Simple machine work trade for goods or cash :D I can print out all you friggen vacation pics if ya need or even that roll of the ones you took at that hotel with that chick that one time :laughing:

i have 2 9mm sub-machine gun barrels that I need turned down. Right now they taper from 20ishMM to19ishMM and I need them turned down most of the leingth to 17.5mm or .689" and the muzzle ends threaded to something common in around that size.
They are around 12" long and the machine work does not have to be "perfect perfect"

Who is up for the task ?

Simple machine work trade for goods or cash :D I can print out all you friggen vacation pics if ya need or even that roll of the ones you took at that hotel with that chick that one time :laughing:

i have 2 9mm sub-machine gun barrels that I need turned down. Right now they taper from 20ishMM to19ishMM and I need them turned down most of the leingth to 17.5mm or .689" and the muzzle ends threaded to something common in around that size.
They are around 12" long and the machine work does not have to be "perfect perfect"

Who is up for the task ?
i know a guy that might be able to help.

however, in payment, i don't want my vacation pics, i know what they look like i want vacation pics of aprilraz :evil:

sub machine-gun barrels? :smokin:

i know a guy that might be able to help.

however, in payment, i don't want my vacation pics, i know what they look like i want vacation pics of aprilraz :evil:
:laughing: :laughing:
ya sure ? cause right now she is about to go on "vacation" in the Atlantic for a few weeks.
I would get you some cute photos of her in her Navy dungeries(sp) but she would break my nose if I did :laughing:

:laughing: :laughing:
ya sure ? cause right now she is about to go on "vacation" in the Atlantic for a few weeks.
I would get you some cute photos of her in her Navy dungeries(sp) but she would break my nose if I did :laughing:
so, you're saying i need to talk to someone else about getting the 'good' vacation photos then huh?? J/K don't keel me please :D


hell, i'm not sure which is the better payment?? her in dungeries or her breaking your nose :D

i'll talk to him at work tomorrow and see if he can do it. what type of material is the barrel? stainless??? (i'm a gun newb)

sub machine-gun barrels? :smokin:

I am building a blowback operated 9mm sub-machine gun (semi-auto) using an AK47 reciever/front trunion/bolt carrier/rear trunnion a AK74 bolt, a FAL front sight block, a G3 rear sight and a soumi barrel and drum magazine :evil:

essentialy like this guys' http://www.lichtenbergresearch.com/index.html
actualy I am buying one of his magazine wells so I have less work to do. But mine will be soooooooo much more pimp that those :evil:
http://www.lichtenbergresearch.com/mainpage.jpg

so, you're saying i need to talk to someone else about getting the 'good' vacation photos then huh?? J/K don't keel me please :D


hell, i'm not sure which is the better payment?? her in dungeries or her breaking your nose :D

i'll talk to him at work tomorrow and see if he can do it. what type of material is the barrel? stainless??? (i'm a gun newb)

Its non-stainless. I have no clue the "exact" steel but all the steel used by the original builders was virgin and very high quality control.

Its non-stainless. I have no clue the "exact" steel but all the steel used by the original builders was virgin and very high quality control.
ok. i'll see what i can find out for ya.

mine will be very close to this one :evil:

mine will be very close to this one :evil:



sorry i'm no help. but how many damn guns you got?

What type of 9mm mag is that?

sorry i'm no help. but how many damn guns you got?

enough for the nightly news to use the phrase "An Arsenal of Assualt Weapons" and not "A Cashe of Assualt Weapons" if I ever snap and loose it :evil: :laughing:

What type of 9mm mag is that?

suomi

enough for the nightly news to use the phrase "An Arsenal of Assualt Weapons" and not "A Cashe of Assualt Weapons" if I ever snap and loose it :evil: :laughing:


now i know not to piss you off :D



any old vintage war shit? i have always been interested in that stuff...








btw sorry to fuck up your thread

now i know not to piss you off :D



any old vintage war shit? i have always been interested in that stuff...








btw sorry to fuck up your thread

if an SKS counts as "old war shit" :laughing:

I am keeping an eye out for shit in peoples attics all the time :evil: and it aint derailing the thread its keeping it near the top where more machinist will read it :D

I always try to justify my always growing collection..and I never can. Then I try to organize my "list of shit to buy" into a "list of shit I need" but then I get over it and want every damn gun on my list again.

I'm sure it could be money better spent...

doc how the fawk you going to lath a gun barrel:flipoff2:

Main Entry: lath
Pronunciation: 'lath also 'la[th]
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural laths or lath
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English *læthth-; akin to Old High German latta lath, Welsh llath yard
1 : a thin narrow strip of wood nailed to rafters, joists, or studding as a groundwork for slates, tiles, or plaster
2 : a building material in sheets used as a base for plaster
3 : a quantity of laths
- lath transitive verb

I always try to justify my always growing collection..and I never can. Then I try to organize my "list of shit to buy" into a "list of shit I need" but then I get over it and want every damn gun on my list again.

I'm sure it could be money better spent...

I list it as "shit I can build" and "shit I can't afford" :laughing: makes life easier :flipoff2:

oh and ironpig you know fuckin well ya cant change a fucked up title

I list it as "shit I can build" and "shit I can't afford" :laughing: makes life easier :flipoff2:

oh and ironpig you know fuckin well ya cant change a fucked up title


you can always be a homo:flipoff2:

Hey Gil i guess you forgot when you sold me those tires i told you i worked in a machine shop. if you want to bring it to balt i can hook you up with a guy thats been running lathes over 25 years and he's into guns too. pm me on creapers if your interested.



Garry

cool, this is giving me a few ideas for what to do with my suomi parts... :D

Mantis has a lathe! I don't know how accurate it is, but I know it's fawking heavy! :laughing:

Mantis has a lathe! I don't know how accurate it is, but I know it's fawking heavy! :laughing:


Yep, I have one. I don't know how to run the fawking thing, but a gun barrel sounds like a good first project. :laughing:

I can do it for you as well. Given the small size of the job and relative ease of the job, I could turn it around pretty quick too.

PT

Yep, I have one. I don't know how to run the fawking thing, but a gun barrel sounds like a good first project. :laughing:

Hell yeah! :D I mean, it's not like it's your gun, so go for it! :laughing:

I doubt I can actually do it reasonably true, but I have a quasi-related question. I don't think I have the machining capacity to do what I'm describing here anyway.

Hypothetically, Doc, let's say you bring me a print of a part. You want that part made... not just one, but, say, 10. You don't tell me what it is, just "here's the print, here's the quantity, here's the money".

Let's say it turns out to be a gun part. Specifically, the one part that makes a gun, a "gun", the one part (receiver?) that's serial numbered in production guns, the part that when you buy a Yogoslav or whatever AK (for example) is cut-up, the part that you have to have an FFL to sell.

If ATF doesn't like what you do with them, do they come after me next? Is there any expectation of that I'll take precautions against making stuff that might be used illegally, or is it enough for me to claim that I didn't know what it was, that I just made the parts to print?

Quasi-related in that I'm secondarily curious, even though I don't think I can do what you're after (largely because I don't think I can hold the part you're talking about), if *doing* what you're after in this thread, can get me in trouble.

I doubt I can actually do it reasonably true, but I have a quasi-related question. I don't think I have the machining capacity to do what I'm describing here anyway.

Hypothetically, Doc, let's say you bring me a print of a part. You want that part made... not just one, but, say, 10. You don't tell me what it is, just "here's the print, here's the quantity, here's the money".

Let's say it turns out to be a gun part. Specifically, the one part that makes a gun, a "gun", the one part (receiver?) that's serial numbered in production guns, the part that when you buy a Yogoslav or whatever AK (for example) is cut-up, the part that you have to have an FFL to sell.

If ATF doesn't like what you do with them, do they come after me next? Is there any expectation of that I'll take precautions against making stuff that might be used illegally, or is it enough for me to claim that I didn't know what it was, that I just made the parts to print?

Quasi-related in that I'm secondarily curious, even though I don't think I can do what you're after (largely because I don't think I can hold the part you're talking about), if *doing* what you're after in this thread, can get me in trouble.


Probably less liability than you accept any time you open the hood on a client's truck.

We are liable for everything that ever could possibly happen once we work on someone's truck.

PT

Probably less liability than you accept any time you open the hood on a client's truck.
We are liable for everything that ever could possibly happen once we work on someone's truck.


The prospect of Joe Average suing me, scares me less than the assorted alphabet-soup government organizations involved in gun stuff do. :eek:


I'm really mostly joking about this, but every once in a while, something goes over the top.

Scott:
My dad and I used to run a gunsmithing business out of our basement. You wouldn't believe the folks who would show up with a sketch of something and my dad would escort them from the house very quickly!

There were some folks who refused to believe we only did custom shotgun stocks and chokes when they wanted their semi-autos "Tuned up".

PT

My dad and I used to run a gunsmithing business out of our basement. You wouldn't believe the folks who would show up with a sketch of something and my dad would escort them from the house very quickly!

There were some folks who refused to believe we only did custom shotgun stocks and chokes when they wanted their semi-autos "Tuned up".


Kinda what I was getting at... I'd like to think I'm gun-savvy enough to recognize "hmm, that looks like gun parts", but I know I'm *not* savvy enough to be able to tell possibly-illegal gun parts from run-o-the-mill ones. And related-to-that, is it incumbent upon me to make sure that whatever I'm machining, is legal?

I'm sure Doc wouldn't be asking anybody to do something illegal, but that doesn't stop the assortment of local guys who find out you have a CNC mill and want you to "just make this one little quick part". For better or for worse, I have yet to figure out how to hold firearms-level tolerances on the mill anyway, so it's academic (for now at least).

Firearms-related felony conviction(s) might follow a guy a while, y'know?

There are quite a few aftermarket gun barrel manufacturers. Usually, the receiver of the gun is the registered part. For instance, an AR15 LOWER is the registered part, and you can run any upper on it (barrel, stock, carrying handle/rail system, etc).

The lower part of my pistols are registered, and even though the barrels have the serial number on it (serial is on the lock block), but I can buy a replacement barrel from Jarvis w/o absolutely no paperwork.

But I'm not the goverment so you may want to do some further research :D

I doubt I can actually do it reasonably true, but I have a quasi-related question. I don't think I have the machining capacity to do what I'm describing here anyway.

Hypothetically, Doc, let's say you bring me a print of a part. You want that part made... not just one, but, say, 10. You don't tell me what it is, just "here's the print, here's the quantity, here's the money".

Let's say it turns out to be a gun part. Specifically, the one part that makes a gun, a "gun", the one part (receiver?) that's serial numbered in production guns, the part that when you buy a Yogoslav or whatever AK (for example) is cut-up, the part that you have to have an FFL to sell.

If ATF doesn't like what you do with them, do they come after me next? Is there any expectation of that I'll take precautions against making stuff that might be used illegally, or is it enough for me to claim that I didn't know what it was, that I just made the parts to print?

Quasi-related in that I'm secondarily curious, even though I don't think I can do what you're after (largely because I don't think I can hold the part you're talking about), if *doing* what you're after in this thread, can get me in trouble.

as long as it is not a reciever in greater than 80% finished, a supressor, or full automatic enabling part that you were TOLD that that was the part. then you are fine.

as long as your customer lists something on the print or order then your ass should be covered. like if they said
"50 electrical boxes to specs included" and you were making 50 full automatic AK recievers that you DID NOT KNOW ABOUT then you ass is covered.

cool, this is giving me a few ideas for what to do with my suomi parts... :D

all the cool kids are doing it :evil:
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=277758

Anyone with a lathe should be able to turn those barrels for you in about 20 minutes. If I was closer i would do it for you. Why do you want the barrels turned down anyway? They will heat up much faster and possibly warp, then your really screwed.

ewww, gunsnet sucks ass.

akforum.net or akfiles.com is the places to be.

I'm currently building a hybrid AKM/PPS-43 in 7.62x25 blowback. might SBR it if it works out well enough, but I'm having a hell of a time finding AK74 bolts for a decent price.

I saw one of these conversion ona TEC 9...awesome looking...drumfed pistol...


odd that I have 8-9 suomi parts sets and 4-5 pps43 parts sets laying on my workbench...these are prolly why my runner isnt finished...

well the dood i know his machine is down. so, next :)

sorry i'm no help. but how many damn guns you got?

best answer i have heard is "More than i need, But not as many as i want"

ECG

My guess is since its a gun barrel it will be a hard tempered steel, more than likely going to have to use a carbide tool to cut it, also whatever finish is on it won't be there after it has been turned.

I doubt doc really cares about retaining the stock finish. ;)

Man I really want one of those Suomi mags modded for a 10/22. :evil: