: Automatic Rebuild Q's


jdjanda
04-29-2002, 11:45 AM
I've been searching high and low, but have not found much information on the Internet regarding high performance 727 rebuild information. I know someone will point out some information I should have obviously found :rolleyes: Rebuild will be in the range of 500 bones, I'd love to add the RV gear set, but I don't think I'll have the extra money to invest :( While I'm into the tranny, I'll firm up the shifts, manual body (first and second) D will still be full auto. I'll be selling the parts I've amassed for the manual, bell housing, flywheel, pedal assembly, linkage, T98 tranny, extra case, T18 top cover for reverse, etc. I also found a few additional odds and ends not included in my list, heavy duty thrust washer, 4.7 intermediate band apply lever, either of these two worth the trouble? I'll of course be running a remote cooler, temp gauge, and extended breather.

Here is the list of sheet I plan use for my rebuild.

$30.00 remote Filter Kit
$50.00 Mopar Performance Pan with extended pickup
$175.00 TCI Super Rebuild Kit
$25.00 Rebuild Manual
Two options for the TC
TCI High Torque $221.99, stall around 1,800 range
Mopar Performance $235.00 claimed 1300-1700 stall


Just to confirm IH uses a 27 spline TC:question:

ol John Henry
04-29-2002, 11:55 AM
Pony up the extra dough and get the gear set while your in there.. and yes on the 27

Snoopy
04-29-2002, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by jdjanda
Two options for the TC
TCI High Torque $221.99, stall around 1,800 range
Mopar Performance $235.00 claimed 1300-1700 stall
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Good move to go with the higher stall converter, it allows you to finesse your way over things while keeping your RPM in the power bands. The low stalls tend to make you floor it to get the TC to give you enough *umph* at the low RPMs. Higher stalls let the engine rev to where it wants to be (just below 2000) and then lock up, therefore you'll be able to baby how fast and how much *umph* you put behind your wheels.

Just to confirm IH uses a 27 spline TC:question:
"The auto is." ~ Yoda

We also carry bolt-in sprags and lower gears for the TF727.

Let me know if you want some.

Chad H
04-29-2002, 01:02 PM
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Here is the list of sheet I plan use for my rebuild.

$30.00 remote Filter Kit
$50.00 Mopar Performance Pan with extended pickup
$175.00 TCI Super Rebuild Kit
$25.00 Rebuild Manual
Two options for the TC
TCI High Torque $221.99, stall around 1,800 range
Mopar Performance $235.00 claimed 1300-1700 stall


Dont forget Bands, the rebuild "kits" dont always come with it, sometimes...
Then ya have the bushings, seems ya never get em all, piston seals, plus a few others I have a hangover brain wont turn on yet........:flipoff2:

tsm1mt
04-29-2002, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Snoopy

Good move to go with the higher stall converter, it allows you to finesse your way over things while keeping your RPM in the power bands. The low stalls tend to make you floor it to get the TC to give you enough *umph* at the low RPMs. Higher stalls let the engine rev to where it wants to be (just below 2000) and then lock up, therefore you'll be able to baby how fast and how much *umph* you put behind your wheels.


Ummm.. yeah, but a higher stall converter, and using it like you've described, is also a great way to make some heat inside the tranny.

I guess it's not that bad if you like to rebuild autos...

Joe - have you considered the Jeep tailhousing and a Jeep 300 with this swap? Inexpensive, and you're ready for the Atlas everyone loves to push (raise your hand if you have stock in AA..)

Or better yet, a Klune-V like Scoutaholic runs.

I like my stock converter for wheelin' - and it helps with compression braking, too.

Get the Kevlar clutches. :)

There are other tricks a good tranny guy could help you with.. servo upgrades/repairs, better bands like Chad mentioned..

Tony Sobrito
04-29-2002, 02:09 PM
can anyone confirm if their is a difference between stall speeds in scouts vs truck/travelalls? It sure feels like the truck/TA has a higher stall speed but I dont know for sure.. thanks.

jdjanda
04-29-2002, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by tsm1mt

Joe - have you considered the Jeep tailhousing and a Jeep 300 with this swap? Inexpensive, and you're ready for the Atlas everyone loves to push (raise your hand if you have stock in AA..)


Would be ideal, but the prices have gone through the roof lately, all around $300.00


Originally posted by tsm1mt

Or better yet, a Klune-V like Scoutaholic runs.


Send the check my way please :D

tsm1mt
04-29-2002, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by jdjanda


Send the check my way please :D

Oh, that was for you?

Sorry.. I spent it.

at least I got a straight rust-free'74 100 4x4 w/ IC392/auto...

and a 3spd Brownie for my crewcab.

Sorry. :flipoff2:

NotQuiteSane
04-30-2002, 08:05 AM
Joe,

If I can find it, You can have my how-to video on the 727 for whatever it cpsts to get it to ya

NQS

Old Scout
04-30-2002, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by NotQuiteSane
Joe,

If I can find it, You can have my how-to video on the 727 for whatever it cpsts to get it to ya

NQS

DOOOOOH I have a video as well. I'll leave it at Josh's place when I pick-up the keg.

jdjanda
04-30-2002, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Old Scout


DOOOOOH I have a video as well. I'll leave it at Josh's place when I pick-up the keg.

Cool deal, works for me. I'll make a copy and return the original when I see you on the Con in July:D

NQS thanks for the offer, I'll try local first :cool:

jdjanda
04-30-2002, 10:46 AM
OK talked to the boys at JVX Racing. All the do is Mopar Autos Got the scope on what they sell and recommend.

Here is the link
http://www.jvxracing.com

According to them ideal would be

Rebuild Kit with Kevlar $169.00
Valve body kit $80.00
Rebuild TC $120.00
Kevlar Rear Band $35.00
Low 2.74 Gear set $425.00
High Capacity Pan $50.00
Remote Oil Filter $30.00
Rebuild Manual $30.00
Total $939.00 :eek:


If I pull the 2.77 gear set then I'll save almost half. OS if you come across any more sets let me know.

Joe

Hayraker
04-30-2002, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by jdjanda

Low 2.74 Gear set $425.00


Joe

Thats not much of a reduction for $425, I think I would spend my money on something else.

troutbum
04-30-2002, 04:20 PM
I agree high stall = high heat, and heat is the enemy.,,,

Hooper
04-30-2002, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Hayraker


Thats not much of a reduction for $425, I think I would spend my money on something else.

That's what I was thinking when i opted not to put in the lower gear set. Lots of $$, not much result.