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78mphgpr
08-30-2006, 08:44 PM
I made contact with him about a buggy that he was selling, I made him an offer that he refused, he contered and I accepted.
It was advertised with Swampers that had 1 Moab trip on them, TR beadlocks, OBA, extra set of paddles and smoothies, spool, amongst the mod list. He did not say that anything that was in the add would change...until I flew across the country to look at it on a Saturday. I show up and it now has what look to be 10 year old swampers with cheap some cheap beadlocks. I inquire and he says that the other good set of Swampers do not go for that price, I look under the hood, no OBA, just the OEM compressor. He says that he has not had time to get it done. He then tells me that the paddle tires and wheels do not come with it.
All of this info comes to me after I have about $800 (airfare, hotel, rental car, etc...) invested into it. We go wheeling for a couple hours, and I notice that the trans temp gauge is not working to which he says "its just a loose wire, I'll take care of that". Ok, no big deal. Then coolant starts spewing on to the front axle, he says "I hav'nt had time to put a recovery tank on it, I'll take care of it". Ok, no big deal I tell myself again. We end up making the deal at the price we previously agreed on as long as the other tires and wheels go on he finishes the OBA, and gets the resivoir and such on there. And if he could not fit the side panels in the buggy that he will send them to me. I then give him $5K for a deposit and head home on Sunday. I told him that as soon as it was ready I would have it picked up and I would deposit the remaining balance in his account. He calls me on Wednesday and says that it all ready to go. He is paid the next morning and the buggy is picked up that afternoon and I am happy as shit!
About 4 days later Scott emails me to tell me that he fucked me. He did not do the OBA but he did set the tank in the buggy and he did not put in a resevoir. I am pissed beyond belief...he then offers to send me a resivoir that he just ordered along with the panels that he still owes me. Well here we are 1 month later, no panels, no resivor, and no responses to emails.
Fuckin Jerk off LIAR!
I would post link to the for sale thread but he deletes all of his threads.
Oh, a little thing that I thought was funny, I just swapped out the "spool" to a detroit, and was just welded, why even lie about that?
He is always selling buggies on here saying that "I am just getting out of wheeling" so everyone becareful with this guy.

sikazxj
08-30-2006, 09:17 PM
he's got another buggy for sale now, fortunately for me I live in phx so I won't be out so much money if it's a bad deal, sucks for you though, sorry to hear about it

78mphgpr
08-30-2006, 09:38 PM
he's got another buggy for sale now, fortunately for me I live in phx so I won't be out so much money if it's a bad deal, sucks for you though, sorry to hear about it
Thats my main reason for posting, to keep someone else from being screwed.

tonka452003
08-31-2006, 09:37 AM
well terry you need to get your facts straight
we agreed on a price and the new tires and wheels were put back on the rig as promised. as far as the other issues i explained about the onboard air that is was not in the add.
now as far as the other fricken parts as you said. you have my phone number and failed to use it. i have recieved no e-mail from you at all on either of my e-mail address.
when you do decide to call me and be a man and give me an address to send them to i would be happy to. as far as the panels go, make sure you don`t fricken lie about that like you did. you told me you had a friend that would be here in the up coming months and he would pick them up for you. now on the resivoir i told you that i couldn`t get one intime to ship it and i didn`t have one and that i be happy to send you one ( oh ya i have no fricken address to send it to nor do i have your fricken number) so again here is my number again 602-980-1158 which you have failed to use !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is what you told me so make sure you tell the hole truth terry.
so like i said i cant send you parts when i don`t have an adress to send them to so you need to make sure you tell the truth. i have not been hiding or avoiding you . my number is on the add. i have never been hard to get ahold of at all. you also have one of my buisness cards. so again feel free to call me so that i can get an address that i have been waiting for.
oh and another thing don`t be mad at me because the transport company you sent took 18 days to get it to you and they couldn`t find the driver. i did everything i said i would do and gave you a great deal and you know it. AS FAR AS THE PADDLES YOU WERE TOLD ON THE PHONE BEFORE YOU CAME TO PHOENIX THAT AT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU OFFERED THAT THEY WOULD NOT COME WITH THE RIG. AND THERE WERE NO FRONT RUNNERS IN THE ADD AT ALL JUST REAR PADDLES
YOU WERE TOLD THAT ON THE PHONE TERRY BEFORE YOU CAME TO PHOENIX AND YOU KNOW IT.
YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU GET ALL THE FACTS STRAIGHT AND TELL THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT.
again 602-980-1158 use the number

78mphgpr
08-31-2006, 11:54 AM
Are you serious dude. EVERYTHING that I posted is true. I talked to you ON THE PHONE 5 weeks ago and you said that you needed a shippinmg adress, I gave you my work address to send them to as you said that you needed a commercial address because the package would be large. Did you forget that. Its funny how you recieved all of my emails during purchase but none now that I need you to man up to your end of the bargain.
You yold me nothing about the paddles till I got there and you know it.
I did not mention one thing about the transport company as that had nothing to do with you. I am stating facts about you.
So are you sending me my oparts to the address that you requested? I will be happy to send it to you, seems how I already gave it to you over the phone and you did not ship it all out.
Please post the add that did say it had OBA, I would but you deleted it all.

tonka452003
08-31-2006, 12:36 PM
yes they are lies you gave me no address again you have my number and still fail to use it.
yes you were told about the paddles when you made the offer ON THE PHONE. i told you at that price that they would not go with it and you know IT
you are so full of shit
just like the panels you told me some guy would be here in phoenix to pick them up let me guess that was a lie too you are so full of shit it isn`t funny when i get an address you will have your parts as promised along with the panels that YOU were going to have picked up by some guy as you said.
like i said your parts are waiting NEED AN ADDRESS TO SEND THEM TO AND AS PROMISED YOU WILL HAVE YOUR PARTS
AS ALWAYS HERE IS MY NUMBER AGAIN 602-980-1158
WHICH YOU STILL HAVE FAILED TO USE

tonka452003
08-31-2006, 01:03 PM
well i am done with this childish crap
i know what the truth is!!! and so does he!!! the parts that he is refering to are ready to go and he has failed to give me an address or call me AGAIN MY NUMBER IS 602-980-1158 HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PUT IT ON HERE
when he does, he will get his parts. i have sold another bruiser on the site along with other parts with no problems at all. no buggies are not the only thing that i sell. i have sold parts just like everyone else.
THAT BEING SAID
I HAVE A BUGGY FOR SALE
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL ME FOR DETAILS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO


SCOTT
602-980-1158

78mphgpr
08-31-2006, 04:52 PM
well i am done with this childish crap
i know what the truth is!!! and so does he!!! the parts that he is refering to are ready to go and he has failed to give me an address or call me AGAIN MY NUMBER IS 602-980-1158 HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PUT IT ON HERE
when he does, he will get his parts. i have sold another bruiser on the site along with other parts with no problems at all. no buggies are not the only thing that i sell. i have sold parts just like everyone else.
THAT BEING SAID
I HAVE A BUGGY FOR SALE
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL ME FOR DETAILS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO


SCOTT
602-980-1158
I will not even think about calling you, any thing that you say you will deny later. If it is typed and you do not have the ability to delete it, you cannot deny it. You have taught me that anything that you say can not be trusted.
You screw me over than have the gull to call me a liar. You are the worst form of a piece of shit. I have absolutly nothing to gain by bringing this up and lying,other than to have others steer clear from you, why would I do that, if I was happy with how you treated me? You on the other hand have much more to gain by your lies. You lied to me so that I would pay you right away, it worked. You cannot deny that, I have the emails and will happily post them.
As for not giving you the address, are really going to say that you do not remember asking me for a commercial address because the package was so large? Give me a break, own up to it.
I will give you the address, but I will never expect the package.
Att: Terry Winchell
3007 1st street East
Bradenton FL
34208

tonka452003
08-31-2006, 05:31 PM
i am owning up to it
i have parts that are suppose to go to you and you just now have given me your address.
i never asked for a comercial address because as i said you told me that you had some guy that was going to pick up th panels when he was in town and i said that was fine they will be sitting here waiting as there are right now.
pretty said you sit here and bitch and bitch and bitch about the parts that i am suppose to send you and now you don`t want them. well i have them and when you are ready to accept these parts i will be happy to send them to you. you know its pretty sad how you sit here and say that i screwed you and didn`t give you these parts. im sure that if i was on here saying that i didn`t owe you shit and didn`t have any parts for you then i would say ya you have a leg to stand on. but you don`t i have been trying to get you to give me an address or a phone call and you wouldn`t do IT and now you say you won`t except the parts you need to make up your mind
you either want the parts or you don`t let me know you and i both know you didn`t get screwed you got a good buggy at a great price and you know it
AGAIN LET KNOW WHEN YOU WANT THESE PARTS I WILL BE HAPPY TO SEND THEM

HAVE A GREAT DAY

echos
08-31-2006, 06:24 PM
Hey Tonka, when he says, but i will never expect the package, means he doesnt really think you will send it. when you say except i think you mean accept. Change your c an p around it has a whole different meaning, send him his parts

78mphgpr
08-31-2006, 07:52 PM
I will ACCEPT the parts, but I do not EXPECT them. After all you told me that you would finish the air and such, then you told me that you did so that I would pay you and it would get picked up...and you did not do any of it. YOU STRAIGHT UP LIED!!!!!
How do you dissmiss that, then you say that this is childish?! Those are facts!

tonka452003
09-01-2006, 07:47 AM
well you really need to make up your mind if you want the parts or not. first you say that you want them, then you say you will not ( excuse me for the spelling) ACCEPT them. now you change your mind again you are such an idiot. the parts will be shipped next week and if you want them great if not i guess they will come back.
as far as the side panels, they will be here waiting for your buddy or whoever you said was going to pick them up when they were in town. oh thats right you never told me that you are so full of shit it isn`t even funny
your parts will be shipped as promised now that i finally have an address to send them to. which i have been asking for.
have a great day

Todd Osborne
09-01-2006, 12:37 PM
He never said he wouldn't accept the parts..It said "expect" them..Meaning he didn't think you would send them.. I know your mad,but slow down & read the posts so you don't sound silly..Not trying to bust your balls..I respect the fact that you posted up to defend yourself..:)

ecrist
09-01-2006, 02:43 PM
We need a mod to bring back the original FS ad.

Vortec_Cruiser
09-02-2006, 12:05 AM
I don't believe for a moment that you, tonka452003, weren't given a shipping address! :shaking:

78mphgpr
09-02-2006, 06:29 AM
So now you are not shipping the side panels? Figures. Just as I thought.
Idiot huh? You are the one that cannot read yet you call me the idiot due to your inability to understand what you read.
So you lied about hooking up the air to get paid, and you are still screwing me on the parts.
That is exactly how I thought that this would end.

78mphgpr
09-02-2006, 06:32 AM
We need a mod to bring back the original FS ad.
I could not agree more! Not that it matters, I already got screwed, the day that I left his house we made the deal and we shook hands...that does'nt mean shit to him. All he cared about was taking my money. I paid why does he not live up to his end? How do you just bold face lie to someone. I asked VERY specifically " Is the OBA all hooked up" "Yes" he replied. He even told me that he made the hose easy to get to! Unbelievable.

tonka452003
09-04-2006, 01:34 PM
like i had said
you told me that you had some guy that was going to be up here somtime soon that would pick these panels up. you know you said it but if you want to lie about it thats fine. the panels are here waiting for your guy to pick them up. as far as the other parts, you never gave me a shipping address to send them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FAILED TO CALL ME AND ASK OR TO EVEN FIND OUT IF THEY WERE EVEN SHIPPED. have you called and asked if they were shipped NO YOU HAVE NOT. yet my number has been posted on here and i have given it so many times. as i said last week your parts will be shipped this week. NOW THAT I HAVE AN ADDRESS TO SHIP THEM TO. you can say what ever you want terry you know you didn`t give me one and the OBA was not in the add and you were told about the paddles on the phone. the the buggy was shipped to you as promised with everything the way it was when you drove it. the tires and wheels were installed as promised when it was shipped.
im done with this im tired of your lies
have a great day

78mphgpr
09-04-2006, 03:27 PM
You just cannot stop can you.
These are facts, try to stay with me.
1.You had OBA in the add, where else would the idea ever come from as the truck does not have it now, where would I get the idea?
2. You said that you would put theOBA on before it got picked. Even if it was not in the add (which it was) you agreed to do it.
3. You did change the tires and wheels before I got there, you did change them back but why change them in the first place?
4. You don't remember any agreements or addresses that I gave you over the phone, that is why I must do everything with you in writing.
5. Your price was $25k not $26k.
6. You said nothing about the paddles till I got there.
7. You said the truck had a spool, it was welded...not a big deal, but why lie?
8. You said you would put a coolant recovery tank on it, you did not.
9. You said the tranny temp gauge was not working because it must be a loose wire...there is no sending unit!
10. I told you that I would have a freind there in October that could pick up the panels if needed, but I did not want to wait that long, you said that it was no problem to ship them as long as I gave you a commercial address because the package would be large.
I will see if I can get a mod to post the original add.

tonka452003
09-05-2006, 09:04 AM
no terry it is you that can not stop
let tell you again
1. the oba was not in the add when i was on the phone with you and i was going over the rig i said that there was a factory a/c comp on the eng. you asked what for and i had told you it was to be used as a oba it was not in the add !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my how we forget
2. the tires and wheels were installed on the buggy as agreeed when you were here in town and i have pics of them on the vehicle when it was loaded on the transport truck.
3. no terry you did not give me an address on th phone or you would have your parts. if you go back thru the posts you will see that as soon as you asked me about the parts i told you i needed and address. i didn`t say what parts or that i didn`t owe you any parts. i said i need your address to send them
did you call me and ask if the parts had been shipped or were they are on there way no you did not. i told you i didn`t have your e-mail address or your phone number so i couldn`t get ahold of you
4. yes i did tell you i would put a recovery tank on the buggy. i also told you that after looking that i didn`t have one at the house that i would send it to you. i didn`t want to put some piece of shit plastic one from checker on it. i had ordered an aluminum recovery tank from jegs and had to wait to get it
and then ship it to you. yes you were told this on the phone and you know it.
5. the orginal price was 26k when the add original came out
6. yes terry i did tell you that the paddles would not come with the buggy. you had called me and offered me 17k and i told you that i could not sell it for less than 20k and at that price the paddles would not go with it. that is why you never said anything about them when you came here. YOU WERE TOLD ABOUT THIS ON THE PHONE
7. the original add said that the rear was locked i told you that is was locked like a spool

these are the facts and you know it terry
your parts will be shipped this week like i said NOW THAT I HAVE AN ADDRESS
HAVE A GREAT DAY

78mphgpr
09-05-2006, 08:39 PM
I REALLY hope that Lance posts the add, I pm'ed him so all I can do is wait. You keep dodging the point that you LIED on the phone and said that the OBA was done...it was not when I got the damn buggy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FUCKING LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
You said nothing about anything till it was to late!
You said the least you would take was $20K, I said "OK, would you take anymore off with out the paddles" you said no, $20k was lower than you wanted to take but you would. END of story!
You told me about the recovery tank AFTER I got the buggy! I was in NO hurry to get the buggy, I would have happily waited, you were in a hurry to get paid, you lied so that I would pay you! I even paid an extra $300 to get it picked up early...for you! You gave me a sob story about going to pick up another buggy in Denver and you needed this money to go get it the following weekend!

jeepeatsleep
09-05-2006, 09:12 PM
Damn, I hate these kinds of post with caps lock and 40 !. How about you two MEN figure this out. Seams you guys had 2 different ideas of what was going to happen. I dont think the fact that you did not have his address is a good reason to just not contact him for a month. Send the stuff and come to an agreement on this and both of you stop making yourselfs look like kids.

Both of you could figure this out....Alone....

tonka452003
09-06-2006, 08:02 AM
i did come to an agreement
i have the address now and will be shipping parts as i said.
i am done
have a great day

tonka452003
09-08-2006, 09:24 AM
here you go
as i said i would do here are your tracking numbers

1. 1z78072x0340435462
2. 1z78072x0340396479

i went ahead and sent the fckin panels to you also EVEN AFTER YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THEM PICKED UP.

we are done
if you have anything else to say you need to pick up the phone like a fckin man and call me. don`t hide behind your fukin pc
have a great day

78mphgpr
09-08-2006, 08:08 PM
Hide? You have to be kidding me. I just have to have everything between us in writing because your word is not worth shit. That is why you sent me the buggy without doing what you would say. You are not man, just a salesman and liar. You act like sending me the parts is a favor, you still screwed me on the other stuff. Get real dude.

78mphgpr
09-08-2006, 08:14 PM
Damn, I hate these kinds of post with caps lock and 40 !. How about you two MEN figure this out. Seams you guys had 2 different ideas of what was going to happen. I dont think the fact that you did not have his address is a good reason to just not contact him for a month. Send the stuff and come to an agreement on this and both of you stop making yourselfs look like kids.

Both of you could figure this out....Alone....
We did figure out a deal, he just did not hold up his end of the deal. If I had gotten the buggy in the agreed condition there would have been zero problems. I did not, even though that I paid the agreed amount of money. I posted to keep other people from getting screwed by this guy. There is nothing that he can do now to reconcile the stuff that he did not do to the buggy, so I have nothing to gain other than to warn others. If you believe that to be acting like a kid than I hope everyone acts like a kid to help others out.

Mustard Dog
09-11-2006, 05:13 AM
This Tonka guy sure sounds like a fawkin shyster used car salesweasle.


Hey Matt or Gary, pull up the original sale post if you can, I'm sure that'll put this gay ass deal to rest.

78mphgpr
09-18-2006, 06:20 AM
Here are some emails were he admited that he fucked me on the air and you can see that he has had my address since July

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as you saw the panels are in a big roll uncut as you saw in the shop.
can you recieve somthing that big at that address?
i will send you the original add and show you that the air was not in the add.
i will copy and paste it and send it. along with the panels i will send you a coolant recovery tank that i ordered this morning from jegs.

scott
----- Original Message ----- From: "TERRY WINCHELL" <terryw5@msn.com>
To: <Scotty@TOMJONESFORD.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: Emailing: Picture 442, Picture 443, Picture 444, Picture 445, Picture 446, Picture 447, Picture 448, Picture 439, Picture 440, Picture 441


Scott, the add said on board air, I asked you on the phone where the compressor was and you said that it ran off of the compressor on the motor...I was stoked as I thought that it was just an electric compressor. You then made the deal, no matter how much money you lost you made the deal. You came up with the price, not me. I offered 17k, you declined and countered at 20k. I called you back the next day and we had deal. The condition of buying was to put the tires and wheels on it and hook up the air. You then told me that you did hook it up and it was ready to be shipped, you flat out lied to me. No matter how you want to look at it, you made a deal, and you lied. I do want the panels, please do send them
Att: Terry Winchell
3007 1st street E
Bradenton FL
34208


From: "Scotty" <Scotty@TOMJONESFORD.COM>
To: "TERRY WINCHELL" <terryw5@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Emailing: Picture 442, Picture 443, Picture 444, Picture 445, Picture 446, Picture 447, Picture 448, Picture 439, Picture 440, Picture 441
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:05:38 -0700

I am sorry that you feel that way terry. I don`t feel that you got screwed. Yes the paddles were in the add and I had told you that they would not go with it at that price. As far as the air compressor and air sys, it was not in the add. When we were talking on the phone
I had said that the a/c compressor was on there and you asked why and I had told you for the use of an air compressor. It was not in the add. As far as an over flow tank I never told you I would put one on and you even asked about it when it was being shipped that day and I had told you that I didn`t have have one for it. I will send you one for it however, I just need your address. Now as far as the panels, those are yours and I would be happy to ship them if you want. There are no other parts that were removed and as you can see by the pics I sent you when it was loaded that the tire and wheels were back on the rig as I agreed. I really am sorry that you feel that you got screwed but you and I and your friends know that you got one hell of a deal. I really am sorry that you feel that way. As I said I would be happy to walk you threw getting the air all hooked up if you would like and help you with anything else. However if you feel you have gotten SCREWED than I guess you don`t want my help. As I had put in my letter yesterday that I wasn`t happy with were the tank was when I had mounted it so I felt that you might want it in another place. Well as I said terry I am sorry that you feel that way and yes you will be getting the panels as I said, just as the tires and wheels were put back on the rig. I could see it if I shipped it down there with the other tires and wheels but I didn`t!!!!!
Like I said give me your address and I will send you an over flow tank. Just like I said though I did tell you that I didn`t have one for it. Have a great day and as I said if you have any questions or need me to walk you through getting that set up I will be happy to do that. Or help you with anything else on the rig.


scott
----- Original Message ----- From: "TERRY WINCHELL" <terryw5@msn.com>
To: <Scotty@TOMJONESFORD.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Emailing: Picture 442, Picture 443, Picture 444, Picture 445, Picture 446, Picture 447, Picture 448, Picture 439, Picture 440, Picture 441


I expected you to screw me...and you did. The compressor air system was in the add as were the paddle tires (which I did not say anything about). I called and made you an offer, you refused and said you needed 20k. I agreed 2 days later. You NEVER said that you would start picking it apart, I show up to find parts changed...not good. We made a deal that the overflow would go on as would the air system. I specifically asked if you got it done and you said yes you got the air done and were ready for it to be picked up and were in a hurry for the money. I paid an extra $300 so that it would be picked up that week to help you out. I was in no hurry and was prepared to wait the 2 weeks and save the money.
You know just as well as I do that you never get out of something what you put into it. We made a deal and you agreed to it, you just did not hold up your end. I did not stiff you on any of the money yet you felt compelled to screw me. I honestly don't understand why you made the deal then renigged on it. What about my panels and such...are you screwing me on those as well or are you going to actually follow through?


Terry Winchell
From: "Scotty" <Scotty@TOMJONESFORD.COM>
To: "TERRY WINCHELL" <terryw5@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Emailing: Picture 442, Picture 443, Picture 444, Picture 445, Picture 446, Picture 447, Picture 448, Picture 439, Picture 440, Picture 441
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:49:53 -0700

LIST
bruiser chassis
howe steering
beard seats
art carr shifter
auto meter gauges
5.0 mustang eng
c6 trans
5.0 transfer case atlas
painless wiring switch panel
willwood master cylinders
lockhart accell pedal
griffen rad
trans cooler with eletric fan
rear dana 70 513 gears locked
front dana 60 high pinion 513 gears w/ detroit locker
trail ready beadlocks
42 in swamper tires
holley low psi fuel pump
ford high psi fuel pump
optima battery
warn hubs
warn 9000 lb winch
hella lights
5/8 x 3/4 hiems for 4 link set up
1410 rear u-joints
1350 front drive shaft u-joints
fox 16 in coil over shocks
jaz fuel cell

this is the list for the buggy. i don`t think that i have left anything out but im not sure.
you will find that the air compressor is not operational on the buggy. i had the tank mounted on monday night but was not happy with it being so close to the exhaust. i removed it and it is strapped down next to the front pass seat along with the regulator.
i will agree that the tires and wheels were in the original add. as i said i would put those back on. the comperessor and air system were not in the add. im sorry if this upsets you but i will be happy to walk you threw on getting it all hooked up. i hope that you don`t feel that you got screwed on this deal since i did have over 21000.00 parts in this buggy so you got a great deal. i hope that you enjoy it and let me know if you need to know anything else about the rig. have a great day


scott

78mphgpr
09-18-2006, 06:20 AM
Hey Matt or Gary, pull up the original sale post if you can, I'm sure that'll put this gay ass deal to rest.
Please?!

tonka452003
09-18-2006, 08:10 AM
terry you really need to get over it
i told you i would send the parts and i did. they were shipped like i said and gave you the shipping numbers. i even sent the panels that you were suppose to have picked up by some friend that was going to be in town.
you really need to grow up. i have sent the parts now get over it.
if you think by posting lies on this board bothers me you are so wrong.
the add did not list oba but i still sent all the parts for it and even offered to walk you threw how to do it.
as i have said before you still don`t have the balls to call me and talk to me like an adult, you have to hide behind your p/c

as you can clearly read again i said that the oba was not in the add and i needed an address to send the parts. when i finally did get an adress i sent the parts just like i said i would terry
also as you can see in that list of what the rig had that was sent to you awhile back it didn`t say OBA, NOR DID IT SAY REAR SPOOL it said locked

Terry Winchell
From: "Scotty" <Scotty@TOMJONESFORD.COM>
To: "TERRY WINCHELL" <terryw5@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Emailing: Picture 442, Picture 443, Picture 444, Picture 445, Picture 446, Picture 447, Picture 448, Picture 439, Picture 440, Picture 441
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:49:53 -0700

LIST
bruiser chassis
howe steering
beard seats
art carr shifter
auto meter gauges
5.0 mustang eng
c6 trans
5.0 transfer case atlas
painless wiring switch panel
willwood master cylinders
lockhart accell pedal
griffen rad
trans cooler with eletric fan
rear dana 70 513 gears locked <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
front dana 60 high pinion 513 gears w/ detroit locker
trail ready beadlocks
42 in swamper tires
holley low psi fuel pump
ford high psi fuel pump
optima battery
warn hubs
warn 9000 lb winch
hella lights
5/8 x 3/4 hiems for 4 link set up
1410 rear u-joints
1350 front drive shaft u-joints
fox 16 in coil over shocks
jaz fuel cell


well have a great day.

78mphgpr
09-18-2006, 02:06 PM
Not a man? A man lives up to his word, you did not. It was in the add, where else would I come up with the idea? Even if it was not in the add (which it was) you said that you would put it on! At that point it does not matter, you said you would do it, then you said that you did...YOU DID NOT! LIAR! What is so fucking hard to understand?? You lied to get paid, there is no dening that.
I can assure you I am not hiding, I just want it all in writing. You sent the parts, I hope, what do I do about the shit that you did not do...ruin your rep as much as possible. I have nothing to gain by lieing.
Why do you bother posting a parts list that you sent me AFTER i got the buggy, that is not the ad.

tonka452003
09-18-2006, 02:39 PM
why did i post a parts lists ?
your the dumb ass that posted it. your the one that put it on here not me you fuckin jack off. your the one that asked me to send it to you, but i guess you don`t remember that either you fuckin dumb ass
you have the tracking numbers of the parts i sent track them dumb ass
there isn`t anything else that i didn`t do you fuckin idiot.
the parts are shipped just like i said they would be when you got me a fuckin address

and i didn`t lie to get paid you dumb ass. if that were true then i wouldn`t have done anything else. i sure as hell wouldn`t have sent you any parts. if i were trying to screw you i wouldn`t have done anything at all. so you can tell all the lies that you want.


have a great day

78mphgpr
09-18-2006, 02:54 PM
You posted the same shit that I posted that you emailed me AFTER the buggy was here. THAT IS NOT THE FUCKING ADD YOU FUCKING TROLL!!!!!!!!
You are so f'in stupid it brings me pain. I just posted the emails that you sent after I got the buggy.
You did'nt do anything else! The ONLY reason that you sent the parts is because I posted on here that you were a thief! You can easily see above that I gave you and address in July! Holy shit are you retarded! I started this thread, now you sent the parts, you still screwed me on the air.

tonka452003
09-18-2006, 03:19 PM
i didn`t post the list on here you fuckin idiot you did. why did i send it to you? because you asked for it you fuckin retarded dumb ass.
no the parts were sent after you just gave me an address last week you fuckin dipshit. go back and read what the fuck you posted on here at 5:20 am this morning you stupid fuckin idiot. this is the list that you asked for
after you got the rig so that you new what parts were on it. god you such a retarded fuckin idiot.

78mphgpr
09-18-2006, 03:45 PM
i didn`t post the list on here you fuckin idiot you did. why did i send it to you? because you asked for it you fuckin retarded dumb ass.
no the parts were sent after you just gave me an address last week you fuckin dipshit. go back and read what the fuck you posted on here at 5:20 am this morning you stupid fuckin idiot. this is the list that you asked for
after you got the rig so that you new what parts were on it. god you such a retarded fuckin idiot.
Dude, the only reason that list was posted is because it was in the emails showing that you lied about putting the air on! Holy shit, I cannot comprehend how you have gotten this far in life being so damn stupid. That list does not mean a damn thing. It wa just part of the string of emails.
Can you not read where I sent you the adress on July 19 at 8:29 a.m.
It is there in black and white and yoiu still fucking lie! Holy shit!

tonka452003
09-18-2006, 04:02 PM
lie about what you fucking idiot
where in that list does it show a fuckin OBA NO WHERE IN THE FUCKIN LIST AND WHERE DOES IT SAY SPOOL YOU FUCKIN DUMB ASS


YOUR FUCKIN PARTS ARE ON THE WAY. AS I SAID THEY WOULD BE


WE ARE DONE ASSHOLE
HAVE A NICE FUCKIN LIFE

78mphgpr
09-18-2006, 04:56 PM
lie about what you fucking idiot
where in that list does it show a fuckin OBA NO WHERE IN THE FUCKIN LIST AND WHERE DOES IT SAY SPOOL YOU FUCKIN DUMB ASS


YOUR FUCKIN PARTS ARE ON THE WAY. AS I SAID THEY WOULD BE


WE ARE DONE ASSHOLE
HAVE A NICE FUCKIN LIFE
That is the list you sent me after I got the buggy, not the add. You deleted the add!!!!!!!! I wanted the list so I knew what parts were in the axles and such if I needed replacements. I needed you to send me the list because you deleted the thread.
So are you totally dening the fact that you made a deal with me to put the air on, and the resivoir, and fix the tranny temp gauge? Remember the "loose wire"? Not even a sending unit! Fuckin salesman! You say we are done because you got paid. Fuckin salesman!
I love how you dodge every point that I make with "I sent the parts", well you should have a long time ago, and done the other things you were suppose to do. Fuckin Salesman!

ultimatejeep
09-20-2006, 03:47 PM
If you really think you were screwed you should seek some sort of settlement. No use sending the same statements back and forth.

ProJunkRacing
09-20-2006, 04:45 PM
yeah no shit lol so lance is he going to get the add or what?

78mphgpr
09-21-2006, 08:28 AM
If you really think you were screwed you should seek some sort of settlement. No use sending the same statements back and forth.
I am just trying to warn other people of this guy, I don't expect anything from him. It would be silly to think he would do anything admirable, his is simply a lieing thief.

Slapahoe
10-08-2006, 12:29 PM
So did you get your parts or what from this wenzel?

78mphgpr
10-13-2006, 10:17 PM
I did get a resivoir (missing every fitting) and some Lexan. Wish that he could do something about the shit he lied about, but I am over it now. I have gotten 6 pms from locals around him and they have all told me what a cocksucker he is. Not that I need the validation, I just found it amusing. I am over it, I am going to finish the buggy and wheel the shit out of it.
Everyone else just stay away from this salesman!

Dr Drae
10-15-2006, 12:41 PM
Tonka, why did you delete the original ad??

tonka452003
10-16-2006, 01:20 PM
Your the cock suckin piece of shit !!!!!!!!
As far as the add why the fuck should i leave an add posted on here if it sold you dumb ass !!!!!:shaking:

Seems pretty funny I have sold a bunch of other stuff on here with no problems. Including the buggy that i had listed a couple of weeks ago. I had no problems at all.
Just cock suckers like you that fuckin lie about shit.
Have a nice life cock suckin whine bag:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

ProJunkRacing
10-16-2006, 01:57 PM
Your the cock suckin piece of shit !!!!!!!!
As far as the add why the fuck should i leave an add posted on here if it sold you dumb ass !!!!!:shaking:

Seems pretty funny I have sold a bunch of other stuff on here with no problems. Including the buggy that i had listed a couple of weeks ago. I had no problems at all.
Just cock suckers like you that fuckin lie about shit.
Have a nice life cock suckin whine bag:flipoff2: :flipoff2:


I bet you wish you could delete this thread too ......:flipoff2:

tonka452003
10-16-2006, 02:05 PM
Not at all dipshit

Have a nice day ass :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

78mphgpr
10-16-2006, 07:02 PM
So are you totally dening the fact that you made a deal with me to put the air on, and the resivoir, and fix the tranny temp gauge? Remember the "loose wire"? Not even a sending unit! Fuckin salesman! You say we are done because you got paid. Fuckin salesman!
I love how you dodge every point that I make with "I sent the parts", well you should have a long time ago, and done the other things you were suppose to do. Fuckin Salesman!
What is your reply to this?
You never address any point, just call me a liar. Sad. You told me over the phone that the air was on and done. I even asked where the hose came out and you replied "I made it easy to get to". You are just a liar...end of story, I hope that you keep replying so this stays at the top so all of your locals see it. The stories that have been sent to me about you are fuckin hilarious. I hear that you are down to about 3 friends there because everyone there thinks you are an asshole!

Dr Drae
10-16-2006, 10:08 PM
As far as the add why the fuck should i leave an add posted on here if it sold you dumb ass !!!!!:shaking:

Actually most people just put "sold" at the end of their thread and leave the ad up, the value being that people who are searching past ads can see what's been sold and for how much. This may give them an idea of what their item for sale is worth, or if someone else is selling an item, they'd know if the asking price is high or low. Rather than call you suspicious for deleting the ad (possibly hiding evidence) I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and just ask why you did it. You're response speaks volumes.

dky63
11-29-2006, 11:28 AM
Why does Tonka452003 not have a yellow star if he is selling buggies on this site?

SeaBass44
11-29-2006, 01:12 PM
Actually most people just put "sold" at the end of their thread and leave the ad up, the value being that people who are searching past ads can see what's been sold and for how much. This may give them an idea of what their item for sale is worth, or if someone else is selling an item, they'd know if the asking price is high or low. Rather than call you suspicious for deleting the ad (possibly hiding evidence) I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and just ask why you did it. You're response speaks volumes.

ya they do, but the better way is to EDIT THE 1st line of add, this does 2 very important things

#1 you can see item is sold without opening add & reading all the way through to only find out you just wasted your time.
#2 is doesn't get bumped to the top,so it doesn't push all the active adds down.