: 5036's upside down


Rebel GP
04-23-2002, 06:57 AM
This might be a killed subject, but anyone run the 5000 series shocks upside down, the search only talked about the 9000's being flipped no probs. I got the new Rancho 5036's

thNX...

Rebel GP
04-23-2002, 11:11 AM
help...

Rat Patrol
04-23-2002, 11:59 AM
I'm gonna say no. I never ran my 5000's upside down, but on my 9012's, 2 of the 4 did not work correctly when inverted. It required a few changes to my mounts, but I have them all mounted "correctly" now. One of the shock didnt have any rebound dampening when they were new, got it replaced, and now a seal is leaking on one. I thought the quality was going to be a little better on these shocks. :( Oh well at least there is a lifetime warranty on defects.
Just my .02

-Jeremy

B.A.R.K
04-23-2002, 12:45 PM
as far as i know, no monotube shock should be mounted upside down, that includes any rancho, but im just a clueless newbie, and so were all of you at one point

The Rockslut
04-23-2002, 12:53 PM
I have ran 5000's up side down and currently run 9000's upside down. Work fine.

Rebel GP
04-23-2002, 01:33 PM
Sweet... -thanks for the reply Rockslut, BTW in the interim I have just finally received this back from Rancho:

"The Rancho RS5000 shock absorber has similar characteristics of the Rancho RS5000 steering stabilizer. Both of these products are designed with a nitrogen filled foam cell to prevent aeration or lag during the shock stroke. As we know, the Rancho RS5000 steering stabilizer is the best performing steering stabilizer on the market and has excellent performance while positioned horizontally. While the RS5000's will function upside down, they will lose a little of their performance."

Rat Patrol
04-23-2002, 02:00 PM
The 2 RS 9000's of mine that wouldnt work correctly acted like this: I took the shock off, keeping it inverted, pulled the shock the rest of the way open, then compress the shock by hand. It had almost no compression dampening, 'till it was over half way compressed. It had a "dead spot", rebound was working correctly, but no compression for about half the shock travel. Then I flip them over, shaft up, cycle the shock. Now it has no dead spot, and even compression and rebound dampening action. I was told by a rep from Rancho, that these can be run upside down. BTW, I ran these inverted for more than a year, before changing the mount position.
This is just my experience with the RS9000's. The other 2 shocks seemed to work correctly in either position.

-Jeremy

The Rockslut
04-23-2002, 02:03 PM
I have read somewhere that if the 9000 is ran upside down it will have 1" of dead space and then regains all of its regular dampening.

That is true for me. Hold the shock upside down and the first 1" of travel is neutral. No big deal for me!

Maybe Rat Patrol had some bad shocks.

ChadLloyd
04-23-2002, 02:17 PM
What the last two posts said is true: RS 9000s or 5000s WILL work upside down, however they WILL develop about an inch of dead space. I've tried this on my own 5000s, and found this to be 100% true. If you ran it upside down for a while, then unbolted one end, you'd find there was no resistence in the initial 1inch of travel (from whatever position it was in at that moment) in either direction. Turn it rightside up, run it a while, and try it again and it has resistence the whole way. They seem to work fine horizontally when used as a steering dampener.

What this means is that they work fine upside down off road during slow crawling and stuff. However, ON ROAD, that initial inch is what prevents a whole bunch of body sway and dampens out a whole lot of wobble and vibration. Therefore, unless it is a strictly off road machine I wouldn't recommend it.

Rat Patrol
04-23-2002, 02:18 PM
Maybe Rat Patrol had some bad shocks. [/B][/QUOTE]

That could be a definate possibility. Like I said, out of the first 4 I got, one had no rebound dampening, and now the seal is leaking on another one.:mad:

If mine had only 1" of dead space that would have not been a problem, but it was more like 4 to 5 inches on the bad shocks.

:idea:... Maybe I'll just send those in and get some shiny new ones.;)

-Jeremy

The Rockslut
04-23-2002, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Rat Patrol
Maybe Rat Patrol had some bad shocks.

That could be a definate possibility. Like I said, out of the first 4 I got, one had no rebound dampening, and now the seal is leaking on another one.:mad:

If mine had only 1" of dead space that would have not been a problem, but it was more like 4 to 5 inches on the bad shocks.

:idea:... Maybe I'll just send those in and get some shiny new ones.;)

-Jeremy [/B][/QUOTE]


Maybe you need chrome shocks :flipoff2:

Rat Patrol
04-23-2002, 02:35 PM
Maybe you need chrome shocks :flipoff2: [/B][/QUOTE]

Chrome shocks would be saaweeet!:rolleyes:
But then I'd have to get chrome wheels to match my shocks!
Doesnt everyone paint there shocks to match their wheels?:D

-Jeremy

H8monday
04-23-2002, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by The Rockslut




Maybe you need chrome shocks :flipoff2:


What? You mean like these!:flipoff2:

H8monday
04-23-2002, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Rat Patrol
Maybe you need chrome shocks :flipoff2:

Chrome shocks would be saaweeet!:rolleyes:
But then I'd have to get chrome wheels to match my shocks!
Doesnt everyone paint there shocks to match their wheels?:D

-Jeremy [/B][/QUOTE]


I dunno is this a close enough match on the shocks and the wheels:flipoff2:

Rat Patrol
04-24-2002, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by H8monday


Chrome shocks would be saaweeet!:rolleyes:
But then I'd have to get chrome wheels to match my shocks!
Doesnt everyone paint there shocks to match their wheels?:D

-Jeremy


I dunno is this a close enough match on the shocks and the wheels:flipoff2: [/B][/QUOTE]

Looks like a nice match to me.:cool:

-Jeremy

Steven_Mc
04-24-2002, 10:28 AM
Just a dumb newbie question, but what's the advantage to mounting shocks up side down? :confused:

Rat Patrol
04-24-2002, 10:34 AM
In my case it was for the shock tubes not to get dented by my spring/u-bolt plates on my waggy front. I ended up moving the mount outward, so now it clears the tube, but barely. It also gets the adjuster knob out of harms way on the 9000's.

-Jeremy

The Rockslut
04-24-2002, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Rat Patrol
In my case it was for the shock tubes not to get dented by my spring/u-bolt plates on my waggy front. I ended up moving the mount outward, so now it clears the tube, but barely. It also gets the adjuster knob out of harms way on the 9000's.

-Jeremy

Yep, what he said.

Drunk Guy
04-24-2002, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Steven_Mc
Just a dumb newbie question, but what's the advantage to mounting shocks up side down? :confused:

A reasion for this on TJ's is that the reat spring perch hits the shock tube and puts a fat dent in it. And also has a good chance that you will break the adjusters off.