it out with the government of the US of A? Waiting to hear your thoughts and comments on the 1 ton/1.25 ton version now.


same difference dipshit.

since u no so much then tell me y the m1028, m1028 a1, m1035 are all alot heavier duty than the m1008 but the are in the same class(5/4ton)?

Beater_K20
07-23-2006, 03:08 PM
what is "heavier duty" about them? :confused:

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 04:24 PM
same axles, same frames, same cabs, same motors, same trannys, different tcases, same gears, same bumpers, one has a pto from the 205, different bed/cabbins.


from one of the links.



Here are the specs for all the CUCV models. I'm pretty sure my friend's is the M1008 model. I know for sure it is a 1¼ ton model and that it is not the M1009, which is the 3/4 ton Blazer version nor is it the 1¼ ton M1010 ambulance or M1028A1 w/PTO.

CUCV - Commercial Utility Cargo Vehicle
Configurations:
M1008: Tactical Cargo, 1¼ ton
M1008A1: Tactical Cargo, 1¼ ton
M1009: Tactical Utility, ¾ ton
M1010: Tactical Ambulance, 1¼ ton
M1028: Tactical Shelter Carrier, 1¼ ton
M1028A1: Tactical Shelter Carrier w/ PTO, 1¼ ton
M1031: Tactical Chassis, 1¼ ton

Length:
M1008/A1, M1028/A1: 220.7 inches
M1009: 191.8 inches
M1010: 227.7 inches
M1031: 212.9 inches
Width:
M1009: 79.6 inches
All Other Models: 81.2 inches
Weight (curb):
M1009/M1031: 5200 lbs
M1008/A1, M1028/A1: 5900 lbs
M1010: 7400 lbs
Height:
M1009, M1008/A1, M1031: 76 inches ave.
M1010: 101.6 inches
M1028/A1: 107.1 inches
Engine: V8, 6.2L (379ci) displacement, fuel injected diesel, liquid cooled, compression ignition, nope, no turbo (I will slap on a Banks™)
Horsepower: 135 at 3,600 RPM
Transmission:TH400, 3 speed, automatic
Transfer case: NP208, 2 speed, locking, chain driven, all models except M1028A1 and M1031 which have the NP205 gear-driven t-case
Axles: All models have Corp. 14-bolt rear and Dana 60 front except M1009 which has Corp. 10-bolts front and rear
Differentials: All models have the 14-bolt Detroit No-Spin except the M1009 which has the 10-bolt Gov-Loc. The fronts on all models are open except for a rare lot that came out with the Dana 60 TracLoc. All models came with 4.56 gear rations except the M1009 that had 3.08 gears.
Electrical system: 12/24 volt, negative ground, 100 amps (200 amps M1010 ambulance)
Heating/Cooling: hot-water heat all models, AC only in M1010 ambulance
Brakes: Hydraulic, front discs, rear drums
Fuel type: Diesel
Fuel capacity: M1009: 27 gal
All The Rest: 20 gal

Cory
07-23-2006, 06:18 PM
i knew this would come in handy some day.
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Evidently you do have a sense of humor!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

GMCTruxrule
07-23-2006, 06:18 PM
Trkkler77, Feel free to ignore Cory anytime. He obviously doesn't want to believe that Uncle Sam isn't the ultimate and final authority on vehicle weight ratings.

P.S. Hey Cory, just a little hint for you: When you and someone else are e-yelling and e-name calling, call the other guy a different name than the one he just called you. It looks a little more original.:flipoff2:

Cory
07-23-2006, 06:19 PM
Trkkler77, Feel free to ignore Cory anytime. He obviously doesn't want to believe that Uncle Sam isn't the ultimate and final authority on vehicle weight ratings.

P.S. Hey Cory, just a little hint for you: When you and someone else are e-yelling and e-name calling, call the other guy a different name than the one he just called you. It looks a little more original.:flipoff2:
Thanks for the tip, God. :flipoff2:

Cory
07-23-2006, 06:21 PM
since u no so much then tell me y the m1028, m1028 a1, m1035 are all alot heavier duty than the m1008 but the are in the same class(5/4ton)?
Why waste my time with someone who's username title has been spelled wrong? Get it right: cucv. :shaking:
If you really wanna know, all those trucks are the same thing just different classes for their intended use and purpose. :shaking:

Cory
07-23-2006, 06:22 PM
same axles, same frames, same cabs, same motors, same trannys, different tcases, same gears, same bumpers, one has a pto from the 205, different bed/cabbins.


from one of the links.



Here are the specs for all the CUCV models. I'm pretty sure my friend's is the M1008 model. I know for sure it is a 1¼ ton model and that it is not the M1009, which is the 3/4 ton Blazer version nor is it the 1¼ ton M1010 ambulance or M1028A1 w/PTO.

CUCV - Commercial Utility Cargo Vehicle
Configurations:
M1008: Tactical Cargo, 1¼ ton
M1008A1: Tactical Cargo, 1¼ ton
M1009: Tactical Utility, ¾ ton
M1010: Tactical Ambulance, 1¼ ton
M1028: Tactical Shelter Carrier, 1¼ ton
M1028A1: Tactical Shelter Carrier w/ PTO, 1¼ ton
M1031: Tactical Chassis, 1¼ ton

Length:
M1008/A1, M1028/A1: 220.7 inches
M1009: 191.8 inches
M1010: 227.7 inches
M1031: 212.9 inches
Width:
M1009: 79.6 inches
All Other Models: 81.2 inches
Weight (curb):
M1009/M1031: 5200 lbs
M1008/A1, M1028/A1: 5900 lbs
M1010: 7400 lbs
Height:
M1009, M1008/A1, M1031: 76 inches ave.
M1010: 101.6 inches
M1028/A1: 107.1 inches
Engine: V8, 6.2L (379ci) displacement, fuel injected diesel, liquid cooled, compression ignition, nope, no turbo (I will slap on a Banks™)
Horsepower: 135 at 3,600 RPM
Transmission:TH400, 3 speed, automatic
Transfer case: NP208, 2 speed, locking, chain driven, all models except M1028A1 and M1031 which have the NP205 gear-driven t-case
Axles: All models have Corp. 14-bolt rear and Dana 60 front except M1009 which has Corp. 10-bolts front and rear
Differentials: All models have the 14-bolt Detroit No-Spin except the M1009 which has the 10-bolt Gov-Loc. The fronts on all models are open except for a rare lot that came out with the Dana 60 TracLoc. All models came with 4.56 gear rations except the M1009 that had 3.08 gears.
Electrical system: 12/24 volt, negative ground, 100 amps (200 amps M1010 ambulance)
Heating/Cooling: hot-water heat all models, AC only in M1010 ambulance
Brakes: Hydraulic, front discs, rear drums
Fuel type: Diesel
Fuel capacity: M1009: 27 gal
All The Rest: 20 gal
Thought you said you weren't gonna take the time to read all those links I posted. :rolleyes: Now we can see you did as you tried to do your "homework", too. :flipoff2: :laughing:

GMCTruxrule
07-23-2006, 06:25 PM
Thanks for the tip, God. :flipoff2:


Anytime, just here to help:flipoff2:

trkklr77
07-23-2006, 06:34 PM
i also said in the same post that i read them out of shear irritaion.




but either way :flipoff2:

Cory
07-23-2006, 06:48 PM
i also said in the same post that i read them out of shear irritaion.




but either way :flipoff2:
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Thanks for the good laughs today. It was fun. Meanwhile, have fun without me as I'm going back to CK5. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :flipoff2: