: scout 800 build up!!!!!
BRAAAP41 09-19-2006, 07:35 PM well just got a alright scout for FREE!!!!! has a rebuilt engine tranny and new tranfer case seals the only thing wrong with it is the rearend needs a new ring and pinon not to bad for free runs real strong and not really all that rotted il post pics of it soon gonna build it up so stay tuned ohh yeah forgot to mention it has a 304 v 8 in it :flipoff2:
BLK Scout 800 09-19-2006, 08:00 PM What are the build specs? Goal weight? Tire size?
:bounce2: :bounce2: :bounce: :bounce2:
troutbum 09-19-2006, 08:30 PM Can it really be a build up with out the build?? I think what we have here is a good old fashion 'plan up'
Harvester of Sorrow 09-19-2006, 08:33 PM Can it really be a build up with out the build?? I think what we have here is a good old fashion 'plan up'
BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....:laughing:
Kind of what I was reading into this as well...
Snoopy 09-20-2006, 09:49 AM Alrighty then...what's the plans! Lets see some pictures!
BRAAAP41 09-20-2006, 02:41 PM plans are to lift it put some 37s on it and to clean it up ALOT going to make it my new trail truck cause my last one RIP 77 FORD F150 i rolled and broke it but one thing how do you post pics on here????? :D well im out to work on it sum more just now lifting it should be done this weekend:flipoff2: hopefully il no how to post pics by then
Snoopy 09-20-2006, 02:55 PM You got to buy a red star to post your own pictures, or you can upload them to your own hosting service and give URLs. Or you can email them to those of us who can post pictures.
Brandon 09-20-2006, 03:10 PM 37's? I wonder if your buildup is going to take longer than mine, I have about a 2 year head start on ya :p
BLK Scout 800 09-20-2006, 08:36 PM 37's? I wonder if your buildup is going to take longer than mine, I have about a 2 year head start on ya :p
LOL!
BRAAAP41 09-21-2006, 02:37 PM well good so snoopy i can send them to you and you can post them:confused:
nooblet 09-21-2006, 02:52 PM If Snoopy doesn't want to I will. I have plenty of space on my photobucket account and am not as busy as I imagine Snoopy is. Although, for the record, I would much rather you just buy a dam red star! :flipoff2:
$20 a year isn't asking too much, and look at all the awesome crap you can win over in general 4x4!
Chris
Snoopy 09-21-2006, 04:42 PM well good so snoopy i can send them to you and you can post them:confused:
Yupper. Snoopy@DandCExtreme.com will get them too me, if you can, resize them so I can pull them down easier, but if not, don't worry about it. I can resize and post when they get here.
MochaMike 09-22-2006, 07:42 AM If the rear is blown, you may consider swapping it out entirely...
IIRC 800 rear 44s are 16 spline.:barf:
ihochad 09-22-2006, 08:41 AM If the rear is blown, you may consider swapping it out entirely...
IIRC 800 rear 44s are 16 spline.:barf:
Late models are 30 spline flanged. 69's and 70's maybe some 68's
Creepy196 09-22-2006, 10:21 AM If the rear is blown, you may consider swapping it out entirely...
IIRC 800 rear 44s are 16 spline.:barf:
Early Scout 800 D44s are 19 spline, and more importantly (meaning worse), they have tapered shafts (like a D27 rear) with a seperate hub that's held on with a big nut and a large key (making the 'outer' section 'one spline'). :barf:
Most of the V8 Scout 800s got one piece flanged D44 shafts with 30 splines. They're basicaly the same as a Scout II D44 rear.
BRAAAP41 09-22-2006, 02:06 PM well the rearend just has some missing teeth it still works and hasnt broke yet but it will once i get some 37s under it :D but thnx snoopy il take some pictures as soon as the batteries charge in the camera and il keep posted ooorah cant wait till its done:grinpimp:
BRAAAP41 09-22-2006, 02:06 PM well the rearend just has some missing teeth it still works and hasnt broke yet but it will once i get some 37s under it :D but thnx snoopy il take some pictures as soon as the batteries charge in the camera and il keep posted ooorah cant wait till its done:grinpimp:
BRAAAP41 09-22-2006, 02:06 PM well the rearend just has some missing teeth it still works and hasnt broke yet but it will once i get some 37s under it :D but thnx snoopy il take some pictures as soon as the batteries charge in the camera and il keep posted ooorah cant wait till its done:grinpimp:
BRAAAP41 09-22-2006, 02:06 PM well the rearend just has some missing teeth it still works and hasnt broke yet but it will once i get some 37s under it :D but thnx snoopy il take some pictures as soon as the batteries charge in the camera and il keep posted ooorah cant wait till its done:grinpimp:
BLK Scout 800 09-22-2006, 02:41 PM Most of the V8 Scout 800s got one piece flanged D44 shafts with 30 splines. They're basicaly the same as a Scout II D44 rear.
I have a free one that works fine if anyone is on the hunt........It's 3.73 r&p
*note* I think the SII rear 44 is wider :confused:
BRAAAP41 09-23-2006, 08:35 AM yeah i think i found a d60 laying around at a shop here but i gotta ask for it not shure what it came out of but i was wondering would a 78ford f350 rearend do the trick????? not shure if the driveshft will hook up to it gotta look that and i dont know what the gearing in it is:barf: :jeep:
Creepy196 09-24-2006, 10:21 AM I have a free one that works fine if anyone is on the hunt........It's 3.73 r&p
*note* I think the SII rear 44 is wider :confused:
You're correct sir. The SII D44 rear is indeed a little wider than the Scout 800 rears. The diference is an inch or two IIRC.
On The 800 rears the spring perches are narrower, and in diferent locations. They use the same brakes (11"x1.75") as the early Scout II rears. Later SII D44 rears used 11"x2" brakes.
I'd wager that if you put your flanged 30 spline Scout 800 D44 rear in the classifieds on the B/B that someone would snatch it up. The only guy I know that'd want it is in Bakersfield. I'd be surprised if there's much interest here, although the stocker crowd does seem to be visiting more lately...
It's :cool2: for you to offer it up though. That'd rear would certainly be an upgrade for someone that has a Scout with a D27 or a 19 spline D44. Heck, if you put it in the general classifeds freebies here I'll bet there will be a few early-CJ5 guys that'd love to come get it to replace their 19spline D44s!
Creepy196 09-24-2006, 10:34 AM yeah i think i found a d60 laying around at a shop here but i gotta ask for it not shure what it came out of but i was wondering would a 78ford f350 rearend do the trick?????
not shure if the driveshft will hook up to it gotta look that and i dont know what the gearing in it is:barf: :jeep:
Minor issues that are easily solved. You'll have to weld on new spring perches. The DS will have to be shortened. Gear ratio can be changed...
Now, depending on the width of the D60 in question it probably won't match your front axle! :flipoff2:
If you're looking for a more bolt on-ish solution then may I direct you to BLK Scout 800's freebie axle. Get it regeared if you have too. Since you have a 304 powered Scout 800 you probably already have 3.73/1 gearing. Hint: Figure out what you have (read the tags, pull a cover and count teeth). Of course, if you already have a flanged 30 spline D44 rear then getting his axle will be no help. Again, figure out what you have! If you already have a flanged D44 rear then you need to instead turn your attention to replacing that closed knuckle D27/D30 front!!! :barf:
BRAAAP41 09-24-2006, 06:29 PM i think the front is a d44 but it could be a d30 and i was wondering i found some lift blocks that were about 6in tall for my scout and do think that it would put the driveshaft in a bine????
MochaMike 09-24-2006, 07:25 PM 6" blocks = Boom:barf:
BRAAAP41 09-24-2006, 07:31 PM what if i put some caster shims in it to take care of the driveshaft binding but i dont know how many degrees i should go any suggestions????
troutbum 09-24-2006, 07:34 PM from :rainbow: to :rainbow:er
Come awn 6" blocks, running a busted ring gear, woorying about a D60 bolting up to your U joints... please put down your tools.
BLK Scout 800 09-24-2006, 08:32 PM i was wondering i found some lift blocks that were about 6in tall for my scout and do think.......
what if i put some caster shims in it to take care of the driveshaft binding but i dont know how many degrees i should go any suggestions????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Just run it like it is man!!! Then fix what breaks so you get familiar with basic hand tools. :evil: :flipoff2: :evil:
Urban Wheeler 09-24-2006, 08:35 PM Run it small and learn how to wheel. Then build it up and learn all over again.
Creepy196 09-24-2006, 09:32 PM i think the front is a d44 but it could be a d30 and i was wondering i found some lift blocks that were about 6in tall for my scout and do think that it would put the driveshaft in a bine????
It ain't a D44 or a 'real' D30 unless it's swapped in. Scout 800s only had closed knuckle D27 fronts and "D30 axles with D27 ends" (IHC's language). The Scout 800 D30s are just D30 difs with the same tubes, inner/outer knuckles, and everything else from the D27.
Now a closed knuckle D44 (probably from an IH pickup/Travelall), or an open knuckle D30 or D44 (probably from a Scout II or Wagoneer) could have been swapped in sometime in the last 40 years.
What it boils down to is:
If it's closed knuckle swap it out. Closed knuckle fronts have crappy turning radiuses. The closed knuckle fronts are called '19 degree front axles' while the open knuckle axles are called '40 degree front axles' by IHC. It's an extremely noticable diference.
Also, if it's closed knuckle then it's most likely a D27 or D27/30 and is weak.
BTW-Mike's right. Blocks (especialy modo 6" blocks) are hyper :rainbow: and will cause way more problems (that can't be fixed with shims) than they solve. Yes they're cheap, but they aren't even worth the little $$$ that they cost. Buy a case of good :beer: with the 'block and shim money' and do some searching to read up on good Scout lifts. They don't have to be expensive...
On second thought...
Upon reading Josh and Matt's posts (while typing mine-I'm slow and I had to pause to go tuck in the youngster...) I have to agree with them. Don't swap anything for a while. Wheel it as is. Then you'll know what to replace.
The interesting thing will be seing whether the rear or front dies first. The front's weak, while the rear is hurtin' bad. "The rearend's just missing some teeth"??? You've gotta be kidding me. How did I miss that before??? :shaking:
BRAAAP41 09-25-2006, 05:40 AM im not going to wheel it the way it is its to dang low to the ground and since no-one likes the 6in blocks:eek: what if i went with some lift shackles?????? and if thats not a good way too go tell me the best lift kits for the best money out there:confused: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
crazy4ih 09-25-2006, 06:47 AM im not going to wheel it the way it is its to dang low to the ground and since no-one likes the 6in blocks:eek: what if i went with some lift shackles?????? and if thats not a good way too go tell me the best lift kits for the best money out there:confused: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
There are various ways to lift a scout 800. You can do a SOA (spring over axle) conversion fairly cheap if you have the right tools and have some fab skills, or you can buy a lift kit. Mr. Scout in Eugene oregon sells a 2-3" lift for 800's. Maybe give him a call. (541) 688-3232. I would'nt recommend lift shackles by themselves.
As far as other lift ideas....search here or www.binderbulletin.org or www.justih.org for what other people have done.
Brandon 09-25-2006, 08:58 AM two pages and no pics :rainbow:
How do you know it is too low? You don't know jack shit till ya use it
Snoopy 09-25-2006, 11:15 AM Here are some pictures.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=264881&stc=1&d=1159207985
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=264880&stc=1&d=1159207985
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=264878&stc=1&d=1159207985
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=264879&stc=1&d=1159207985
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=264877&stc=1&d=1159207985
Oh, and not to be a jerk, but if you put lift blocks on it, I'll make you post your own pics. :evil:
:D
ihochad 09-25-2006, 11:29 AM That thing is complete crap, I will come tow it out of your yard for you. Seriously, post that thing up on BB and double your money then find just a plain old 800 to build don't fuck that one up. It is a pretty rare Scout and someone with your skills is just going to turn it into a rolling pile of shit. I don't mean to be harsh but would hate to see that thing get tore up.
SCOUTMAN67 09-25-2006, 12:26 PM That thing is complete crap, I will come tow it out of your yard for you. Seriously, post that thing up on BB and double your money then find just a plain old 800 to build don't fuck that one up. It is a pretty rare Scout and someone with your skills is just going to turn it into a rolling pile of shit. I don't mean to be harsh but would hate to see that thing get tore up.
x eleventy billion. That's a collector's item, not a trail rig. If you want something to beat the crap out of and mutilate, I'll trade you straight across. :grinpimp: I'm not an IH purist by any means, but I know when to draw the line.
-Gary
Brandon 09-25-2006, 12:45 PM ok unrelated topic sorta, can you put sliding rear windows like that into an older 80? Me like..
ihochad 09-25-2006, 12:48 PM ok unrelated topic sorta, can you put sliding rear windows like that into an older 80? Me like..
Nope smaller window opening but you can swap out tops.
Brandon 09-25-2006, 12:57 PM Nope smaller window opening but you can swap out tops.
Good to know, let me know if you see one :grinpimp:
BRAAAP41 09-25-2006, 02:05 PM well i know its a rare collectors item but who cares i got it for free and its four wheel drive but does anyone think lift shackles will lift it right its a rolling rust bucket and its just sitting there rotting might as well wheel it :D :flipoff2: and if you want to buy it give me a price and il think about it
BRAAAP41 09-25-2006, 02:05 PM well i know its a rare collectors item but who cares i got it for free and its four wheel drive but does anyone think lift shackles will lift it right its a rolling rust bucket and its just sitting there rotting might as well wheel it :D :flipoff2: and if you want to buy it give me a price and il think about it
BRAAAP41 09-25-2006, 02:05 PM well i know its a rare collectors item but who cares i got it for free and its four wheel drive but does anyone think lift shackles will lift it right its a rolling rust bucket and its just sitting there rotting might as well wheel it :D :flipoff2: and if you want to buy it give me a price and il think about it
Brandon 09-25-2006, 02:14 PM if you want to wheel it wheel it, if you have to ask wether lift shackles will fit ya might want to spend some time with someone that has built some stuff or something or other.
You can make ANYTHING fit..
From what your posting I wouldn't start any spring over or axle swap etc cause your never going to finish it. Sell it and get a yota or just drive it..
SCOUTMAN67 09-25-2006, 03:13 PM well i know its a rare collectors item but who cares i got it for free and its four wheel drive but does anyone think lift shackles will lift it right its a rolling rust bucket and its just sitting there rotting might as well wheel it :D :flipoff2: and if you want to buy it give me a price and il think about it
You're right. Who cares? There's nobody in this world that cares about preserving a piece of IH history and wouldn't mind spending big $$ for that truck. Clean it up, detail it, put a rear end in it, put it on Ebay and prove me wrong.
Then, take that $$ and go out and buy an already built Jeep. You'll be a lot happier in the end.
-Gary
ihochad 09-25-2006, 04:03 PM You're right. Who cares? There's nobody in this world that cares about preserving a piece of IH history and wouldn't mind spending big $$ for that truck. Clean it up, detail it, put a rear end in it, put it on Ebay and prove me wrong.
Then, take that $$ and go out and buy an already built Jeep. You'll be a lot happier in the end.
-Gary
My turn x eleventy billion.
Trucks like this are just not found too often anymore. You could make a few bucks and let someone that would truly appreciate this thing enjoy it. Hell I am sure that I could hook you up with a very decent Scout II for what you could sell that thing for. Scout II are way easier to build and are much easier to come by. I am all for building up a early Scout but one in the kind of shape you have and as rare as it is just isn't right.
MochaMike 09-25-2006, 04:17 PM From what your posting I wouldn't start any spring over or axle swap etc cause your never going to finish it. Sell it and get a yota or just drive it..
Fixed it for you..... and X2
BRAAAP41 09-26-2006, 07:30 AM but i already havee blocks its rusted out and it will be the perfect trail vehicle so noone has answered my question how bout lift shackles cause me and a couple buddies did it to his f150 and it worked perfectly
Mechanos 09-26-2006, 08:01 AM Sounds like you've already made up your mind. And since you refuse any and all advice offered to you, just do whatever the hell you're gonna do and quit asking stupid questions.
That is all......
Snoopy 09-26-2006, 08:46 AM To a texan that's rusted, to everyone else, its rust free.
strobengh 09-26-2006, 09:23 AM but i already havee blocks its rusted out and it will be the perfect trail vehicle so noone has answered my question how bout lift shackles cause me and a couple buddies did it to his f150 and it worked perfectly
Like everyone is trying to tell you, go to BinderBulletin and list it in the for sale section . . . just try it and see the response you get.
You can probably even trade with someone over there for a more capable trail rig . . .
RustoleumWhite 09-26-2006, 09:39 AM Fine,
To answer your question, lift shackles are for fine tunning a lift or the performance of a longer than stock spring, NOT for big lift.
Blocks are :rainbow:, and in the front illegal in most states (FOR A REASON). Small blocks (like 1/2-2" MAX) in the back to level things out is OK. Yes I know TONS of folks have used bigger shackles, bigger blocks, and on the front even but that is not the 'correct' way of doing it when there are so many MUCH BETTER ways of doings it and getting better performance as well as Safety.
Sell it and get a Beat-to-Piss rig to hack on. Plenty of them out there. Heck I have a V-8, 4-speed Scout 800 in my yard that I would trade strait across for yours in a heart beat. Its not strait, its already got a roll-cage (tested :D), PERFECT canidate for a hard-core, wheel anything, built it up trail rig. But notice that it is NOT a rare rig in any sort, NOR is it strait and solid. There are plenty of 'trail ready' rigs out there, save the strait ones for people they care about them.
I smell a troll.......
Harvester of Sorrow 09-26-2006, 09:59 AM I think this guys should go fuck himself with a 14bolt shaft...leave the grease on the end...
Not for the reason that he has a rare early IH...(which even I agree should be in a collectors hands...god I can't believe I publicly admitted that:rolleyes: ) Nor for the reason of the use of LARGE LIFT BLOCKS :barf:
...I think he should sit and spin on a 35 spline because he comes here looking for advise...gets told by people with vast knowledge what is wrong with his plans...and he basically tells them to get bent...:shaking:
FUCK OF LITTLE BITCH
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Ronnie Scout 09-26-2006, 11:55 AM Here's a Comanche on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-INTERNATIONAL-SCOUT-800B-COMANCHE_W0QQitemZ130030892699QQihZ003QQcategoryZ8 4157QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) since you seem to be lacking in figuring these things out yourself...:rolleyes:
Edit: Auction's over, the Comanche referenced above sold for $3550....with crappy paint and some body damage and an allegedly good 232 engine....
troutbum 09-26-2006, 12:39 PM FUCK OF LITTLE BITCH
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Is that some kind of soup???:laughing: :laughing:
I agree with rusty...troll
nooblet 09-26-2006, 03:27 PM 3 pages and he still wants to either put blocks or lift shackles lol...
Chris
BLK Scout 800 09-26-2006, 03:38 PM FUCK OF LITTLE BITCH
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Is that some kind of soup???:laughing: :laughing:
mmmmmmmmmmm sounds good to me :flipoff2:
Ben W 09-26-2006, 03:57 PM Go ahead and install the blocks. Report back here with the pictures. I don't think you'll be clearing 37's though, some 155/80/13 whitewalls and gold wire wheels will probably be the only thing that fits.
ChiScouter 09-26-2006, 06:05 PM but i already havee blocks its rusted out and it will be the perfect trail vehicle so noone has answered my question how bout lift shackles cause me and a couple buddies did it to his f150 and it worked perfectly
How did you put lift shackles on a F150? between the coils and the coil buckets:confused: Or in the rear did you lengthen the tension shackles to gain lift:laughing:
Troll or retard, maybe both
BRAAAP41 09-26-2006, 07:31 PM :confused: alright anyone that wants to buy the damn thing be my guest i dont give a flying fuck about it tell me how much you would give for it and il gladly make a deal but dont call me a bitch or a troll im fucking 16 years old dont know all that much but love wheeling just asking some questions :mad3: :mad3: so all yall say is i would trade this are that im in stanton texas my number is 432-553-5041 and id be glad to trade it for a older style ford with straight axles and a nice body thats street legal or another scout till then im going to wheel it till the wheels fall off then scrap it so if you want to buy it or trade somthing for it bring the pink slips and il trade depending on how good the vehicle your going to trade for so what kinda lift do you think i should put on it i cant offord a leaf over axle so who makes a good brand
BLK Scout 800 09-26-2006, 07:42 PM But some spring perches and do a SOA so we can be done with this shit :evil: You need to be a lil more informed to be on this forum Pirate is more ''extreme'' than the other IH sites.
GOOD LUCK :flipoff2:
troutbum 09-26-2006, 07:50 PM bitchy troll, aint he? :laughing:
BRAAAP41 09-26-2006, 07:50 PM THANX blk for the info il do that and post some pics oooooRaH:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2
RustoleumWhite 09-26-2006, 08:40 PM You sounds 16.....
god was I that much of an ass when I was 16 :confused:
If you actually read and comprehend all the above posts you should be able to gather that your train of thought is the wrong way to go and you need to take the time and RESEARCH what you have, what you want and what good ways to achieve it in a safe and clean manner.
To be perfectly honest, I'd look for a Scout II, post '74. Much easier to build for a first timer, strong(er) components to begin with and many more parts available. 800's can/have been built up, but there is more work involved.
strobengh 09-27-2006, 05:35 AM Don't forget the spinners!
What do zuki's go for these days? That's how I got my start. Cheap, and PLENTY of parts . . .
IHblarp 09-27-2006, 09:18 AM sell it, wheel it, makes no REAL difference to me. But before you go throwing lift bloks and 10 inch shackles on it go wheel it how it is. then you will know how capable the thing is and where its downfall are. That will give you some time to really research this shit and pull your head out of your ass!!:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Mechanos 09-27-2006, 09:41 AM Sounds like the typical stary-eyed kid to me. No interest whatsoever in learning to drive offroad first, then increase the vehicles capability as his driving skills improve. Sounds like he sees big built rigs running cool extreme trails and wants to jump straight to the extreme stuff.
Muxley 09-27-2006, 09:42 AM Come on! Not a single person gave him the kick in the nutz that 6" blocks on an SUA setup will drop him 6" not give 6" of lift?
You're all slackin' this week! :shaking:
BRAAAP41 09-27-2006, 10:00 AM no it wont drop it its spring over axle everyone keeps telling me to do a soa conversion so il ost pics to show you all that its spring over axle might of came eith the comanche packge
BRAAAP41 09-27-2006, 10:00 AM no it wont drop it its spring over axle everyone keeps telling me to do a soa conversion so il ost pics to show you all that its spring over axle might of came eith the comanche packge
Muxley 09-27-2006, 10:07 AM My bad... didn't see anything about it being SOA already. Sure didn't see it in response to the suggestions to do an SOA that it was already SOA.
Guess it wouldn't hurt if you included information that might help you get a useful response. Ah screw it, what the hell do I know...
RustoleumWhite 09-27-2006, 10:19 AM no it wont drop it its spring over axle everyone keeps telling me to do a soa conversion so il ost pics to show you all that its spring over axle might of came eith the comanche packge
Post pictures, cause from the pics that Snoop posted for you that is NOT a SOA rig. Too low, looks stock hight with stock (sized) tires.
Prove me wrong, I don't mind, but form the picture evidence you have given sure don't looks already SOA to me.
Snoopy 09-27-2006, 10:28 AM I was holding out, but it seems like 3 pages of crap with no end in site. Will someone let me know when tech appears here? Thanks!
:evil:
BRAAAP41 09-27-2006, 10:43 AM sorry for not saying it was a soa the reason its so low is because all the tires are flat :D so because its a soa what kind of suspension lift should i use i was thinking one from dandcextreme.com they look like a good all round suspension but if i lift it six inches do you all think the DS will bind up or do you think i should get a cv DS :confused:
Brandon 09-27-2006, 11:07 AM can we just ban this clown allready?
Diesel Smoke 09-27-2006, 11:22 AM Sounds like the typical stary-eyed kid to me. No interest whatsoever in learning to drive offroad first, then increase the vehicles capability as his driving skills improve. Sounds like he sees big built rigs running cool extreme trails and wants to jump straight to the extreme stuff.
Dude, he's 16, he's got the whole world figured out and doesn't need some "Old Men" telling him what to do. He knows all, why should he learn from other's experiences? He wants one of them truck he sees in the magazines!!!
can we just ban this clown allready?
:laughing: :laughing:
nooblet 09-27-2006, 11:41 AM I wish Old Scout would lock this thread so I don't have to try to stop myself from reading it lol...
Just do what you want with it, but from now on post stuff in the newb forum, you'll get more answers and less flaming, then agian your prolly a troll and thats what your looking for...who knows. Nothing your doing is IHC specific enough to warrent posting in this forum FYI.
Chris
EDIT: OH GOD I STARTED PAGE 4 WHAT HAVE I DONE???? :flipoff2:
Sully 09-27-2006, 12:25 PM Everyone wants to save this Commanche...
I for one would love to see it built with a half assed SOA on the stock axles, no castor adjustments, cut and welded Z-link, stupid huge lift blocks, schedule-40 roll bar, and rolled directly off a cliff when it didn't drive worth a shit.
Provided of course that the dumbass kid who started this thread gets his melon crushed in the ensuing wreck. That would be worth it to me.
SCOUTMAN67 09-27-2006, 12:27 PM sorry for not saying it was a soa the reason its so low is because all the tires are flat :D so because its a soa what kind of suspension lift should i use i was thinking one from dandcextreme.com they look like a good all round suspension but if i lift it six inches do you all think the DS will bind up or do you think i should get a cv DS :confused:
Please punctuate your posts. Thank you.
If it is SOA, that's the lowest SOA I've ever seen. Those look like 235/75's or similiar and even the top of those small of tires when flat would be about a foot below the fenderwell in a SOA application. Are the springs above or below the axles? Maybe you're confused as to what a SOA actually is and afraid to ask a question??? :confused:
Does it have the stock axles in it? If so, they are junk for an SOA application. Read up on articles about closed-knuckle vs. open-knuckle axles and "cut and turn" and you'll get the idea.
If you lift the truck 6" from where it is now, do *YOU* think the d/s will bind? Try disconnecting the front driveshaft from the axle and lower it down 6". That will be the ride angle. Lower it another 3-4" past that for flex and that's what you want to check. If it binds that low...well...there's your answer. BTW, a CV shaft has a hair LESS working angle than a standard shaft.
I still think you should sell that Scout to a collector and build/buy something that will be easier for you to work on...like a Jeep CJ or something like that where there is an extensive aftermarket and everything bolts right together so even someone with a 115 piece Craftsman tool set and no experience can build it.
-Gary
BRAAAP41 09-27-2006, 02:32 PM the spring are over the axles so disconnect the D/S and lower it down 6 inches and 4 inches past that il do that this weekend as of right now im rebuilding the starter cause it went to crap on me :barf: so il keep updating
Diesel Smoke 09-27-2006, 02:40 PM the spring are over the axles so disconnect the D/S and lower it down 6 inches and 4 inches past that il do that this weekend as of right now im rebuilding the starter cause it went to crap on me :barf: so il keep updating
http://babyjesuscryswhenyouspam.us/English_Motherfucker_Do_You_Speak_It.jpg
You let your starter crap on you? You are one sick fellow.
nooblet 09-27-2006, 02:46 PM Everyone wants to save this Commanche...
I for one would love to see it built with a half assed SOA on the stock axles, no castor adjustments, cut and welded Z-link, stupid huge lift blocks, schedule-40 roll bar, and rolled directly off a cliff when it didn't drive worth a shit.
Provided of course that the dumbass kid who started this thread gets his melon crushed in the ensuing wreck. That would be worth it to me.
Lol I think we have a winner for the best flame so far. :flipoff2:
Chris
binderbound 09-27-2006, 03:41 PM So far all I can gather from this thread is BRAAAAAAP is a poor, dumb, high school kid from jerk water Texas. He wants an extreme truck without spending any money, doing any reasearch, or waste any time thinking. Its obvious his parents neglected him, he was beat up in elementry school, and has no girlfriend now. We need to call in an air strike on his town cuz it sounds like there are more of people like him there(lifting an F-150 with shackles:confused: )
Wash that truck, put it on E-bay and buy this. It screams your name:rolleyes:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7128/scarydodge6sw2.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6116/scarydodge4xa3.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8044/scarydodge3zf8.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7388/scarydodge2xw6.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8233/scarydodge1ev5.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7809/scarydodge5vt0.jpg
IHC-6 09-27-2006, 04:44 PM Hopefully his parents will realize that the best thing they could do for the lad is to take the Scout away and buy him that Dihatsu Rocky they saw on the corner with the new soft-top :D :rolleyes:
Seriously, get rid of the Scout, you are not ready for the busted-knuckle world of IHC.
IHblarp 09-27-2006, 05:00 PM I wish Old Scout would lock this thread so I don't have to try to stop myself from reading it lol...
......EDIT: OH GOD I STARTED PAGE 4 WHAT HAVE I DONE???? :flipoff2:
HaHAHA I feel your pain And yet im still talkin shit.:laughing:
BRAAAAAP, you seriously need to go spend some time reading/asking questions over at the binder bulletin site. They are much more tolorant of ignorant fucks who dont listen, besides someone might also spend some time to walk you through the basics of what your asking, rather than just tell you how dumb you are. In the mean time go out and spend about three hours laying under your scout and really looking at things. If you still believe your springs rest on top of the axle than you should sell the scout, buy the dodge and show it off to all your f150 pals. They'll shit their pants cause you got the coolest truck on the block:flipoff2:
now i really need to quit reading this thread, it seriously makes me want to shoot myself:evil: :evil: :evil:
Diesel Smoke 09-27-2006, 05:13 PM HaHAHA I feel your pain And yet im still talkin shit.:laughing:
BRAAAAAP, you seriously need to go spend some time reading/asking questions over at the binder bulletin site. They are much more tolorant of ignorant fucks who dont listen,:evil:
Don't tell him that!! We don't want him over there either, unless he's planning on selling and making a boat load of cash.
IHC-6 09-27-2006, 05:17 PM Don't tell him that!! We don't want him over there either, unless he's planning on selling and making a boat load of cash.
Ditto on that sentiment.
ChiScouter 09-27-2006, 05:46 PM Don't tell him that!! We don't want him over there either, unless he's planning on selling and making a boat load of cash.
He is no worse than that retarded IH64scout punk that posts about every 30 seconds. I think they would make a fitting pair:laughing:
scout254 09-27-2006, 11:54 PM ok this thread is getting :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:
Mechanos 09-28-2006, 06:50 AM ok this thread is getting :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:
What do you mean getting :rainbow: ....... it started out :rainbow: back in post #1 with "well..."
troutbum 09-28-2006, 07:29 AM HAHAHA even the fawking BB doesn't want this asshat...that is the worst insult yet,:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: owned by the BB....priceless
BLK Scout 800 09-28-2006, 08:55 AM ok this thread is getting :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:
Always was :rolleyes: :flipoff2:
Diesel Smoke 09-28-2006, 10:28 AM He is no worse than that retarded IH64scout punk that posts about every 30 seconds. I think they would make a fitting pair:laughing:
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
misterfubar 09-28-2006, 02:19 PM Ok, I just read this whole thing and all I got out of it is that lift blocks are bad and that in a SOA the Spring is OVER the axle.
So if I use blocks on a stock Scout it will actually lower it right? :rolleyes:
Brandon 09-28-2006, 03:44 PM yep, and come awn someone has to have something worthy of posting, the :rainbow: threads are getting old..
uglyscout 09-28-2006, 04:11 PM I think we were all correct in our assesment of this guy...
16 year old punk...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=28280541
A google search of his screen name leads you to some places that I couldn't even open at work :eek:
binderbasher 09-28-2006, 06:38 PM You should "slam it" and put some 22 inch spinners on it. That will go good with some 15" subs, and lots of chrome:laughing:
binderbound 09-29-2006, 06:11 AM I think we were all correct in our assesment of this guy...
16 year old punk...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=28280541
A google search of his screen name leads you to some places that I couldn't even open at work :eek:
That wanna-be Surefire was almost so bright I couldn't see his moms hand me down curtains in the single wide.
Dood, your dad should have pulled out. :rolleyes:
misterfubar 09-29-2006, 08:17 AM yep, and come awn someone has to have something worthy of posting, the :rainbow: threads are getting old..
Give me a month or two, I might actually have some tech to post, or atleast some not quite so :rainbow: questions.
IHblarp 09-29-2006, 08:48 AM Dood, your dad should have pulled out. :rolleyes:
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :flipoff2:
misterfubar 09-29-2006, 08:52 AM This guy is the reason I am an advocate for post-birth abortions. I think they should be allowed all the way up to the 72nd trimester.
conflused 09-29-2006, 02:50 PM you guys are way f'ed up i mean i know the kids an idiot, but in about 20 years there wont be as many people in the sport and hobby, when i was 16 and people where dickheads to me i woulda stoped wheeling, now im making a living in the automotive industry so give the kid some slack, i remember when i was his age my older friends made this forum seem like the coolest fucking thing ever and you just fucked his hopes and dreams so in his deffence fuck you guys and if you live near san jose ca and have a problem with what i said we can meet and ill beat your ass, by the wayto the person who started this thread read up on shit before posting and if you arent going to take people good advice then dont ask stupid ass questions
Harvester of Sorrow 09-29-2006, 03:12 PM you guys are way f'ed up i mean i know the kids an idiot, but in about 20 years there wont be as many people in the sport and hobby, when i was 16 and people where dickheads to me i woulda stoped wheeling, now im making a living in the automotive industry so give the kid some slack, i remember when i was his age my older friends made this forum seem like the coolest fucking thing ever and you just fucked his hopes and dreams so in his deffence fuck you guys and if you live near san jose ca and have a problem with what i said we can meet and ill beat your ass, by the wayto the person who started this thread read up on shit before posting and if you arent going to take people good advice then dont ask stupid ass questions
Why don't you go stuff your cock in your ass...fill yourself with manranch and choke you fucking bitch...
You have 4 posts of no-content value...telling people who have tried to give good advice to the little no respect having punk bitch, that you will kick their ass....:confused:
Why don't you pm the kid and meet up on myspace...go to a hotel...and express your true love for him...
:shaking:
Brandon 09-29-2006, 03:53 PM sounds like you shoulda stopped wheeling..
When I was 16 I did what I enjoyed because I enjoyed it - not because everyone else did. In fact I was the ONLY wheeler in my high school ;)
ChiScouter 09-29-2006, 04:05 PM Be careful brandon he might come up and kick your ass, he sounds like a man of action :goofball: You too HOS:laughing: I feel safe im too far away:D
Harvester of Sorrow 09-29-2006, 04:12 PM Be careful brandon he might come up and kick your ass, he sounds like a man of action :goofball: You too HOS:laughing: I feel safe im too far away:D
Hey you :flipoff2: you get my PM...? Give me your address...I owe you for the package you sent me...:smokin:
budget76 09-29-2006, 08:54 PM sounds like you shoulda stopped wheeling..
When I was 16 I did what I enjoyed because I enjoyed it - not because everyone else did. In fact I was the ONLY wheeler in my high school ;)
Same here. only wheeler in high school, drive the oldest car/truck out of anyone, and drive it with no top or doors when its fawkin 40 outside:laughing: yeah, i'm only 17:flipoff2: :p
nooblet 09-29-2006, 10:10 PM The only thing that pisses me off about this thread is that its on page 5 and I can't stop reading it! :flipoff2:
I got flamed on my first thread here and I'm still hanging around. Crazy me....I learned from the experience instead of bitching about it :shaking:
Chris
BRAAAP41 09-30-2006, 08:05 AM all yall fuckers are just pissed cause i got a way rare scout and yall dont :flipoff2:
binderbound 09-30-2006, 08:29 AM You think we don't have rare scouts?
We are picking on you because you are a fuck stick. Your a worthless piece of shit that shouldn't have made it past your 2nd birthday. No, this has nothing to do with the rig, but more with your shining personality. You should suck on the business end of a 12 gauge. Maybe do some rope stands. Better yet, next time your sucking your boyfriends kawk, just have him choke you out with his meat flute.
Fuck you very much.
You think we don't have rare scouts?
We are picking on you because you are a fuck stick. Your a worthless piece of shit that shouldn't have made it past your 2nd birthday. No, this has nothing to do with the rig, but more with your shining personality. You should suck on the business end of a 12 gauge. Maybe do some rope stands. Better yet, next time your sucking your boyfriends kawk, just have him choke you out with his meat flute.
Fuck you very much.
Don't hold back now. Tell him how you really feel. Kid, before you do anything to your scout, you should buy one thing. Go out and buy a clue. Get some common sense before you even pick up a wrench, or the mouse to post here again.
BLK Scout 800 09-30-2006, 11:24 AM Now boys you need to calm down and realize that if you were wheelin you would have no time to bicker like this on-line...........
Move on the show was over waaaaayyyyy back on pg 2 :flipoff2:
MochaMike 09-30-2006, 11:55 AM Move on the show was over waaaaayyyyy back on pg 2 :flipoff2:
If you change your viewing preferences, this thread is only up to page 3 1/2.:flipoff2:
You know what BRAAAP41, most of the guys on here don't really know jack shiat (me being one of them). They have never really wheeled, in fact they are expert web wheelers. You will forget more then they collectively know after your first bong hit (or your first 6 pack of Coorslight).
Ignore what they say, put those 6 inch blocks in to match those long ass shackles so that you can clear those way huge 37s on the stock axles......
Just make sure you get some pix of your first trip out to show everyone how little they know.
nooblet 09-30-2006, 02:16 PM If you change your viewing preferences, this thread is only up to page 3 1/2.:flipoff2:
You know what BRAAAP41, most of the guys on here don't really know jack shiat (me being one of them). They have never really wheeled, in fact they are expert web wheelers. You will forget more then they collectively know after your first bong hit (or your first 6 pack of Coorslight).
Ignore what they say, put those 6 inch blocks in to match those long ass shackles so that you can clear those way huge 37s on the stock axles......
Just make sure you get some pix of your first trip out to show everyone how little they know.
Heeeyyyy there is nothing wrong with Rocky Mountian Cool-aid...back off buddy :flipoff2:
Creepy196 09-30-2006, 04:35 PM you guys are way f'ed up i mean i know the kids an idiot, but in about 20 years there wont be as many people in the sport and hobby, when i was 16...
Three whole years ago... That's how you can refer to him as a 'kid'. :crybaby:
...and people where dickheads...
I don't know...where dickheads???
...to me i woulda stoped wheeling, now im making a living in the automotive industry so give the kid some slack, i remember when i was his age...
Oh so long ago...
...my older friends made this forum seem like the coolest fucking thing ever and you just fucked his hopes and dreams...
:crybaby2:
Wow... A few truthful posts in response to his stupid questions and subsequent ramblings and his 'hopes and dreams' are 'fucked'??? If that's all it would have taken for you, then someone definately missed a golden opertunity to keep one seriously :rainbow: tool (you) away from anything remotely involved with 'the automotive industry'. Are your 'older friends' also your special friends???
What exactly do you do 'in the automotive industry'??? I hope it's not anything more critical than sweeping out bays and delivering/picking up parts. I pray nobody's paying an ignorant, illeterate, assinine punk (you) to do anything that could affect somone's safety... :eek:
Let me guess. You work for your dad or one of his friends...
...so in his deffence...
Nice spelling...
...fuck you guys and if you live near san jose ca and have a problem with what i said we can meet and ill beat your ass...
:laughing:
You have no idea who you're talking to do you? Read the 'Wenzel' thread in the 'bad sellers' forum.
Oh, and who's 'ill'???
...by the wayto...
WTF does 'wayto' mean???
...the person who started this thread read up on shit before posting...
You mean your buddy BRAAP??? His posts certainly prove your opinion of his research. :shaking:
He should have 'read up' on Scouts (and 4X4s in general) on this board and in this forum (instead of reading up on 'shit'...and golden showers) BEFORE starting this :rainbow: thread.
...and if you arent going to take people good advice then dont ask stupid ass questions
Who is that directed at, and what the hell does it mean??? Lay off the rock punk... :clown2:
thanks chvy boat, for sticking up for fullsize and long wheel base rigs, im a fsb driver, and ive gone allover rubicon, and moab never been to dussy, and im not un educated or ignorant, i used to wheel a fj40, on 35, stock axles and stock engine, alot of trimming and a small lift, so i know how both are, and the land rover will be fine
That certainly proves that you're not 'un educated or ignorant'. How do ingnorant turds (such as BRAAP, Cdubzon40s, and yourself) get through high school? You have no concept of grammar, and you can't spell, punctuate, or even form a coherant sentance. You have the judgment and self control of a three year old (maybe). :rolleyes:
Sully 09-30-2006, 04:55 PM when i was 16 and people where dickheads to me i woulda stoped wheeling,
Pussy.
BLK Scout 800 09-30-2006, 05:56 PM Pussy.
:laughing:
SCOUTMAN67 10-02-2006, 08:48 AM Just make sure you get some pix of your first trip out to show everyone how little they know.
And then sell it to me for $100 after the thing ends up being a piece of shit, everyone laughs at you because you have no reading comprehension or mechanical skills to research and then build accordingly, therefore you get out of the hobby and you get a Honda Civic for free and think this is the coolest thing ever.... :D
http://www.laughatrice.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/g49p01.jpg
BRAAAP41 10-03-2006, 02:16 PM hey fuck you i got the damn thing running if you want to really buy it i havent done anything to it since i got the thing running im going to sell it if you want come buy it $3000 thats it until then shut you fucking trap before i stomp a mudhole in it and fuck honda civics i drive a powerstroke my number is 432-553-5041 call me if your interested in buying it :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Sully 10-03-2006, 02:49 PM hey fuck you i got the damn thing running if you want to really buy it i havent done anything to it since i got the thing running im going to sell it if you want come buy it $3000 thats it until then shut you fucking trap before i stomp a mudhole in it and fuck honda civics i drive a powerstroke my number is 432-553-5041 call me if your interested in buying it :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
This seems like a really good time to turn the thread over to the wolves in chit-chat. :evil:
nooblet 10-03-2006, 04:08 PM If there wasn't enough prove to him being an idiot...he just gave out his phone number....I hope for his sake its not actually his phone number.
P.S. Like driving a powerchoke is going to gain you any respect here :flipoff2:
Chris
Brandon 10-03-2006, 04:34 PM I guess some people think you got something but I wouldn't give you $5 for it. Good luck
Sully 10-03-2006, 04:45 PM I hope for his sake its not actually his phone number.
I hope it is. Why do you think I quoted him so he couldn't delete it later? :evil:
Brandon 10-03-2006, 04:59 PM (432) 553-5041 is a cell phone based in Terminal, TX
The registered service provider is Southwestern Bell Wireless, Llc**.
misterfubar 10-03-2006, 10:59 PM That makes me wish I had a phone.
nooblet 10-04-2006, 12:06 AM I hope it is. Why do you think I quoted him so he couldn't delete it later? :evil:
Your like pure evil. Can i be your friend? :flipoff2:
Chris
binderbasher 10-04-2006, 08:45 AM I think this rabbit has been tore to pieces, eaten by the coyotes and sprayed on some sage brush to dry. Of course theres always room for leftovers:evil:
Oh page 6. Might as well call this novel Mobys Dick
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