: SImple question


mika360
08-05-2006, 06:52 AM
I have an 02 Discovery II and would like to change the spark plug wires. So off I went bought some new wires and was about to change them when I noticed the distributor is practically against the firewall and can only be accessed from what look like the bottom????
What the hell is up with this??
Did some disgruntled GM engineer defect to Rover?
If anybody has any insights as how to change the wires please let me know. I don’t want to have to drop the engine to change spark plug wires!!
Thanks

tripm
08-05-2006, 08:21 AM
A manual would be a good idea, but if you don't want to buy one, you will most likely have better luck with this question here:

http://www.discoweb.org/

For the record, the engine does need to be dropped to change the wires.

mika360
08-05-2006, 08:58 AM
I do have the Land Rover workshop Manual dated 2003 but there is nothing in there for this. I mean I have changed axle shafts, wheel bearings but the location of the distributor!!! What asinine design is this?

PTSchram
08-05-2006, 10:50 AM
For the record, the engine does need to be dropped to change the wires.

What the fuck are you talking about?

While it is difficult, it can be done with no disassembly of the engine. Remove them one at a time and carefully replace them. Expect it to take every bit of at least an hour to change your plug wires.

Go back to your FSM, there IS a diagram of the ignition coils that will be of immense importance to you should you lose track of what goes where.

PT

Serious One
08-05-2006, 10:55 AM
What the fuck are you talking about?

I think he's right. Drop the engine.

shupack
08-05-2006, 11:17 AM
maybe add airshocks while he's at it?

PTSchram
08-05-2006, 11:26 AM
maybe add airshocks while he's at it?

Bah! Just go Diesel and not worry about spark plugs:flipoff2:

tripm
08-05-2006, 11:56 AM
What the fuck are you talking about?



PT

:laughing:

Puffdragon
08-05-2006, 12:07 PM
The plugs are easiest to R&R if you remove the rear axle and the fuel tank. This allows you to lower the rear end onto jack stands, and makes access to the coil pack much better. Another option is to remove your dash completly, and plasma cut a hole in the fire wall to make a nice access cover for the plugs. The reduction of weight due to removing this panel will make removing the rear axle and fuel tank much easier.


Oh my gawd Im bored

Roverhound
08-05-2006, 12:54 PM
The plugs are easiest to R&R if you remove the rear axle and the fuel tank. This allows you to lower the rear end onto jack stands, and makes access to the coil pack much better.Another option is to remove your dash completly, and plasma cut a hole in the fire wall to make a nice access cover for the plugs. The reduction of weight due to removing this panel will make removing the rear axle and fuel tank much easier.


Oh my gawd Im bored
Are you freakin' crazy?!!! The loss of structural integrity from doing this will cause the truck to roll at low highway speeds while searching for your beer that you dropped on the rear floor!
Also removing it will make it not be a Land Rover anymore and also cause spring sag!



It's a bitch but if you have reasonably sized hands and you remove that big cable from its clips that runs right above the coils it can be done.

DEnd
08-05-2006, 01:32 PM
Are you freakin' crazy?!!! The loss of structural integrity from doing this will cause the truck to roll at low highway speeds while searching for your beer that you dropped on the rear floor!
Also removing it will make it not be a Land Rover anymore and also cause spring sag!



It's a bitch but if you have reasonably sized hands and you remove that big cable from its clips that runs right above the coils it can be done.

Not a Land Rover anymore?? Are you smoking Crack? I guess then all those poeple who comp cut their Rover's fenders no longer have Land Rover's either! Please. And the structural Integerity Can easily be gained back by adding ARB bumpers, since they are properly engineered to work on modified vehicles. And as for Sagging springs... Well we're still looking for a cure for that one...

Roverhound
08-05-2006, 02:29 PM
Not a Land Rover anymore?? Are you smoking Crack? I guess then all those poeple who comp cut their Rover's fenders no longer have Land Rover's either! Please. And the structural Integerity Can easily be gained back by adding ARB bumpers, since they are properly engineered to work on modified vehicles. And as for Sagging springs... Well we're still looking for a cure for that one...

Hey, it's not like I know anything about it, I'm just giving my opinion! Jeez!

JSBriggs
08-05-2006, 04:30 PM
Paging DieLucas!

DieLucas! to Rover talk.



-Jeff

Puffdragon
08-05-2006, 05:25 PM
Terribly sorry, I forgot about the structural integrity of the thermal plasma gumbie frame.

Agrover
08-06-2006, 01:09 AM
I have an 02 Discovery II and would like to change the spark plug wires. So off I went bought some new wires and was about to change them when I noticed the distributor is practically against the firewall and can only be accessed from what look like the bottom????
What the hell is up with this??
Did some disgruntled GM engineer defect to Rover?
If anybody has any insights as how to change the wires please let me know. I don’t want to have to drop the engine to change spark plug wires!!
Thanks

What engine do you have in that truck? Rover V8's have the distributor up front.
Bill.

Roverhound
08-06-2006, 06:07 AM
What engine do you have in that truck? Rover V8's have the distributor up front.
Bill.
The Bosch motors have 2 coil packs in the back sandwiched between the intake plenum and the firewall. Nice for water crossings, suck for changing plug wires.

PTSchram
08-06-2006, 06:17 AM
What engine do you have in that truck? Rover V8's have the distributor up front.
Bill.
:shaking: :rolleyes: :laughing:

Er, not since about 1995...

Agrover
08-07-2006, 04:28 AM
:shaking: :rolleyes: :laughing:

Er, not since about 1995...

True, But he did say ''distributor'', and I thought, USA, the land of engine swaps, possibly a small block Chev conversion , with ''distributor'' up against the firewall.
Bill.

ibex
08-07-2006, 06:17 AM
L/R give our techs 1.6 hours to change the lead set. SRO brakedown includes remove and refit inlet manifold, if that helps.

evilfij
08-07-2006, 07:38 AM
"Another option is to remove your dash completly, and plasma cut a hole in the fire wall to make a nice access cover for the plugs. "

Only a series rover owner would actually do this. I have seen numerous "access holes" for things like the clutch M/C, heater, wiring etc.

tripm
08-07-2006, 09:41 AM
Only a series rover owner would actually do this. I have seen numerous "access holes" for things like the clutch M/C, heater, wiring etc.

Hey! That's not a bad idea. I can't get my hands down to the clutch mc and it needs to be bled this week so I can make it to the inspection station.

evilfij
08-07-2006, 09:46 AM
It seems to be all the rage in canada. As series rover bolts are covered in "canadian loctite" (aka rust) they are all fans of the "access panel" method.

Serious One
08-07-2006, 11:20 AM
It seems to be all the rage in canada. As series rover bolts are covered in "canadian loctite" (aka rust) they are all fans of the "access panel" method.

Canadian Loctite! :laughing:

DieLucas!
08-07-2006, 01:11 PM
Paging DieLucas!

DieLucas! to Rover talk.



-Jeff

I thought I already wrote my experiences on this. The spark-plug wires were inferior to stock, failed to ignite the intake charge, and after a couple of revolutions the cylinders filled up with fuel, hydrolocked and blew the heads clean off, top-fuel style, which shot through the aluminum bodywork and killed a girlscout who was sitting with her friends at a street-corner selling thin-mints and those nasty peanut-butter cookies.

I can't honestly understand why 1) somebody would change the spark-plug wires on a 4-year old truck (do you actually think you're going to gain some perceptable performance? Or do you just want your spark plug wires to match your neon light kit?), and 2) ask about how to do it in this forum. How the f*ck did you manage to log onto the internet? I would've been certain you'd still be stuck on the sh!tter after realizing that your pack of toilet paper didn't come with directions.

ProsQtor
08-07-2006, 02:17 PM
How the f*ck did you manage to log onto the internet? I would've been certain you'd still be stuck on the sh!tter after realizing that your pack of toilet paper didn't come with directions.


Ahhh, but he has Wi-Fi inside his house, so he can sit and surf! :laughing:

aloharover
08-07-2006, 02:38 PM
Ahhh, but he has Wi-Fi inside his house, so he can sit and surf! :laughing:

Ahhh so thats what messed up the plug wires.

mika360
08-07-2006, 02:53 PM
Man you guys sure dont much to do!!! This post has gotten way more traction then it should have:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

DieLucas!
08-07-2006, 03:17 PM
The fact any of us even replied is favorable for your case. If you already purchased replacement plug wires, I'd forget about installing them and just use them as fashionable cargo tie-downs, or for bondage (they are comfortable around the wrists and ankles, yet the vulcanized insulation leaves nice welts). Otherwise, if you even knew what to do with 'em, you wouldn't have asked.

What's your address; where do I send the bill?

aloharover
08-07-2006, 03:48 PM
What's your address; where do I send the bill?

We should have OS check his IP. Seeing his location I bet its 9v having fun with us all.

mika360
08-07-2006, 03:55 PM
Dont get me wrong thanks for the info, but it looks like several responses went way off track. This being a daily driver I have no time mess around with it, and reliability is the most important thing. I have my hands full with two other full time trail rigs. This is supposed to get me to work and back with no worries.

m016324
08-07-2006, 05:41 PM
pay someone to do it then

-ben

mika360
08-07-2006, 06:44 PM
For some reason having biolt a a couple of trail rigs I just cant bring myself to pay someone to do something I could probably do. God dam Shiraz, after a couple of bottles I just cant seem type too well.

PTSchram
08-08-2006, 03:48 AM
We should have OS check his IP. Seeing his location I bet its 9v having fun with us all.

Nah, he'd be too quick to post pics of his college chickies for us to make up for the foil underpants!

I often wonder if it's Slade or Pendy bored yanking my chain. Probably Slade, Pendy's computer skills aren't good enough to pull it off:flipoff2: