: Buick V6: Fuel injected?


weezman1
04-25-2002, 10:02 AM
Anyone running a fuel injection setup on a Buick V6??? Any cheap ways to get a setup/ do any vendors sell kits? I'm learning all sorts of new things about this motor, just need some clarification.

Thanks

T1H5_TA3
04-25-2002, 10:19 PM
well, one of the ez'est tbi setups is the holly projection. some people have complaned about reliability problems, most of them seem to have been worked out with holly's new comander 950 series of tbi. you can also try electramotive, howell, turbo city or a bunch others.

fatkid
04-25-2002, 10:22 PM
Did Buick ever offer a factory EFI?

FCwheeler
04-27-2002, 01:46 PM
I know that the 3.8 from front wheel drive cars uses a different bellhousing pattern (not BOP), but i am not sure if the block and heads are the same. Might be worth looking into, those are a multiport setup, kind of like vortech, maybe nor quite as good. If the block is essentially the same as the regular RWD 3.8 ( and all buick v6's) then you should be able to swap the heads and intake onto it, and have EFI easy. I have no idea if it will work, but if you try it, post pics and info!

Klasick68
04-29-2002, 08:46 AM
I've heard that nothing swaps between the FWD 3.8 and the RWD one. I have no first hand info on this, just some shit I heard from a kid that was tryin to put one in a 3B.
HTH

Root Moose
04-29-2002, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by fatkid
Did Buick ever offer a factory EFI?

Yes, these engines are still in production. If I was starting with a clean sheet I'd try to find a pre-OBD-II with the supercharger.

r@m

Root Moose
04-29-2002, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Klasick68
I've heard that nothing swaps between the FWD 3.8 and the RWD one. I have no first hand info on this, just some shit I heard from a kid that was tryin to put one in a 3B.
HTH

To my knowledge the 3.8 is BOP regardless of what it came from. If it isn't it would probably be Chev so that GM can reuse the same trannies from line to line.

That would give a couple of auto box options, either the narrow pan combined BOP/Chev version of the 700R4 or the 200R4.

No idea on the stick side.

This is what I've read on the Internet so it must be true, right?

:D

r@m

Root Moose
04-29-2002, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by FCwheeler
I know that the 3.8 from front wheel drive cars uses a different bellhousing pattern (not BOP), but i am not sure if the block and heads are the same. Might be worth looking into, those are a multiport setup, kind of like vortech, maybe nor quite as good. If the block is essentially the same as the regular RWD 3.8 ( and all buick v6's) then you should be able to swap the heads and intake onto it, and have EFI easy. I have no idea if it will work, but if you try it, post pics and info!

Are you sure about the FWD not being BOP or Chev?

I'm not saying your wrong, just first I've heard of that.

Inquiring minds...

r@m

T1H5_TA3
04-30-2002, 06:17 PM
the fwd 3.8 and 3800's are completely diferent than the old buick 3.8. sorry.. :( ive been doing a bunch o resurch on trying to do ether a swap useing a quad 4 or a 3.4 v6. ive given up on the quad 4 because i want to run an auto trans. it could be done on a man trans with the right belhousing. the 3.4 is one of the 60 degree v6's, they made front and rear wheel drive versions. and yes there is a diferance on bellhhousings between 60 degree eng's and 90 degree eng's(4.3, sbc etc) unfortunetly from what i have heard it is diferent than a bop pattern, but you can get a 700 out of a s 10 with the right pattern.

now i just have to find a dam 700 to toy tcase adapter

Root Moose
05-01-2002, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by T1H5_TA3
the fwd 3.8 and 3800's are completely diferent than the old buick 3.8. sorry.. :( ive been doing a bunch o resurch on trying to do ether a swap useing a quad 4 or a 3.4 v6. ive given up on the quad 4 because i want to run an auto trans. it could be done on a man trans with the right belhousing. the 3.4 is one of the 60 degree v6's, they made front and rear wheel drive versions. and yes there is a diferance on bellhhousings between 60 degree eng's and 90 degree eng's(4.3, sbc etc) unfortunetly from what i have heard it is diferent than a bop pattern, but you can get a 700 out of a s 10 with the right pattern.

now i just have to find a dam 700 to toy tcase adapter

There is a company in CO that makes a Quad 4 to 200R4 adapter - was in one of the Street Rodder magazines last month. I can get specifics if you want to pursue...

Thanks for the clarification on the 3.8/3800/RWD/FWD.

r@m

T1H5_TA3
05-03-2002, 07:20 PM
your probably thinking of quad4rods? i belive its just for man trans, i havent talked to them in a couple months. the only advantage of a 200 would be the slightly narrower pan. the 700 has a real wide pan, and needs a small dia shaft to clear.

Klasick68
05-04-2002, 12:25 AM
I looked into te 3.8 Fwd shit abit more, they almost seem like they are chevy instead of buick (even the flange pattern for the exh looks to be differen), but he bell is not even close to either, but might be adaptable. If anyone comes up with a trans that u can use em with that would kick ass!!! (even if it is only 2wd and req's a divorced transfer.

Klasick68
05-04-2002, 12:51 AM
just found this , might be helpful, since the one I checked out was late 80's, it might hold true,
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23329&highlight=oddfire
the info you are looking for is down on the bottom of the thread, says that supposedly the 84 and 85 fwd's use the same topend as the rwd ,and you can swap the injection, so long as it is a evenfire, once again, this is just second hand info, not shit I know for sure.
HTH