this is not for me this this is for a friend i got d60

does any one know what rotors will fit to do a disc break swap
on a d35

i was going to use gm calapers

thanks scott:emb:

ZJ to TJ Rea Disc Brake Conversion



On a friends advice and shared knowledge I have converted my rear Super 35 C-Clip axle (97 TJ) drum brakes to Disc Brakes from a 96 - 98 ZJ with D35 c-clip axle.

The parts I used came from a salvaged 98 ZJ ( D35 c-clip).

I paid $40 for everything from the axle flange bolts out through and including the rotors on both sides. I paid another $15 for the two parking brake cables. (Ford Expolore parking break cables will work as well.)


This is almost a straight bolt on operation.

You will have to come up with a means of connecting the calipers to the old TJ brake hardlines. You can buy a kit form Currie that will solve this issue for you.

If you want to do this conversion you can get the Currie Hose Kit for the Ford Explorer Rear Disc Brake Conversion by calling Currie at 714-528-6957. The part number you want is #6013 and it's cost is $36.95.

The kit contains all of the following parts for both rear brakes:

Clips to weld to the axle tubes, Clips for them, Hoses, Banjo Bolts, and Copper Sealing Washers.


I have sandblasted the backing plates and caliper brackets, and painted them in Hammerite.

I replaced the calipers with rebuilt units for $32 each. Be aware!!!!! There is a $48 core charge for each of the old calipers so don't leave them in the junkyard when you leave.

I also went with new rotors ($28 each). I just don't like using old brake parts.

There are also rebuild kits available for the emergency brake parts (Springs, retainers, ect.) I picked them up as well, for about $12 I think.

I have less the $200 in this.

Please note, this conversion is for the D-35 c-clip axle, and is a straight bolt on operation, or as bolt on as anything can be expected to be. This is for the 96 - 98 ZJ Rear Disc Brakes to the 97 and UP TJ D-35 axle. I do not know if this will work on any other years.

Hope this helps you out.


Frank


PS: I don't have a D-60 by choice.

Why carry around 14 gazillion pounds of unsprung weight when it's not needed.

I have a Super 35 that works great!

Edited to correct a typo. I said "86" - 98 ZJ, corrected to read "96" - 98 ZJ....

Dude, just tell him to get a 8.8 out of an exploder if he wants discs. Do the guy a favor. It's probably cost about the same and be less work than messing around trying to adapt something to a 35C.

Jake

Originally posted by Jakesteramalamajama
Dude, just tell him to get a 8.8 out of an exploder if he wants discs. Do the guy a favor. It's probably cost about the same and be less work than messing around trying to adapt something to a 35C.

Jake

Good Morning Jake,

I was thinking maybe he should put a Rockwell back there and then only have to deal with one Rear Disc Brake for simplicity.


But....


I resisted the urge being the question was "Does any one know what rotors will fit to do a disc break swap on a d35

I suppose I can't help myself. It's a personality flaw of mine. I tend to answer questions that are actually asked! (When I am able.)


How about you?

Any technical information of value to add to this question?

Know of any other info on Disc Brakes that will fit a D-35?

Frank

Why carry around 14 gazillion pounds of unsprung weight when it's not needed.


Any technical information of value

Last time I checked a rear 60 didn't weigh 14 gazillion pounds- more like ~475.

Why don't you get your tech straight Frank:D

Also, do you know flmanyj personally? If not, then how do you know that the unsprung weight of a 60 is not needed in his case?

Come on now Frank, give me a good comeback- but wait, I did add tech with the approximate weight of a 60.

:D

(here's some 35c tech too- with 40 feet of HD Marine rope the 35c makes a nice shallow water boat anchor)

Originally posted by Daless2


Good Morning Jake,

I was thinking maybe he should put a Rockwell back there and then only have to deal with one Rear Disc Brake for simplicity.


But....


I resisted the urge being the question was "Does any one know what rotors will fit to do a disc break swap on a d35

I suppose I can't help myself. It's a personality flaw of mine. I tend to answer questions that are actually asked! (When I am able.)


How about you?

Any technical information of value to add to this question?

Know of any other info on Disc Brakes that will fit a D-35?

Frank

Frank,

I bow to your superior tech. You've got the shiniest turds around.

:flipoff2:,
Jake

Originally posted by bigdude


Last time I checked a rear 60 didn't weigh 14 gazillion pounds- more like ~475.

Why don't you get your tech straight Frank:D

Also, do you know flmanyj personally? If not, then how do you know that the unsprung weight of a 60 is not needed in his case?

Come on now Frank, give me a good comeback- but wait, I did add tech with the approximate weight of a 60.

:D

(here's some 35c tech too- with 40 feet of HD Marine rope the 35c makes a nice shallow water boat anchor)



Hi Kevin - bigdude,

Sure, I'll attempt a come back! :)



Lets see, First I Must Stand Corrected.

You are absolutely correct, the D-60 rear does not weight 14 gazillion pounds as I had stated in a previous note.

I did however take the time to go weigh the one on my shop floor, over at the local weigh station.

Including brakes and drums, carrier, 35 spline axles, ARB and cover (but no pinion yoke, brake cables or hydro lines) my full width Rear D-60 only weights 390 lbs.
(Please note this is plus or minus 5 lbs as that is the margin of error for the weighing scale I just took it too.)

I wonder why there is such a difference between your weight calculation of 475 lbs. and my measurement of 390 lbs. ??

Does this count as "Getting my Tech Straight?" :) (Yes retirement is truly great! Lots of time!)



Can't say that I know flmanyj personally at all Kevin.

Nor do I know "if the unsprung weight of a 60 is not needed in his case".

(Is there an automotive engineer who can build a case for unsprung weight being of value in any case? I would like to talk to that person! That would be like a re-write of basic physics!)

I also don't know if flmanyj needs a haircut either.

In truth, the things I don't know far outweigh the things I do know.

One might say if you could put all the things I know together they wouldn't even fill up a Thimble!!



That said: .......

One of the things I do know "for sure" (It's in the thimble) is that flmanyj is requesting some help via an answer to his question. "does any one know what rotors will fit to do a disc break swap on a d35"

AND

One of the items I could "take out" (of the thimble) is an Actual Answer to his Question! (Be it technical or otherwise, an answer that is 100% accurate!) :)



How did I do with my come back? :) I'm still new at this stuff !!



Hey, are you and Buddy going to make it to Vernal, Utah for the May 16 - 19 RCAA event?

Let me know if you are, I'll buy you a beer afterwards my friend.

Have a great day,


Frank

Edited to correct spelling of "bear" to "beer"

I wonder why there is such a difference between your weight calculation of 475 lbs. and my measurement of 390 lbs

Perhaps because my only true point of reference was my full width front HP60, which I'm sure weighs more than a rear due to the added steering components and such. My rear is a shaved 14 bolt so my rear 60 was just a guess, thus the ~ added before the 475.

Is there an automotive engineer who can build a case for unsprung weight being of value in any case? I would like to talk to that person

I am no automotive engineer but I will value unsprung weight in the case of droop and stability. A heavy load down low can keep you from toppling as well as helping a tire to claw at a rock. Do you not take value in these aspects of unsprung weight?

Buddy and I will not be competing together- however, I may be in Vernal as Ken Shupes spotter. he seemed to think I did a good job at ERocC and asked me. So I may have to buy you a beer. :beer:

Well Kevin,

There are a few more things in my "Thimble of Knowledge".

One of which is the fact you did an Outstanding Job of Spotting Buddy at ERocC and I think Ken recognizes that too.

I hope this opportunity works out for you.

We can discuss "unsprung weight" over the beer. I have a feeling after a few it will mean less and less! :)

Frank

now if that wasnt the most friendly exchange i have ever seen on por i dunno what was and since i dont know either one of ya i will ship a:beer: :beer: to both of yas

yeah we better knock that sh!t off

Hey Frank :flipoff2:

(j/k)

Originally posted by bigdude
yeah we better knock that sh!t off

Hey Frank :flipoff2:

(j/k)

No kidding. All these warm fuzzies give me the creeps...

:flipoff2:

what does any of this half to do with my post:mad:

Originally posted by flmanyj
what does any of this half to do with my post:mad: not a damn thing cuz all your doin is polishing a turd...tell yer buddy if he wants discs to get a ford 8.8, or a 9 inchw/discs, or a d-44 wirh discs....why waste the time and money on a 35? yeah i still have one...cuz my 8.8 is getting cleaned up and ready to go in...and since the 35 aint broken right now as soon as i grenade it it will get me to quit being lazy and do the swap...but i still got two spare shafts to use before putting the 8.8 in....i like the sound of snapping d-35 shafts :flipoff2:

Why bother????
Oh and I just have to ask this:
If this "isnt for you, you have a D60, then why do you state in your original post, "I was going to use GM calipers."???? wouldn't it be YOUR "friend" using the GM calipers?? :rolleyes: Don't bother wasting your time either way. Its not worth the effort.
Scott

what does any of this half to do with my post

Nothing you newbie. Do you honestly think on a BB that the only things talked about are the answers to newbie questions about polishing turds:rolleyes: :flipoff2: :p

What complications does having ABS give to the ZJ to TJ conversion? Can the ABS just be by-passed by pulling the fuse?

Thanks.

this is not for me this this is for a friend i got d60

does any one know what rotors will fit to do a disc break swap
on a d35

i was going to use gm calapers

thanks scott:emb:
use suzuki vitara rear rotor. will be fine, just bolt on

use suzuki vitara rear rotor. will be fine, just bolt on

I dont think he cares anymore, he asked about 6 1/2 years ago.

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