just wondering??

CAUSE THEY SUCK!! :flipoff2:




sorry, somebody had to tell ya:D


:usa:

nissan + rocks = new metallic obstacle to drive over!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

lack of aftermarket i guess. they would work as good or better than toy if set up with the right suspension. i know the engine puts out better power than the toy, at least the 4cyl used to. i have 180K on my work truck and have only had to change the starter once. seriously considering changeing it over to 4wd to deal with the snow up here.

if i was gonna build a mini pickup, i'd seriously consider it, my friend has an 84 as a daily driver, and it is FAST, can take a new V6 taco, and then i could run a waggy D44 in the front and never have to deal with birfields. my only consern is putting a t-case behind the 2wd tranny, i was thinking of starting with a 2wd cause they are pretty cheap, my friend has like 200 into his.
oh ya, btw, does anyone know where you can get a cam for that old nissan motor, you know, the one with 8 sparks plugs and 2 coils?

For one thing, their stuff just isn't as stout as Toyota. They work good, just not as strong. My son had an 84 Kingcab 4x4 and all it had was a mild lift and 33" BFG a/t's. We took it down the Rubicon and it did amazingly well considering it was mostly bone stock. We only went as far as Ellis Creek and back. Didn't wanna push our luck.:eek: But, he had no trouble at all and came out without a scratch. He also took it snow wheeling several times and it worked just as good as my CJ-7. Went everywhere I went and even drove around me a couple times when I got stuck. They do not have much in the way of aftermarket stuff though. You could just hang a couple of Toyota axles under there but I haven't seen any place to get crawler gears for their t-case...

If something breaks on the trail though, you're screwed cause nobody is gonna have parts or anything to help out like you would have with a Toyota. Since hardly anybody wheels a Nissan, who knows what is prone to breakage anyway... :(

I like Nissans. The reason I think that people don't build them is not because they are junk, it is because they dont have a very good after market base.

The way that most people build up a vehicle is start with someting stock or near stock, and work up from there, adding parts that suit the type of driving that they do. The problem with Nissans is there are very few places to get good parts to modify them. The parts tend to be expensive because of that.

Now if you are planning to go out and build an extreme rig right from the begginning, I don't see why not to use a Nissan. It is basically the same as starting with an IFS Toy, you will be swapping out the axles , suspension and such anyway, so there is no need for Nissan specific bolt on parts.

Sean

i thought the guys in australia are running a lot of patrols in the competitions down there and doing amazingly well

i was thinkin toy or 44 for the axles and use the OTT toy t-case kit to adapt to the nissan 2wd tranny, some drive lines a new crossmember and some trimming to clear say 37's and done. or i could just look into the f350 i got a line on. i need the tow rig more.

From a Nissan owner (can't believe I'm admitting that):

Nissans suck ass. Alot. Alot alot. Did I say they suck ass alot? They don't have a kit for swapping in a solid axle, the gear ratio in the Tcase isn't even a reduction at 2.02:1, and oh yeah, IFS? Hmm. No. Nissan steering? Hmm.. Worse.

Patrols are sweet though. Turbo diesel with solid coil sprung front and rear is awesome.

As for my Pathfinder, at the end of the summer (when I've got a little green to blow), I'm gonna take out the IFS, and take out the coils in the rear. It'll be leaf sprung Waggy 44, and stock H233B with 1/4 ellipticals. For the tcase, Calmini's making 4:1 or close gears for the tcase.

maybe nissan sucks, maybe it dont, i dont know, you dont see aftermarket stuff out there because there isnt a demand for it, well not enough to produce anyway, and that makes me wonder,,,why did toyota take off and pave the way for so many aftermarket goody companies?? maybe nissan does suck.

I know someone who's working on a dual case setup for nissan's

there are few parts for nissans because when they first came out they had ifs, the toyotas had solid axles. no aftermarket support means most guys bought toyotas.
if you are going to build a full on trail rig what difference does it make what you start with? going to swap out almost everything anyways

Originally posted by McSoo
From a Nissan owner (can't believe I'm admitting that):

Nissans suck ass. Alot. Alot alot. Did I say they suck ass alot? They don't have a kit for swapping in a solid axle, the gear ratio in the Tcase isn't even a reduction at 2.02:1, and oh yeah, IFS? Hmm. No. Nissan steering? Hmm.. Worse.

What the hell are you talking about and why hasn't someone flamed you for this already? No "KIT" for an SAS? How many KITS are out there for any SAS? And the ones that are out there are way overpriced. KIT is code for "we throw some hardware in a box, call it a "kit" and charge 5 times what it's worth than if you bought it separately." Fabritech's kit for TTB Fords is a perfect example. I won't comment on the KIT for IFS Toys 'cause I dunno anything about it, but it probably isn't cheap?? Every SAS should have to be custom to some extent (if only a little), the bolt-on craze is out of hand. Sorry McSoo, just busting your balls - I'm flaming "kits" more than I'm flaming you.... build it, don't buy it ya know?

I WILL definitely agree w/you about Nissan's IFS and steering. Ran w/an IFS Pathfinder in Moab a few years back and he kept bending one of the steering linkages. I'm not sure exactly which piece but he had lots of horror stories about his IFS.

I agree about the kit thing, who gives a fawk about that.. I think the big fault is the transfercase, you cant really complain about IFS because SA trucks are so rare anyway.

Originally posted by D60


What the hell are you talking about and why hasn't someone flamed you for this already? No "KIT" for an SAS? How many KITS are out there for any SAS? And the ones that are out there are way overpriced. KIT is code for "we throw some hardware in a box, call it a "kit" and charge 5 times what it's worth than if you bought it separately." Fabritech's kit for TTB Fords is a perfect example. I won't comment on the KIT for IFS Toys 'cause I dunno anything about it, but it probably isn't cheap?? Every SAS should have to be custom to some extent (if only a little), the bolt-on craze is out of hand. Sorry McSoo, just busting your balls - I'm flaming "kits" more than I'm flaming you.... build it, don't buy it ya know?

I WILL definitely agree w/you about Nissan's IFS and steering. Ran w/an IFS Pathfinder in Moab a few years back and he kept bending one of the steering linkages. I'm not sure exactly which piece but he had lots of horror stories about his IFS.

Sorry about the "kit" thing. I've always believed in the DIY method or build it, don't buy it. I am going to try to make a "kit" for Nissans when I do my swap later this summer. You know, maybe I can make some money off all the saps who bought Nissan instead of Toyota. Sure, I bought a front spring hanger, but it was 70 bucks, and made out of some real thick steel that I couldn't have welded with my little 110 Mig.
On price, the kit for the Toyota, if you have your own axle, I think is like 1600 or something. Yeah, expensive.

Nissans - bloody hell. There would be more built Nissan Patrols in Australia wheeling than any other make. Guys here put a 6 to 8 in lift on them a set of 36s, lockers and wheel the crap out them.

You can buy everything for them off the shelf. From 8in lifts, low transfer gears (gets you to about 80:1 I think) triangulated three link for the rear (to replace the 5link) and 5link fronts (to replace the two link radius arm) and everything alse.

Nissans are way stronger than Toyotas in everything and they are all coil sprung and live axles (nobody wheels pathfinders or whatever you guys call a nissan with ifs) you can buy them in either wagons or tray back utes.

Nissans - I hate the fawkers - they are fawkin everywhere :flipoff2:

Sam

My neighbor wheels a Nissan. :eek:







And No, He couldnt pull me out. He had to go back to the house and get the EB on 44" Boggers :D

Originally posted by Benny Boy
My neighbor wheels a Nissan. :eek:

And No, He couldnt pull me out. He had to go back to the house and get the EB on 44" Boggers :D

I saw a truck almost exactely like that except extended cab and full exo cage in rocklin a couple months ago.

and the # 1 reason nobody takes them seriously................they never made a mini with a straight axle.



if they had i am sure you would see plenty of them in the rocks. years ago they were the ticket in desert racing then the factory pulled the plug and i don't think they have sold one to a wheeler since.

Originally posted by camo
and the # 1 reason nobody takes them seriously................they never made a mini with a straight axle.



Camo hit the nail directly on the head with this one. Had they brought a solid axle mini over here, I'll bet half of the Toy guys here would own one. (well, maybe not, but it's a nice thought!)

Hey Strange Rover, I know this is a big favor to ask, and I'm sure that it pains you greatly, but can you get me a few phone numbers of the places that are selling lower gears? Right now Calmini has about 4 total sets of low tcase gears and they are being tested. I can't wait that long. PM me or whatever if you can find any numbers. Thanks.

Originally posted by Benny Boy
My neighbor wheels a Nissan. :eek:
And No, He couldnt pull me out. He had to go back to the house and get the EB on 44" Boggers :D

Jeeze, benny, that looks like my back yard :D :D :D we gotta go to browns sometime. wanna go may 18th?:usa:

I own an 89 Nissan 4x and the reason i got it was I got a good deal and it had 10more hp than the Toyota 4x had. I blew the motor a couple of years ago and was going to do a Chevy V-6 swap but could not find out the particulars. The is almost no aftermarket for them and hence my expansion into Landcruisers.

IMO until recently most of their trucks have been kinda fugly... but aside from that i think the trucks are cool, but that the owners are what keep the real wheelers away. i know a guy who was (for lack of a better term) excommunicated from the xterra community for putting 33s on his X... but we wont get into those kinds of people again!!!

I think we're talking trucks here not Xterras.

Hmmm Yea the IFS sucks on a Nissian's. Trust me I messed mine up (yes I have owned and still do Niss/Datsuns) I had a 87 Xcap regualar bed, Nap Z motor (8 plugs/2 coils on a 4 banger) Divorced T-case......and lower the 2-1 ratio. That Truck could Climb like there was no tommorow.......Bad point, I kept blownin Trannies :confused: :( did not find out till later that it was due to a bad pilot bushing housing..... Motor Rocked lots of power and had 150K+ on it.... I had 30" BFG M/T under it.....Then I started working on the road and changed over to some 275/15 AT from BIG O biggest mistake I made, got stuck out in sand going down hill :( :( :( the belly of the truck bottom out on the lip of the hill and high centered me .......... Buddy in a jeep had to give the ass of the truck a push LOL..........But still got around 25-30MPG :flipoff2: :flipoff2:



All in all I think a Nissian would be a fun little wheeler. swap out the running gear to some D44 on it and dual T-cases and you could really play. I think Datsun(Pre 1983's Nissian) had a couple 4x4 with a solid front axle. Don't quote me on that cause I have not been in that game for a good couple years

I had one once. I sold it and bought a Jeep.

Originally posted by Strange Rover

You can buy everything for them off the shelf. From 8in lifts, low transfer gears (gets you to about 80:1 I think) triangulated three link for the rear (to replace the 5link) and 5link fronts (to replace the two link radius arm) and everything alse.

Nissans - I hate the fawkers - they are fawkin everywhere :flipoff2:

Sam

Oh, so they're like CJ's, YJ's and especially TJ's here... I gotcha :eek:

Originally posted by Pook
I know someone who's working on a dual case setup for nissan's

Who? Give me names, phone numbers, addresses, etc. I'm interested. Or give the peron my info. I'm tired of 2:1 and feeling like I'm on a highway while out with my PF.

Originally posted by Benny Boy
My neighbor wheels a Nissan. :eek:







And No, He couldnt pull me out. He had to go back to the house and get the EB on 44" Boggers :D he aint gonna pull much of anything out when teh front tires are bowed in like that.

My brother and I both have nissan pathfinders. One of them is straight axled with a full size d44 with an 8.8 in the rear. It has waggy springs all around. Its on 35s but has room for 38s. You guys can bag on nissans but I love them. Mines got 246,000 miles and runs great. Hope fully it will get an sas here in a month or so. Check out www.pathfinderoffroad.com, They have lots of info on sas and also know where to buy 6 to 1 transfer case gears. Our sas nissan is awsome. Ramps higher than my friends toyota on wranglers and chevys. Well I think nissan are also way roomer than toys and 4 runners. I am not baggin on toys but I love my nissan. I will try to post some pics of it.

Originally posted by The Jerk
he aint gonna pull much of anything out when teh front tires are bowed in like that.

Good Eye...

That truck never leaves the property. He bends those steering parts everytime. Sotck 4 cyl, stok axles, stock gears, 39" tires.

But now, he has a 429. about half way through the swap. Still has IFS.

Originally posted by withamc
I had one once. I sold it and bought a Jeep.

You are supposed to UPGRADE :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Samwise


Jeeze, benny, that looks like my back yard :D :D :D we gotta go to browns sometime. wanna go may 18th?:usa:

I am going some time soon. The club (www.cascadecrawler.com) are going to browns one of the next few weekends. Not sure yet. I work saturdays, so I would have to get the time off a couple days in advance, also need to borrow trailer...

Originally posted by D60


Oh, so they're like CJ's, YJ's and especially TJ's here... I gotcha :eek:

Yep - at any 4wd comp probably 80% would be nissans, 10%zuks 5% toyotas

Heres a typical nissan. They all look the same (to me) and they all run the same gear and they all go the same (full noise all the way).

Sam

You get them in LWB 117inches I think. That one was a LWB.


Heres a SWB 100inches

Originally posted by finder_87
My brother and I both have nissan pathfinders. One of them is straight axled with a full size d44 with an 8.8 in the rear. It has waggy springs all around. Its on 35s but has room for 38s. You guys can bag on nissans but I love them. Mines got 246,000 miles and runs great. Hope fully it will get an sas here in a month or so. Check out www.pathfinderoffroad.com, They have lots of info on sas and also know where to buy 6 to 1 transfer case gears. Our sas nissan is awsome. Ramps higher than my friends toyota on wranglers and chevys. Well I think nissan are also way roomer than toys and 4 runners. I am not baggin on toys but I love my nissan. I will try to post some pics of it.

Please give me the website for these 6:1 gears. I'd be interested.

Originally posted by Strange Rover
You get them in LWB 117inches I think. That one was a LWB.


Heres a SWB 100inches

those are cool!!

if nisssan sold em here they would kick ass -

But all the xterra peeps would be pissed...cause there wheeler wouldn't be the best in the worrld no more..

heres a nissan i have wheeled with. its got a chevy 350/th350/205 with a chevy d60 front and ford 10.25 rear i believe. yes those are 44 inch tires and it has custom coil sprung suspension front and rear

they do wheel a lot, that LWB has the typical bogan standing next to it, and the black one wanted to get into top truck......they go pretty hard considering mostly all they do is bung in some coils and shocks and thats it, some of the richer competitors put longer trailing arms, adjustable panhard rods, and lower the front trailing arms put caster correction kits on stuff that makes them drive better, with very little guard trimming and 5 inch suspension and 2 inch body they run 36" swampers really well (partols) but have limited flex, due to front trailing arms, and things, which can be fixed with 5 links and so on....

a guy i used to wheel with, 5 inch coils, 35" muds, 2" body lift, turbo and longer shockies, with some trimming, is all that he has done:

2 other patrols i wheel with lotsa mods on the red on 8 inch coils 2 inch body, 35s, lockers, the blue one is stock with stereo and lots more bends now, dints and so forth

and another:

whoops, someone is hiding in the grass ;)

HI see picture <BR>

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if nissan sold those patrols here, i'm sure they would be competing with sales for the lancruiser. which means they would have leather and all the luxo stuff and be like $50,000 just like the cruiser. probly not a big enough market to bring it in.

Originally posted by fenix
HI see picture <BR>



Hey, fenix, check out this cool picture!
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Hey RHINO, that Patrol you sold my friend apparantly has "lots of work to be done before it's trail safe"... HAHAHA What a joke. He told my roommate that he almost sold it for 1500 a few days ago because he rewired switches and couldn't get the wiring right.. :rolleyes: He is such a dumbass. He was complaining about how it isn't safe to be driven on the trail and all this other crap. My roommate and I are just about ready to rescue it for SWANKy (our Nissan club). How is your new project coming along?

hahah considering that I register a full year over you means I am a newbie.. so what If I dont post as much as the next person .. I lurk alot more than I post.. here you go :)<br>

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Considering you don't have a 4x4, have a cookie. :D

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Yes I need to change my sig heeh .. I got one now .. that picture you posted just owned.. you win

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*snif snif* I'd like to thank all the fans, my manager, my friends, and my parents. Thank you, thank you all. :D :flipoff2:

Here's a flatbed Nissan GQ running on 40" ground Hawgs
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And a G60 Patrol on 44" boggers
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Down here they are the main choice for competion use like theoutback challenge (http://www.outbackchallenge.com.au/)

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PS.
Dont Take offense .. I was nto trashng Nissans I have just seen that topic over and over the last few weeks getting kinda old :)
If you wheel a nissan then more power to ya .. People wheeling nissans will make 4x4 parts makers realize "hey maybe we should make some kind of aftermarket for nissans now" who knows what could happen .. Happen .. I know you wheel a nissan and all I have to say is

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A couple more from Offroad Images (http://www.offroadimages.com.au) Check his site for some more great shots

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Originally posted by fenix
PS.
Dont Take offense .. I was nto trashng Nissans I have just seen that topic over and over the last few weeks getting kinda old :)
If you wheel a nissan then more power to ya .. People wheeling nissans will make 4x4 parts makers realize "hey maybe we should make some kind of aftermarket for nissans now" who knows what could happen .. Happen .. I know you wheel a nissan and all I have to say is



I don't. :) I'm getting tired of my Nissan. It breaks all the time (steering, suspension) and I don't have the greens to upgrade. :mad: My friend is trying to get me to sell my Pathy, and I might just do it. 5 grand would be great toward a Toyota... I wish I had a GQ though.

Ricer:D

I used to own a 87 toyota.. I got about 400 short of doing a SAS on it and sold it .. then bought a 83 CJ7 .. I am VERY happy with it .. buy a jeep :)

Originally posted by fenix
I used to own a 87 toyota.. I got about 400 short of doing a SAS on it and sold it .. then bought a 83 CJ7 .. I am VERY happy with it .. buy a jeep :)

I'm thinking an 83 or older ex cab Toy. Flat bed and exo it and I'd be happy. I see way too many people with jeeps.

I had a buddy that had a 83 toy mini short bed.. jet black .. Nice ride had 5 inches of lift and I think 33s .. he sold it for like 2 grand... god it was nice.. I wish I would bought that as well .. hehe I was with out a 4x4 so long cause I was stuck in a bind.. jeep or toy .. .. I just picked up the jeep 2 months ago .. Last time I went froading with MY OWN ride was Oct 2000.. Man its been to long . I have not yet in my current ride because in the last year they shut down my local trails and built houses on a little peice of under developed land that some of use would go to to test our mods out etc.. soooo I need to get a lift new tires lockers and gears on this jeep before I take it some where on a organized run with my old club

I didn't take time to read the whole topic... but here is a Pathfinder we build about a year and a half ago.

Driver - Tanner Dimick

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Originally posted by Old Scout
Ricer:D


LOL, I saw that truck in Rocklin a couple months ago... I wanted to get out and tell him his truck is a cannibal.

It dosen't matter what the hell you start out with.

Nissan, Toy, Jeep, suzuki

They all suck ass from the factory IFS or SA.

If you've replaced your 4.0 l inline in your Jeep with a Chevy 350 than isn't your rig part Chevy now?

How may guys have swapped a Dana 44 into thier down sized IFS equipped junk? Or an 8.8 to replace a dana 35?

They bottom line is that it dosen't matter a fawk what you started out with because most of the driveline and power train is coming out to make way for bigger stronger stuff.

If you drop a nissan on a Blazer frame, you no longer have a Nissan.

* please take note that the older full-sized Ford, Chevy, DOdge trucks already came with teh big stuff and are exempt from this rant.

so the answer to your question "why dosen't anybody fix up Nissans?"

can be applied to most any down sized rig...S10s, Rangers,

it's not what you bought, it's what you end up with.

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Try asking that question Here (http://www2.4x4parts.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi)

Nissan, Toy, Jeep, suzuki

They all suck ass from the factory IFS or SAS

So if they aren't IFS then they come from the factory with SAS (Solid Axle Swap). Ok I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and figure you meant (Solid Axle Sunspension), but still why would that suck from the factory:confused: :confused: Would you rather no axle:eek:

Or an 8.8 to replace a dana 30

I'll wager nobody on this one. The common 8.8 swap you're mentioning does not replace a Jeep dana 30.:laughing: :shaking: that would give you no steering, DAN.

Get your sh!t straight before you rant, or you just look like a DAN (Dumb Ass Newbie)

Just so you know, there isn't exactly and good tech on that link... No one knows the answers to axle swap questions, or custom suspensions, or anything like that. That's kinda why I came here...

Nissans Suck!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by bigdude




Get your sh!t straight before you rant, or you just look like a DAN (Dumb Ass Newbie)

yep..my bad. Thanks for the correction.

As far as a solid axle, yes of course it's better than IFS.

but I can't think of any factory solid axle rig built now or in the past that still doesn't suck ass for articulation or need lotsa room for improvement.

if your gonna chuck all the stuff and replace it anyways..does it matter what junk you are driving right now?
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Originally posted by steevil

I can't think of any factory solid axle rig built now or in the past that still doesn't suck ass for articulation or need lotsa room for improvement.

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Jeep Wrangler TJ. Take off the sway bars and it's pretty capable. Throw 2 grand worth of lift and tires into it and you can run just about any trail you want. :(:(

Originally posted by McSoo


Jeep Wrangler TJ. Take off the sway bars and it's pretty capable. Throw 2 grand worth of lift and tires into it and you can run just about any trail you want. :(:(

yeah..it's one of the better ones but once you start looking at lockers or any tire bigger than a 35" those axles gotta go.

The Rubicon with the Dana44's and lockers oughta be pretty interesting though.......
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by steevil
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yeah..it's one of the better ones but once you start looking at lockers or any tire bigger than a 33" those axles gotta go.

Any ranger or s10 or tacoma or xturd is any better? All of these you end up having you swap axles to get any travel out of the front. The TJ can come with a dana 44 rear and the 30 front uses 297 ujoints jut like a 44 does. No reason you couldnt run 35"s and lockers and run majority of the trails out there today. I know my stock ranger axles couldnt handle 31"s

Matt

Originally posted by RockRanger



Any ranger or s10 or tacoma or xturd is any better? All of these you end up having you swap axles to get any travel out of the front. The TJ can come with a dana 44 rear and the 30 front uses 297 ujoints jut like a 44 does. No reason you couldnt run 35"s and lockers and run majority of the trails out there today. I know my stock ranger axles couldnt handle 31"s

Matt

uh...I think you missed my point, yeah the TJ's better than most of the IFS junk but the bigger you wanna go, the less of the original rig is gonna be left.

My "stock" Ranger runs 35"s with no real issues yet. What kinda wheeling are you doing that's causing you to break with 31"s?
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Ask all the :rainbow: xterra club members my 11 year old son blew by driving my jeep last weekend at Sand Lake Oregon. I would have let my buddies two year old do it but he couldn't reach the pedels :D . American Nissans suck ass :flipoff2:, unless your hauling groceries.

Ask all the xterra club members my 11 year old son blew by driving my jeep last weekend at Sand Lake Oregon

It's gotta be the axles:D

yeah..it's one of the better ones but once you start looking at lockers or any tire bigger than a 33" those axles gotta go.

Again newb's you should get your facts straight. A TJ with stock 44 rear, 30 front, and mild lift will work hella good with 35's and not break much sh!t (if any). That's getting to be one of the most common vehicles on the trail nowadays, I hardly ever see them broke.

I see your point if we're talking about 37"+ tires, but for 35 down I think a stock TJ with a 44 rear is an awesome choice off the line.

(just arguing for the sake of arguing now:D )

Originally posted by McSoo

Hey RHINO, that Patrol you sold my friend apparantly has "lots of work to be done before it's trail safe"... HAHAHA What a joke. He told my roommate that he almost sold it for 1500 a few days ago because he rewired switches and couldn't get the wiring right..

mcsoo he was going to sell it for that?? hell i'll come up with that in a few weeks, i'll come pick it up and beat on it for a week out in arizona if i could get it for that...just so long as it's got one of the new xterra owners suck sticker on it :D

Originally posted by zeeto


mcsoo he was going to sell it for that?? hell i'll come up with that in a few weeks, i'll come pick it up and beat on it for a week out in arizona if i could get it for that...just so long as it's got one of the new xterra owners suck sticker on it :D

He's not gonna sell it now... Apparently he fixed it up. It still hasn't hit a trail yet though. Myself and everyone in SWANKy (SouthWest Adventure Nissan Klub) are predicting that it tips over on the first obstacle it hits... HAHAHA


Originally posted by Norm
Ask all the :rainbow: xterra club members my 11 year old son blew by driving my jeep last weekend at Sand Lake Oregon. I would have let my buddies two year old do it but he couldn't reach the pedels :D . American Nissans suck ass

That's hilarious about your sons...

As for sucking ass, Yup. We know that. We've known that since they hit the market back in the early 80's.

Originally posted by McSoo

He's not gonna sell it now... Apparently he fixed it up. It still hasn't hit a trail yet though. Myself and everyone in SWANKy (SouthWest Adventure Nissan Klub) are predicting that it tips over on the first obstacle it hits... HAHAHA


How long has he had that thing? over 2 months and it still hasn't seen a trail?! thats a fawking shame!!

Originally posted by bigdude


It's gotta be the axles:D



The axles are working out great, I'm pounding the shit out of them for you :D . The 4.88's and 33's are a great combo, a little low for the hi-way though :)

The Xterra group was a hoot, all dressed up spending most of their time posing for pictures. At least it kept them off the dunes, well mostly cause I had to pull a couple of them out when they couldn't figure out how to use a shovel ( or their gas pedals). And we didn't have to worry about them stealing our beer, cause it was Coors. So they are not to bad to wheel with :flipoff2:.

And we didn't have to worry about them stealing our beer, cause it was Coors

Good One, bawahahahahahaha.

Don't those xterd guys like "St. Paulie Girl" or something?

Originally posted by steevil


uh...I think you missed my point, yeah the TJ's better than most of the IFS junk but the bigger you wanna go, the less of the original rig is gonna be left.

My "stock" Ranger runs 35"s with no real issues yet. What kinda wheeling are you doing that's causing you to break with 31"s?


My point was that 35"s on a tj and stock drivetrain for the most part can still handle the tire without to much trouble. My stock ranger (86) I blew 3 axleshafts and a hub in 8 months with 31"s. Gotta love the dana 28 :nuke: WIth the new body style you have a 35 stock which I had to swap in and have nolonger had troubles with. I do mostly rocks and desert stuff. I think we are saying the same thing in different ways.

Matt

Im fairly sure there isnt much Nissan left on this truck
http://www.swmudrats.com/alex602/photogallery/images/454%20nissan_jpg.jpg

http://www.can4x4.com/irc/members/s1/andy2.jpg

Andy's Nissan works _very_ well.

Front 4 link coil with widened Toyota axle.
Chev 4.3L.
SM465, NP203, NP205
stock rear diff w/ Detroit (beefy axle)
36" SX's.

--Rob

Originally posted by 72zebra
Im fairly sure there isnt much Nissan left on this truck
http://www.swmudrats.com/alex602/photogallery/images/454%20nissan_jpg.jpg Hmm? Can you tell me how that axle is mated up to the transfercase? It is in the wrong place to be able to line up with the Nissan case.

Originally posted by ryeguy
http://www.can4x4.com/irc/members/s1/andy2.jpg

Andy's Nissan works _very_ well.

Front 4 link coil with widened Toyota axle.
Chev 4.3L.
SM465, NP203, NP205
stock rear diff w/ Detroit (beefy axle)
36" SX's.

--Rob I meant this pic, sorry.

Ok, I see it uses Chevy drivetrain, sorry. I am just looking to do a sas and am looking into all the links I can find. Can anyone link me to any sas stuff? Thanks.:smokin:

Here are some nissan links I used on our sas on our pathfinder. These should help alittle. www.PathFinderOffRoad.com and use off-road.coms bbs they have a nissan board. that is where a lot of nissan guys are.;)

If you guys want a SAS just build your own.I have told Mcsoo what I used on mine and he still hasn't done his, I think he's just looking for an excuse why he doesn't have one. :flipoff2: http://http://communities.msn.com/95HardbodyXEV6/brownscamp052502.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=171

My excuse? Funds... :( I'm workin on it... I got a job at Discount Tire... It's goin' slow, but it should be done by the end of the summer... :)

life expectancy of a Nissan Z-24 head gasket is 100,000 miles. Pretty lame but thats from Mitchel and all-data.

I seriously don't see how you guys can defend Dana 30s or 35s against 35 inch tires... that's a reciepe for carnage gumbo any day of the week. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Big Bad Pete
I seriously don't see how you guys can defend Dana 30s or 35s against 35 inch tires... that's a reciepe for carnage gumbo any day of the week. :flipoff2:

I defend them because I don't have them...... and I like to laugh at people when they break:D