Nada on the search. Anyway I am moving to CA this weekend. My question is what am I looking at that needs to be done to my YJ to get it to pass. It is a 94 4.0, 121K, 3 year old cat, 2 chamber flowmaster, yeah yeah, and new exhaust manifold. From what I have been told the flowmaster alone is a failer. So what will I need to do other than get a stock muff on it to pass it? I already know I need to find a small set of tires to get it to pass the height requirements. Any info is greatly appreciated :rasta:

Who the hell told you that a flowmaster and big tires were illegal? Tell them to stop smoking crack :smokin: . There is nothing illegal about a flowmaster and big tires. What part of Cali, are you moving to?

Originally posted by scramblin
Who the hell told you that a flowmaster and big tires were illegal? Tell them to stop smoking crack :smokin: . There is nothing illegal about a flowmaster and big tires. What part of Cali, are you moving to?

I did not think that the flowmaster was a problem but it is all a bunch of fockers that USED to live there telling me that. So I am not taking their word for it. I will be in San Francisco. As for the tires I was talking about bumper height. I was told 30":confused:

Nevermind, I am figuring it out. For anyone else who ever needs info then CA emission info (http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/stdpage.asp?BODY=/CONSUMER/BRINGING_A_CAR_TO_CALIFORNIA.HTM) :flipoff2:

if ya got time to drive up to sacramento, ca bring it on by i'll smog it. if it wont pass i'll tell what ya need to get it to pass. as for the flowmaster and tires. it doesnt make a difference. if you want to bring it by email me at JP4WHLR95@AOL.COM

im glad we dont have all those dam test in Louisiana, if we did they would impound 2/3 of the vehicles on the road, it seems like every truck around here has grips(usualy only in the back), and pipes, i love seeing those old rust buckets that these old guys never stop driving

Originally posted by YJ_Swamper
im glad we dont have all those dam test in Louisiana, if we did they would impound 2/3 of the vehicles on the road, it seems like every truck around here has grips(usualy only in the back), and pipes, i love seeing those old rust buckets that these old guys never stop driving


Grips:confused: pipes:confused: You guys sure talk funny.




Ask Paul Nasvik if he gets hassled in the city for having a real wheeler. It might be one place you might. Then again who knows. Out here where the regular :flipoff2: people live no one cares.

HMMMM, Welcome to the cheapest place to live in the country!:flipoff2: Better get out on the corner and start making some $$$$$ to pay for that rent.

:rainbow:

Your just getting here and I'm hauling ass outa here.:D

Originally posted by Mayhem


I did not think that the flowmaster was a problem but it is all a bunch of fockers that USED to live there telling me that. So I am not taking their word for it. I will be in San Francisco. As for the tires I was talking about bumper height. I was told 30":confused:
kev,
If you want to get technical, I THINK, the bumper height in CA is 27". As far as the flowmaster, it doesnt matter what friggin muffler its got on it. Tires don't matter either. Heck, Im running about 6" of lift, and 35's with NO flares to top it all off, and I still passed smog.. oh yeah.. I have a flowmaster too. Id just bring it out. It should pass no problem.
Scott

YOu mean service stations actually check that shit? Must be a California thing............ are ya'll sure there are no local places that just kinda blow it off. Thats where I go to get mine. They look at it through the store window, and check it off.... Texas is great

Flow master no problem, the muffler is not filtering hte exhaust fumes, it makes no difference. I would say make sure it is running right. If you need to be tuned up, or it is running rich or might get some shit for that.

As far as finding a local guy to over look somethings, you just cant find them.

The gov has threatened to take their buisness license away if they cheat. Also the entire thing is computerized. You have to type in the vin number and hook the hose up to the car and the computer, which are wired to the state computer which keeps track of our records. I guess you might be able to stick a different rig that is the saem make and model in the computer? I have also heard that th plug into the computer on late model rigs and the computer so that makes it even harder to cheat.


Oh weel I guess maybe one out of the 50 states is thinking about teh environment in 50 years. I personally dont want to be out jeeping, and climb my favorite trail, only to look down and see a SMOG covered valley!

Tony

Oh weel I guess maybe one out of the 50 states is thinking about teh environment in 50 years. I personally dont want to be out jeeping, and climb my favorite trail, only to look down and see a SMOG covered valley!

Yeah, i understand that. I lived in Houston all my life, and I never noticed the pollution, and when I go back, I notice it.... I believe they are going to start the emissions testing next year. As far as the service stations letting stuff go by, I was talking more about the people that have to worry about tires sticking out past the fenders, lift laws, third tailights and stuff.

Thanks for the info :beer: It is running fine. I just tuned it up and my only problem will be height if at all. That takes a load off. :D

Originally posted by Ketchup Dog

kev,
If you want to get technical, I THINK, the bumper height in CA is 27". As far as the flowmaster, it doesnt matter what friggin muffler its got on it. Tires don't matter either. Heck, Im running about 6" of lift, and 35's with NO flares to top it all off, and I still passed smog.. oh yeah.. I have a flowmaster too. Id just bring it out. It should pass no problem.
Scott

Well in that case I should be safe :rasta: Thanks Scott:beer:

as long as you have flares or mudflaps covering the tires no worries on how tall it is. I have a 2 chamber flowmaster and the stock 13year old cat.

Originally posted by CHOKEu
HMMMM, Welcome to the cheapest place to live in the country!:flipoff2: Better get out on the corner and start making some $$$$$ to pay for that rent.

:rainbow:

Your just getting here and I'm hauling ass outa here.:D

Yeah no doubt. There goes a lot of mod money for the YJ :( But I get some great trails as a bonus :D

Originally posted by JP4WHLR95
if ya got time to drive up to sacramento, ca bring it on by i'll smog it. if it wont pass i'll tell what ya need to get it to pass. as for the flowmaster and tires. it doesnt make a difference. if you want to bring it by email me at JP4WHLR95@AOL.COM


Hmn, you a smog ref by chance? or know a lenient one?

I'm a test only tech so I can smog almost anything. why what have you got?

Originally posted by JP4WHLR95
I'm a test only tech so I can smog almost anything. why what have you got?

How about some info on my new vehicle?
I just got a 85 cj8 that has a 304 swapped in. The PO lived in Sonoma county , so it didnt need smog inspection.
I live in Santa Cruz county. How can I get it to pass as it looks like theres no smog crap on the engine?

Thanks

without the smog equipment you 'd have to find a shady smog tech and pay some bucks. or put the smog equipment back on it.

:(

The 85 CJ w/ a 304 will be a problem because no V8s were offered that year. As I understand it, even if it passes the sniffer part of the test, it will still fail because the 304 wasn't offered that year. If you use a 85 or newer engine, and it passes the limits for the vehicle it came out of, then you are OK. The big problem being that the 304 wasn't offered in anything 85 or later.

One way to get around this is to register the scrambler as an older Jeep (73 or older) by snagging a good title and vin off of an old beater jeep (this isn't really legal).

This is how I understand the rules, but I might be wrong.

Originally posted by newt
The 85 CJ w/ a 304 will be a problem because no V8s were offered that year. As I understand it, even if it passes the sniffer part of the test, it will still fail because the 304 wasn't offered that year. If you use a 85 or newer engine, and it passes the limits for the vehicle it came out of, then you are OK. The big problem being that the 304 wasn't offered in anything 85 or later.

One way to get around this is to register the scrambler as an older Jeep (73 or older) by snagging a good title and vin off of an old beater jeep (this isn't really legal).

This is how I understand the rules, but I might be wrong.

Looks like time to find a later waggy and grab the 360 :D

Originally posted by Highlander


How about some info on my new vehicle?
I just got a 85 cj8 that has a 304 swapped in. The PO lived in Sonoma county , so it didnt need smog inspection.
I live in Santa Cruz county. How can I get it to pass as it looks like theres no smog crap on the engine?

Thanks

Well your kinda bummed, because the last year they offered a V8 was 1981, and so it would be very hard to get a V8 to pass 6 cylinder emissions. Maybe you should get a PO box in Sonoma and get keep your vehicle registered there, not sure if that will work though. You could sell it to me for cheap :D

Unfortunately even when it does burn clean, or cleaner than stock [fuel injection] they still are buggers here in CA, and you have to go to a referee station, and I have heard they stink bad.

This whole emmission thing is garbage political stuff [oil money lobby], we should have been going to hydrogen power long ago, now that would give you some power!

Originally posted by Mayhem
Thanks for the info :beer: It is running fine. I just tuned it up and my only problem will be height if at all. That takes a load off. :D

You won't have any problems with the lift or flares or noise in SF. It's driving across the valley to the trails that you'll get it from the CHP. Both times I've been stopped have been within 30 miles from Sacramento. Here's a little story for you: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60674&highlight=mud+flaps

Welcome to the City. :beer:What part you live in?

Paul

BTW - Chokeu - Buh bye! :flipoff2:

I think I am going to register where they have no smog...

'94? You shouldn't have any problem. There isn't one smog test place here in sacramento that is going to check bumper height. Trust me. I had my CJ in and out of about 6 smog shops before I got it to pass. It's an 81 so if you've ever looked under a California smog legal 81 CJ you'd know why it was such a problem.

Not one shop mentioned anything about my flowmaster nor my 33" tires/bumper height.

They PROBABLY WILL mention your leaky gas cap. My locking one was brand new and they made me replace it with a NON locking one. I also replaced all the engine grommets.

My first smog attempt passed all emission test but failed the VISUAL. The VISUAL test is your enemy so, treat it with respect. Grommets, gas cap and not to mention some wrongly routed vacuum hoses caused me to fail smog. (Even though hoses were routed wrong the jeep burned clean and was very passable for emissions).

Being that mine was 21 years old when I smogged it and that I pretty much memorized the emission schematic, I knew more about my particular vehicle then the smog guy did. Your's is a '94 so he'll probably be more familiar with it. Not that you'll get away with any more or less........it will just take the guy WAY less time since he won't have to check his manual every 3 seconds to see if it's right.

Also............drive that puppy like mad before you get to the smog shop. Also don't let it sit for too long. (don't drop off your keys and let him tell you to come back in 2 hours.) You want that thing running up to the point he puts it on the rollers. So, make sure it's visually stock and NICE AND WARMED UP!

I was at the DMV about a month ago and asked the maximim height a vehicle can be. What I was told is that it is measured by the frame. Nothing was said about the bumper height. If I remember what I was told, the maximum height from the ground to the frame for a vehicle < 4000GVW is 24" and for a vehicle >4000GVW it is 27".

I don't get the bumper height BS. I understand why there may be loose standards but this should have nothing to do with smog. Besides if I have a truck even with a mild life, it's sure not going to meet with the bumper height of a honda CX. For that matter, don't you think a semi-truck would be more likely to be about the height of the car's windshield rather than it's bumper?

Just a thought...