For the past 8 months or so the dirty hippy has been building his rover in my Garage. He's too much of a pussy to post anything here about it so I thought I would do it for him! Fawkin Pussy. Anyway the Goal of this project was to be able to fit a true 40" tire using pure landrover parts. :D

So lets get to the build-up.

Step 1: meet strange dude in a band on Pirate4x4.com, go see said band and related to strange dude your plans for your disco, be sure to include how many hot chicks said plans will net you.

Step 2: when strange dude says yeah you can use my garage for the swap, don't hesitate to accept.

Step 3: about a year after said offer is accepted announce for the 57th time that you are indeed fully ready to start. Bring Rover to the garage at the beginning of December. Announce that you will be finished by the end of winter break. Dismiss notion from me that you'll be lucky to finished by the end of July.

Step 4: disassemble

Step 5: Place axles in their approximate location, dream about the hot chicks the build up will bring.
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05084.JPG

Step6: Cutoff wheel and sawzall time...
The Dirty Hippy with the cutoff wheel:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05107.JPG

The Dirty Hippy with the Sawzall:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05121.JPG

Next we built the shock hoops, and placed the fuel cell.
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05210.JPG

the fuel cell placement isn't perfect eventually (at the moment) the plan is to place a "floor" above it so that it is isolated outside of the passenger space, but untill then with the huge wheel well cutouts and at minimum keeping the front windows cracked we aren't too worried about fuel vapor buildup.

and yes the rear seats still fit with the shock hoops:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05212.JPG

Here's Jon being extremely safe with the welder. :laughing:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05223.JPG

That's a little better there Jon
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05227.JPG

Working on shock mounting tab placement:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05240.JPG

Tack welding them on:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05248.JPG

Got the Front done too:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05254.JPG

Rear Links mocked up:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05260.JPG

http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05261.JPG
Anit-Squat is around 115-120% IIRC...

Well I'll be damned it did bring in at least one hot chick :laughing:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05280.JPG

Front Suspension in Mock-up:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05319.JPG

Rear Shock Tower Brace:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05295.JPG

Front Shock Tower Brace:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05315.JPG

The reserviors are Just there temporialy to keep them out of the way.

Front Suspension almost fully mocked up:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05321.JPG

Anti-dive is around 125% I believe

High Steer Arm:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05330.JPG

USA 6X6 Hummvee Wheel centers, amazingly enough they came on time and were correct. But don't worry Daniel still messed up the order, Jon at the same time ordered O-rings He got o-rings for the 8 bolt wheels not his 12 bolts...
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05347.JPG

Rear coil-overs are on, suspension fully welded additional truss added.
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05422.JPG

Tires on on the wheels, and the wheels are painted. behind this wheel you can see the vehicle I first rolled when I was about 14. You guys think you're hardcore? I didn't even have a roll cage. :flipoff2:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05425.JPG

Front suspension is fully welded and front axle truss is added for hydro assist.
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05427.JPG

Teh gheyness, basically as it sits now:
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05432.JPG

Jon and some Dude I'll call Sue ('cause I forgot his name) giving the Pirate Salute. Sue is holding the Infamous Latino Heat!
http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/s015.JPG

Any Questions?

You mentioned ram-assist, but the pics show a 4-link front. Any concerns about binding?

Also, tell John that if he keeps his roof he's a puss.:p

""Anyway the Goal of this project was to be able to fit a true 40" tire using pure landrover parts"

So exactly what Rover comes with those axles :flipoff2:

What engine/tranny/xfer is he going to use?

8 months, your lucky...we've been hearing about this buildup for 4 years.

8 months, your lucky...we've been hearing about this buildup for 4 years.

If the place where the shop is wasn't being sold, it would take longer than one of my projects!

""Anyway the Goal of this project was to be able to fit a true 40" tire using pure landrover parts"

So exactly what Rover comes with those axles :flipoff2:

What engine/tranny/xfer is he going to use?


They're Salisbury Axles.

A Salisbury 70 rear out of a ford e-350 van and a Salisbury 60 front out of some Dodge. :flipoff2:

Stock Rover parts right now. He has a couple of x-fer cases he's planning on making a doubler out of.

You mentioned ram-assist, but the pics show a 4-link front. Any concerns about binding?

Also, tell John that if he keeps his roof he's a puss.:p

Nope.

Bump steer I have some freakin huge concerns about though.

They're Salisbury Axles.

A Salisbury 70 rear out of a ford e-350 van and a Salisbury 60 front out of some Dodge. :flipoff2:

:laughing: :laughing: awesome.

SWEET...

1. wheelbase?
2. width?
3. do you think you may need more triangulation on the front suspension?
4. CTMs?
5. Fawker - I want these axles (even though I have my 'mogs in a depot in Lebanon...hopefully their survive the war...:( )

SWEET...

5. Fawker - I want these axles (even though I have my 'mogs in a depot in Lebanon...hopefully their survive the war...:( )

That's a true Rover nut for you! Didja get the truck out of town OK?

SWEET...

1. wheelbase?
2. width?
3. do you think you may need more triangulation on the front suspension?
4. CTMs?
5. Fawker - I want these axles (even though I have my 'mogs in a depot in Lebanon...hopefully their survive the war...:( )

1. 112"
2. full width :flipoff2:
3. Nope I think it needs less and a panhard bar.
4. He's a freakin college kid. :laughing:
5. :grinpimp:

That's a true Rover nut for you! Didja get the truck out of town OK?

not yet, there is a petrol/deisel shortage...so trying to manouvre around that as well!

I'm gonna call ya soon...I'll be set in the US by October latest, with or without the trucks!

[QUOTE=DEnd]1. 112"
QUOTE]

112" seems nice, I was planning 110 when the mogs go in...

Any Questions?

Do you really get dred locks by just not washing your hair?

Do you really get dred locks by just not washing your hair?

Well you can't brush it or comb it either. :flipoff2:

I just saw this thread and laughed my ass off! DEnd is a funny ass fawker :flipoff2: I'll be having my way with his Jeep soon enough :evil:

You mentioned ram-assist, but the pics show a 4-link front. Any concerns about binding?

Also, tell John that if he keeps his roof he's a puss.:p

Binding won't be a problem. DEnd is right though, bump steer may be an issue, we'll find out soon enough.

Don't worry Greg I have big plans for the roof and rear of the truck :grinpimp:

""Anyway the Goal of this project was to be able to fit a true 40" tire using pure landrover parts"

So exactly what Rover comes with those axles :flipoff2:

What engine/tranny/xfer is he going to use?

I'm using the stock motor/transmission/tcase for now. I plan to machine my own crawler box (which will give me 8:1) setup once I have it rolling around. I'll be gearing the axles at 5.38 or 5.86. My friends Disco with the 350 and Stak case is really tempting me though..


My front is adjustable from about 95-115% anti-dive and the rear is adjustable from 75-125% anti-squat.

Do you really get dred locks by just not washing your hair?

sort of not really :flipoff2:

After Much Discussion Jon and I have have decided to help all the people who may want to do something similar. So we took a picture of all the useful parts on a Disco.
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Are there plans for fabbing a rear bumper or something to fill in the rear quarter panels?

Are the enlarged wheel wells going to cause problems for the rear seats?

Nice work, Jon -- nice to see a pic of people on here, instead of faceless folks behind a welding mask. Speaking of which, let's see some more of teh hot chick...

:flipoff2:

I don't know which is more entertaining, watching the progress/comments about the truck or watching the characters working on it.

Nice dreds dude! :smokin:

what transfercases are you going to make a doubler from? I assume it won't be the LT230 as you really can't do it.

-ben

Are there plans for fabbing a rear bumper or something to fill in the rear quarter panels?

Are the enlarged wheel wells going to cause problems for the rear seats?

Nice work, Jon -- nice to see a pic of people on here, instead of faceless folks behind a welding mask. Speaking of which, let's see some more of teh hot chick...

:flipoff2:

I may do some rear tube work as a temporary thing, but I don't have a rear bumper planned because I still have some major body/frame/tube planned. I'm only trying to get it to a mildly wheelable/driveable state until I get the motivation to get back to fabbing... I'm just ready to drive it!

I will be rebuilding the wheel wells, probably bend and TIG some removable aluminum wheel wells, that I can keep and incorporate into the planned tubework.

The rear seats still fit and bolt in to their stock locations, which means I can carry an additional 3 hot chicks at any time. I dunno why you'd wanna see my ugly hippy mug, but I'll see if I can get some more hot chick pics... I may have a new hot chick for pics soon too :D

I don't know which is more entertaining, watching the progress/comments about the truck or watching the characters working on it.

Nice dreds dude! :smokin:

Thanks man!

I only wish I had video of some of the great moments and quotes that have happened working on this thing!

what transfercases are you going to make a doubler from? I assume it won't be the LT230 as you really can't do it.

-ben

DEnd was a little off with this. I'll be adapting a BW planetary reduction unit to the back of the LT230. I'll start on that when I have some more time to spend with the CNC.

I still call shenanigans. Plan on it being in your garage for another 16+ months...

:flipoff2:

Lookin' good there. It has definately come a long way from the 235/85 BFG mts. Lemme know when we are going to tellico.

I still call shenanigans. Plan on it being in your garage for another 16+ months...


Nope, We're selling this house Jon has to be out by this weekend, so we can start cleaning and fixing this place up. :( I hate having to push him out, but I can't afford to buy this house right now and it needs more work than I have $$$.

Nope, We're selling this house Jon has to be out by this weekend, so we can start cleaning and fixing this place up. :( I hate having to push him out, but I can't afford to buy this house right now and it needs more work than I have $$$.

It's ok I still love you.. :p

You missed the fun last night. I knocked on your door but I guess you were busy. :flipoff2:

I still call shenanigans. Plan on it being in your garage for another 16+ months...

:flipoff2:

Lookin' good there. It has definately come a long way from the 235/85 BFG mts. Lemme know when we are going to tellico.


It better not be in the garage that long, I am towing it out tonight

does your new house have a garage?:D

does your new house have a garage?:D


No, but it does have a 20X40 shop. :flipoff2:

It's just being used as hay storage untill we get the barn built/finished which will be april or may of next year. :shaking:

I have some Very sad news to share with y'all. While we were moving the Rover tonight, The Infamous Latino Heat! suffered some very serious injuries. The Infamous Latino Heat! might not make it. Please keep The Infamous Latino Heat! in your prayers and thoughts. :(

So I have been informed my rig is a "hack job" and not at all a "classy" rover that will not be able to exceed 50 mph, will be unable to drive on the highway and will never pass any inspections. Apparently it never passed inspections to begin with and was for sale at one point too...I wish someone would have told me that

Damn, I guess I wasted a lot of time designing a suspension setup with 144 possible setup combinations excluding the link adjustment and coilover valving. :shaking: And I guess my ride height sucks as do 0degree drag link angles.

Oh well what I do know now is:
Wheelbase 112"
Track Width 86"
Total Height to top of stock roof rack 86"
Height to the roof top 83.5"

http://www.cartertuned.com/swap/DSC05460.JPG

So I have been informed my rig is a "hack job" and not at all a "classy" rover

Excellent. You've exceeded all of our expectations.

So I have been informed my rig is a "hack job" and not at all a "classy" rover that will not be able to exceed 50 mph, will be unable to drive on the highway and will never pass any inspections. Apparently it never passed inspections to begin with and was for sale at one point too...I wish someone would have told me that

you forgot that it is no more oem genuine rover :shaking: ...shame on u!

:smokin: Same guys who said you could drive it over 50 mph are the ones who can't figure out how to install a 3" lift kit on a Disco.

I would love to have that Disco of yours. It looks awsome and will perform well I'm sure. And no more wimpy axles either.

I know why those guys over on that other site doen't like it...... You need a 300 TDi. Oh then it would be unstoppable...

Excellent work!!

Damn, looks good!! I need to get moving! I have to come get a first hand look some time.

Thomas

How could you do that to such a classy vehicle? :rolleyes:

Damn.... What a heap!!! Don't you know that the biggest tire you can fit on a Disco is 235/85-16....
I wanna see flexipics.

did you use the lt 230? any offset for the rear?
i am building a 60 right now, i have the spindles cut off and bored out for the 35 spline shafts....a 31 incher and a 39 incher.
in the front i will run a full width 44 until the day comes that i can buy another front 60:D
only have an old dried out set of 35" bfgs for now, but 40s soon to follow.
i also have a 1 ton hydro boost and fj 80 power steering pump to drive it all (it has 2 hp outputs.)
i am excited to follow in your foot steps.

F ing sweet. :smokin: Keep posting the results please.

Looking good. Let us see some trail pics!

So I have been informed my rig is a "hack job" and not at all a "classy" rover

Well what the hell did you expect from dweeb?? So far it looks like all of the work is pretty solid and thought out. You are actually using decent axles instead of crap, which is the number one cause of shit breaking.

I still think its a hack job since there are no differential lockers in it, but such things are in the works I assume.

Normally, I don't go to rover meets anymore but if you come down, I'll actually show up for SAE. Of course the crew is always up for a tellico run.

you forgot that it is no more oem genuine rover :shaking: ...shame on u!

I know! Now I'll have to buy stronger, cheaper drivetrain parts at any parts store anywhere :( :flipoff2:

Hurry and get over here with your Disco, I've been told we have a date with Windrock:flipoff2:

You need a 300 TDi. Oh then it would be unstoppable...

Excellent work!!

That is in my future plans :evil:

Damn.... What a heap!!! Don't you know that the biggest tire you can fit on a Disco is 235/85-16....
I wanna see flexipics.

You and me both. As soon as the rest of my coilover springs show up (like 4 weeks over due now...) I'll flex it out.


did you use the lt 230? any offset for the rear?


Yes I'm using a LT230, with my D70 that has a 4" offset to the passenger side.


I still think its a hack job since there are no differential lockers in it, but such things are in the works I assume.

Normally, I don't go to rover meets anymore but if you come down, I'll actually show up for SAE. Of course the crew is always up for a tellico run.

It's going to be locked up soon enough. I'll also start on a cage in the near future too. I may be taking it to Tellico in October if I get everything sorted out and the cage done by then.

What gearing you planning on using? At the end of last year Chris durham put similar axles and 40" under a TJ. He ended up using 7.17s with excellent results. If you are going all out, might as well go all out in every aspect.

"He ended up using 7.17s with excellent results."

Then it maybe will not make it past 50mph.

The only thing I would do different is make it a cabrio or a pickup. Great Look so far. Hope to one day do that same kind of number on my 96 Disco...

Shit - I run 255/85-16's on mine and have already been called a hack.

Action pics !

progress?

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http://www.cartertuned.com/Disco-Pics/DSC05749.JPG

http://www.cartertuned.com/Disco-Pics/DSC05749.JPG

Dread Pirate Rover?

-Jeff

Looking good. ive been watching the build up over on NC4x4. I had been building a dodge ram, but that got totalled and now i've picked up a 2001 disco. I plan on doing a build up, not as much as yours but definatly a lil more than you might find on dweb. seems those guys are scared of a sawsall.

Just wondering if the front pumpkin lines up w/t-case and if not does it vibe?

With that much lift, why limit yourself to a 300tdi?

Isuzu 3.9 turbo diesels were factory fitment to Aussie landrovers, surely they count as "geniune".:flipoff2:

Just wondering if the front pumpkin lines up w/t-case and if not does it vibe?

If he puts 7,17 gears in it, it won't go fast enough to vibe.:flipoff2:

Hopefully, graduation and a "Real" job won't interfere with this job-oh yeah, stay away from the hot chicks, they'll slow down a project too:grinpimp:

stay away from the hot chicks, they'll slow down a project too:grinpimp:


Actually hot chicks are what got me back to working on it... they all wanna go for a ride in it :smokin:

Apparently my D90 has made it to the other side of the "chicks dig body damage" curve..

So I have been informed my rig is a "hack job" and not at all a "classy" rover that will not be able to exceed 50 mph,]

you'll go straight to hell for such blasphemy.....at 50 MPH...:shaking:

and I've an idea that you'll be in good company. Nice build.

What a hack job:grinpimp:

Maybe the rolled lawnmower will tow it over 50mph

You know the pimp parts cost tripled the value of said "classy" vehicle.

JP

With that much lift, why limit yourself to a 300tdi?

Isuzu 3.9 turbo diesels were factory fitment to Aussie landrovers, surely they count as "geniune".:flipoff2:

I was thinking that too!!!

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/14518594173.jpg

I was thinking that too!!!

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/14518594173.jpg

Is that a subaru air-water intercooler?

I was thinking that too!!!

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/14518594173.jpg

Could you post some more pics?

I was actually in the preliminary stages of research for an Isuzu engine for my D90.

Sooo...hows it coming? When we going to Tellico? I'll bring a disposable cameras and some sammiches. I wanna have a full tummy just in case there is a kodak moment.

:flipoff2:

Could you post some more pics?

I was actually in the preliminary stages of research for an Isuzu engine for my D90.

I have a solidworks model of my 4BD1T with gearbox and RRC engine mounts that may help you.
Pictures near the bottom of this page:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=128585&page=8

But since your steering wheel is on the wrong side, you're going to have issues making the steering box fit.

Is that a subaru air-water intercooler?

No - it is a custom job (not mine) - very nicely done.

More info here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?t=38227&highlight=intercooler