I finally got my income tax return and it's not enough but I can work with it.
Doing some research on steering upgrades for a TJ I got sidetracked on a full spool for my rear d44. I had already planned on a spool but ran into some information regarding steering(sic) problems with spools in coil sprung TJs.
There is a claim that a spool causes excessive body roll and quirky handeling while cornering. As with the majority of people claiming vast knowledge in the ins and outs of everything under the sun the claims were not from personal experience. He said, they said, I heard ect ect.....
The Jeep is gong to be downgraded from its DD status (Hello Dodge Neon or similar) so I am not concerned with excessive tire wear or noise at the local mall.
Does anybody on the POR run a spool in their TJ and if so have you noticed any odd handling quirks?
It seems driving around town with an ARB or OX engaged would yield the same characteristics if anybody cares to experiment for me.

lightfoot

P.S. My wife said to go ahead and buy the Atlas:D

for what it matters....a buddy of mine has a 97 TJ with ford 9" rear and a full spool. every time he comes over to the house i have him go to the circle and turn around so i can see it lift up on its side.....when you turn, the inside of the body will raise several inches. I dont know if the fact that he doesnt have his sway bars connected has anything to do with it or not but i am sure it doesnt help any


there is gonna be querky handling while going through a corner in any vehicle with a spool. My CJ jerks back and forth a tiny bit. it is not a scary jerk but you can fell it.

i would recomend a spool if it is not a daily driver....you know that it is always locked in

I just got my TJ back from having a Detroit put in the back, and it is pretty funky. If you try to turn left up a hill, it doesn't want to move, it just jacks the left front into the air, in some 3 wheel ghetto motion :rasta:

It used to pop wheelies when pulling out hard on left turns, but now it does it even with very light throttle.. I'm used to it already, but the only thing I worry about is trying to pull out, popping a wheelie, and having some cop pull me over for it :eek:... Then I'd get some retarded lecture about how I'm endangering the safety of everyone else on the road, and a fix it ticket... Only thing is, unless I get long arms, I can't fix it :eek: :D

While I dont have a TJ, I do have a spool in my rear 44 on my YJ. I believe it drives better on the road than my detroit. There is none of the random lock-up in a corner so you dont get that occasional jerk.
It chirps the tires in a tight turn but nothing bad unless I am at full lock.
The only downside to it IMO is the increased tire wear but this is beacause it is my DD.

I also have a spooled 9" under my SOA YJ and if I give it heavy throttle in a corner it does pick up the front corner pretty good but not the wheelies that TJ's are known for. I don't have the sway bars or any track bars so I'm sure that doesn't help it. Just drive is conservatively on the road and you should be ok. :D

spools are fun :D very predictable too! The do all the interesting stuff listed...but if you want to have unpredictable fun get a detroit. I used to do donuts after I got my 5.0 in and had a detroit in the rear...well it would lock and unlock and damn near rolled me a few times.....teh spool is safer as far as that stuff goes. I wouldn't worry about the coil thing...doesn't make much difference it really has more to do w/ soft springs and rebound rate.

Spools are better on the highway because you can get on and off the gas w/ out worrying about 60mph lane changes detroits are associated w/. Tight mountain roads are safer too :D You'll love it until the first set of tires is gone :D

and yes I know your question was coils and spool but comparos are fun to talk about :D

i wouldn't run a spool unless you got a long arm kit. My friend has arbs front and rear and used to just have a 4" with the rear locked if you turned in a circle it would feel like it was going to flip over. The more you turned the more it would lean it would actually bind up and lift a tire sitting still, and this was in the drive through at mcdonalds. I would get a long arms kit anyway but wouldn't spool it until i did.

A friend of mine lincoln locked his 35 in his TJ. It was fine until he disconnected his rear swaybar!!!! :eek: I dont recomend disconnecting the rear bar, but locked with it attached was fine!

Originally posted by Krylon..
A friend of mine lincoln locked his 35 in his TJ. It was fine until he disconnected his rear swaybar!!!! :eek: I dont recomend disconnecting the rear bar, but locked with it attached was fine!

Maybe that explains it.. When I put the lift on, I just left that rear fawker off...It's actually pretty frustrating, because if I don't pull out really slowly, I'm listing at a 45 degree angle on left turns. Fawked up :eek:...
I was thinking about putting it back on anyways, because my rear axle droops so much, that the tire folds under the Jeep, and I have some obscene rear steer. It's a short arm thang :rasta:

welby rubicon arms are known to do this..... my tire does not come off the ground (unless i want it too) but yes with a spool it will preload the springs before it turns.... its no big deal and it does drive mice once moving.... the only quirk i see with a spool is turning from a stop and its no biggie.... yes if you put sway bars on it would not do this as much.....

Originally posted by Welby


Maybe that explains it.. When I put the lift on, I just left that rear fawker off...It's actually pretty frustrating, because if I don't pull out really slowly, I'm listing at a 45 degree angle on left turns. Fawked up :eek:...
I was thinking about putting it back on anyways, because my rear axle droops so much, that the tire folds under the Jeep, and I have some obscene rear steer. It's a short arm thang :rasta:

Ya, we welded up his diff and he ran it like that for about a week or so. Then he got the "great" idea to take his end links off the rear swaybar. Man, that thing makes a big difference!!! It is scary to drive now!

Originally posted by badassjeepguy
welby rubicon arms are known to do this..... my tire does not come off the ground (unless i want it too) but yes with a spool it will preload the springs before it turns.... its no big deal and it does drive mice once moving.... the only quirk i see with a spool is turning from a stop and its no biggie.... yes if you put sway bars on it would not do this as much.....

Hey Rob, You running Tera lower arms and Tera 4" coils with some spring spacers? What size spacers? And with the 4" coils and spacers, is that enough room for a set of 35's?

tera upper and lower with the tera 4 1/2 springs and 1.25 spacers should be plenty for 35's of course do the 1 inch body and tuck that t case up..... you can fit 36's that way.... i just pm'd ya