Attn: Doc, or other Gun buying & selling guns accross state lines

[Cue-Ball]

What does it take for me (resident of GA) to sell a gun privately to a resident of FL, legally so the gun's registration shows the registration of FL?

[kodiak1232003]

Ffl?

[Cue-Ball]

I kinda knew that but don't know how exatly it works. which state should the ffl be in?

[CINCH]

You would ship it to a FFL in the other state

[admar2]

rifle or handgun?

rifle, just box it up and send it to an FFL on his end. FFL on his end does the transfer paperwork.


handgun, take it to a FFL on your end, they'll box it up, send it to the FFL on his end, and the FFL on each end will do the require paperwork.

[Cue-Ball]

Thanks you two, I admit to being completely stupid about this. Does the FL resident pay me the money for the gun and then pay the FFL for the transfer, or does the FFL pay me for the gun and then charge the FL resident for the gun and the charge? Someone give the the entire low down.

[Cue-Ball]

handgun

[CINCH]

You will ship the gun to the FFL in the other state, he then will pick it up there and they do the paper work. Only in their state, not both.

USPS for long guns, USPS will only ship long guns

Fed-ex and UPS for pistols and the have to be sent next day.

[Cue-Ball]

Could this also be done in person, if I were to be in FL? Just go to an FFL and have the deal be done?

[4runner]

you could send it to me and forget about the FL hassles...

[TheRedHorseman]

What does it take for me (resident of GA) to sell a gun privately to a resident of FL, legally so the gun's registration shows the registration of FL?

where does this "all guns are registered" myth come from, seriously?:shaking:

you would have to mail it to a federally licensed firearms dealer, hopefully somewhat near him. the buyer would have to pay whatever fee the dealer wishes and go through the background check(form 4473) and when that's all good and done he's out the door happy as a clam.

[Cue-Ball]

where does this "all guns are registered" myth come from, seriously?:shaking:

you would have to mail it to a federally licensed firearms dealer, hopefully somewhat near him. the buyer would have to pay whatever fee the dealer wishes and go through the background check(form 4473) and when that's all good and done he's out the door happy as a clam.

Hey, Retard, All guns have a history of registered owners, and I don't want my name to be the last one attached to a gun someone else owns/posesses.

And I want to know if it could be done in person: as if I were to travel to FL.

[TheRedHorseman]

Hey, Retard, All guns have a history of registered owners, and I don't want my name to be the last one attached to a gun someone else owns/posesses.

And I want to know if it could be done in person: as if I were to travel to FL.

what non NFA firearms have a list of registered owners? NONE. title one weapons are not registered unless you've got some stupid local registry. come on show me where the feds register weapons, please show me. you wont find it.(who's the retard now?)

and you could do it in person if you dont mind violating federal law.

[SCOTTS_4X]

^^ this guy is a moron. Yes you are right, there IS a record of the last person to have the gun transfered to them, hence the ffl (federal firearms logbook) holder needed to transfer the gun. I don't care what this guy says, I have bought SEVERAL firearms over the past few years, they DO take ALL of your info, the serial number/make/model/caliber of the weapon and record that into their log books. if anything ever happens with said weapon, they start at the factory, check log to find dealer, find dealer check log to find transferee, and on down the line until the last known person to posses the weapon is found.

also I'm not sure how it work interstate, but intrastate transfers I know for a fact can be handled in person. you and the new owner take said gun to ffl holder, fill out required paperwork, new guy waits (if said state requires waiting period) and he takes the gun home.

-Scott

[TheRedHorseman]

^^ this guy is a moron. Yes you are right, there IS a record of the last person to have the gun transfered to them, hence the ffl (federal firearms logbook) holder needed to transfer the gun. I don't care what this guy says, I have bought SEVERAL firearms over the past few years, they DO take ALL of your info, the serial number/make/model/caliber of the weapon and record that into their log books. if anything ever happens with said weapon, they start at the factory, check log to find dealer, find dealer check log to find transferee, and on down the line until the last known person to posses the weapon is found.

also I'm not sure how it work interstate, but intrastate transfers I know for a fact can be handled in person. you and the new owner take said gun to ffl holder, fill out required paperwork, new guy waits (if said state requires waiting period) and he takes the gun home.

-Scott
ok asshole, that's called an FFL BOUND BOOK. every federally licensed firearms dealer, gunsmith, etc has one. they log in the weapons that come into their possession to keep accountability of the dealer, not to track the weapons.

how about doing a bit of research before talking out of your ass

edit: what happens when there's a face to face private sale? oh your wonderful little "registration" setup doesnt work. that's because it is not to keep track of the firearms owners but rather to make sure the FFL is doing his job correctly.

and as for what he needs to do, check my other post, send it to an FFL interstate face to face deals are illegal.

[SCOTTS_4X]

sure, it's main purpose was not to track the gun owner/transferee, but what happens when a weapon is used in a crime and is founf with serial number intact? exactly like I said, they use any means neccesary, which means they go back to log books and find the last person the gun was transfered to. I personally know someone this has happened to, and also have a friend who owns a business that, until it got to be too much work, held a class 1 ffl.

-Scott

[TheRedHorseman]

sure, it's main purpose was not to track the gun owner/transferee, but what happens when a weapon is used in a crime and is founf with serial number intact? exactly like I said, they use any means neccesary, which means they go back to log books and find the last person the gun was transfered to. I personally know someone this has happened to, and also have a friend who owns a business that, until it got to be too much work, held a class 1 ffl.

-Scott
which makes it registration how? its no different than a bill of sale.

[mondtster]

sure, it's main purpose was not to track the gun owner/transferee, but what happens when a weapon is used in a crime and is founf with serial number intact? exactly like I said, they use any means neccesary, which means they go back to log books and find the last person the gun was transfered to. I personally know someone this has happened to, and also have a friend who owns a business that, until it got to be too much work, held a class 1 ffl.

-Scott


You are correct in saying that they would look for the last person a gun was registered to, but that doesn't really mean anything IMHO.

I have a good family friend who sold a 1911 some years back which ended up being used in a robbery. He was the last person that did paperwork pertaining to the gun, so the FBI was knocking on his door. All he had to do was prove where he was at the time of the crime and everything was fine.

I agree that what happened in this case was quite a bit of hassle, but I would just make sure you have a bill of sale. Some states require the registration of guns, but I've never lived in a place where they do, and I've bought and sold lots of guns face to face with people and have never given a second thought about it. Of course, it really depends on what kind of gun you are selling too, as I am more careful about the handguns than I am about the shotguns and rifles since the handguns are more popular for crimes because of their portability and the ability to conceal them.

My suggestion? I would check packing.org to see what the two state's laws are about registration, etc. If you can get away without going through an FFL, then that would be ideal.

[SilverZuk]

Go to GunBroker.com and read the shipping instructions.
They make it pretty clear.

[Cue-Ball]

and as for what he needs to do, check my other post, send it to an FFL interstate face to face deals are illegal.
When I said face to face, I meant in the gun shop with the FFL. In other words, without having to deal with shipping said firearm. I am going to be in FL and would rather do the sale legal and in person. Can I do that being from another state?

[SCOTTS_4X]

which makes it registration how? its no different than a bill of sale.

go back to my posts and find the word registration. never did I ONCE refer to any part of it as registration, nor was it my point to show that it is registration. my advice to the guy was to get the gun transfered by the ffl to avoid the hassle that was discussed above by mondtster.

-Scott