With kits as low as $250 is there any advantage to making your own kit?

well lets see i have never spent more than 10 bucks to do it. so yes

Originally posted by Cryslr
With kits as low as $250 is there any advantage to making your own kit?

$250 is a lot of money for the fawkin' shite some vendors call a lift kit.

Buying a SPOA kit is non-intuitive and/or stupid. Kind of like buying prefab sand castles for your trip to the beach.

I've done it - I speak from experience. Never again.

r@m

If you got the tools(weldes,grinders and such) build your own. If you have to built it in a driveway with no clue like I did....buy a kit. Make sure, if you buy a kit, that it is complete with everything you need. A set of spring perches is not a SPOA "kit". Research what you want to do and pick the brains of these guys and you'll do fine. I recommend the Trail Tough YJ kit, smooth ride on road and flexy off. Just my .02:D

Ok so I'll just make my own. What are the key parts? I'd be making it for a freind. I have all the machine tools and welders you can shake a stick at.

4 spring pads........2x2x1/4" square tubing 4" long(pass front is bigger)
4 u-bolts(make them a bit longer than stock, or use the stock)
and 1" cold rolled steel for the z-link(steering)
brake lines......drop them down a bit or buy longer lines
drive shafts.....no spacers needed unless you change the wheel base
thats about it.....
:flipoff2:

Tell me more about the (Z-link) steering thing.

ok, you can see pics of it on www.rocky-road.com in the samurai section under steering............ it just simple a drag-link bent into a "Z" shape........use 1" cold rolled steel and weld on the stock ends.......... look on rocky-road and find a picture it will tell you all you need to know........
l8r:
-Mike

Originally posted by Cryslr
Ok so I'll just make my own. What are the key parts? I'd be making it for a freind. I have all the machine tools and welders you can shake a stick at.

Hey Newbie, I really suggest you go somewhere else to do your fact finding.

This isn't the place. Try ORC or Topica.

r@m

Hey Fuck-O,

I suggest you go fuck off. I'm a newbie because I don't run a Sammy?? Just because I don't know jack about Zuk dosen't mean crap, it just means I don't run Zuk's. I'm just try to help a fellow 4x4 friend out and I certainly don't need your crap. Thanks for the suggested site, but I've already been there. This is just one of the many useful boards out there.

Fucking jackass, there everywhere.

Originally posted by Cryslr
Hey Fuck-O,

I suggest you go fuck off. I'm a newbie because I don't run a Sammy?? Just because I don't know jack about Zuk dosen't mean crap, it just means I don't run Zuk's. I'm just try to help a fellow 4x4 friend out and I certainly don't need your crap. Thanks for the suggested site, but I've already been there. This is just one of the many useful boards out there.

Fucking jackass, there everywhere.

Fawking Newbies, there everywhere!

r@m

Don't give all newbies a bad rep, not all of us are outspoken like some...

You can go fuck your self too. Any way I"M a (wheeler):emb: AND how the fuck is standing up for my self giving YOU a bad name. This fucking Root has 80 more postings and than me. You can suck his crank if you what, in my book he is just like everyone else. Grow a set.

You know what, this isnt a place to cuss everyone out,this is a tech board....................if you ask a lame question or someone flames you, dont go off the deep end....................
Im sure that this board was not intended for someone cussing someone else out!

GROW UP!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Cryslr
You can go fuck your self too. Any way I"M a (wheeler):emb: AND how the fuck is standing up for my self giving YOU a bad name. This fucking Root has 80 more postings and than me. You can suck his crank if you what, in my book he is just like everyone else. Grow a set.

Yeah, like anyone's going to want to answer this guys questions. Then again, he is good with the f-word...

Your right, I'm sorry for the rude behavior. I'll try to control myself.

Originally posted by Cryslr
Tell me more about the (Z-link) steering thing.


Check our sire as well, its another way of building a z-link, should give you a good idea what is possible. Sky-manufacturing.com (http://www.sky-manufacturing.com)

how brave everyone is when we arent face to face it just kills me.....yo ho yo ho and a bottle of rum:skull: baby pirate

boys............settle down, just like rudezuki said..."this is a tech site" and he is asking a tech question................and hes not even a newbie.....he just don't know zuki very well and wants to help a zuki guy out..................
e-mail me or PM me if you want to talk more about the SPOA and i'll snap some pics of my SPOA if you want.....
-Mike

Thanks for the help thats all I was looking for.

Originally posted by mud-magnet
4 spring pads........2x2x1/4" square tubing 4" long(pass front is bigger)
4 u-bolts(make them a bit longer than stock, or use the stock)
and 1" cold rolled steel for the z-link(steering)
brake lines......drop them down a bit or buy longer lines
drive shafts.....no spacers needed unless you change the wheel base
thats about it.....
:flipoff2:

Ok...flame me if you must but I have to ask a few questions.

Is this really all thats required for a basic SPOA? The part I'm most curious about are the drivelines, no mods are needed if you don't extend the wheelbase? How about shocks, just reuse stock shocks? New mounts needed?

Appreciate the response. Yes I do check the other boards but I trust most of you guys a whole lot more (other boards seem to like to throw money at a problem, here theres actual thinking going on). My plans are to do a simple SPOA and then after a bit do the YJ conversion.

Originally posted by Mitsuzu
Is this really all thats required for a basic SPOA? The part I'm most curious about are the drivelines, no mods are needed if you don't extend the wheelbase? How about shocks, just reuse stock shocks? New mounts needed?

Drivelines...
If you just do a SPOA conversion with basic perches - no. If you build (or buy) perches that give you added lift - maybe. Twist it up and check your drivelines for excessive travel.

Shocks...
If you re-use the spring plates in the back, they leave the shocks in about the same place in relation to the spring (just moves the thickness of the spring pack). I usually use an aftermarket shock mount up front to make it easy, so yes, new shocks up front would make things easier. Go to the local car parts store and pick up a set of Gabrial 'Red Riders' for about $10 each...

Hope this helps a little.