Can I connect a wire from the battery to the starter to see if it works? My 86 wont start, I tried to roll start it but somethings wrong! I had the key in the second position the tranny in 2nd and the transfercase in 2 hi, I let it roll down the street and let out the clutch. It started but when I gave it gas it wouldn't go and when I pushed in the clutch it would stall. I did that about 5 times before I got to the bottom of the hill.


What the hell would cause that? I roll start all my cars some times and have never had that happen. It is carbed. Help please.

Hard to pin point what is going on, it could be a LOT of things... My best bet is fuel. replace the fuel filter... Even if that isn't the problem, it is still a good idea

If you couldn't pop start it with the clutch then it's not going to start off the starter. Sounds like you aren't getting spark and/or fuel. Check for both and fix why the starter wont turn with the key :p

Do you have any electrical power at all?

If not, it's probably your fusible link. That tiny little wire (I think it's blue) coming off of your positive terminal. Chase it back and see if it is fried. If it's fried, then just throw a temporary jumper wire from the good end to the positive terminal. Don't leave it there (there's a reason it burned out in the first place). This should allow you to get it fired up though.

If this is your problem, I'd suggest replacing it with an in-line fuse. They're cheap and an easier fix for the next time it happens.

and make sure there's gas in the tank, battery's good, belt is on.....

and make sure there's gas in the tank, battery's good, belt is on.....

WOW You really are an asshole aren't you :rolleyes:

can I wire my coil to the battery with a toggle switch?

I'm not really sure on that one.

Do you have any electrical power at all? If not did you try the jump-wire?

you could wire your coil to your battery, but that is what your ignition already does, not trying to sound like a dick. Fuel could be a big one. Disconnect fuel line from carb and put it in a bottle, can, whatever; crank it over, if you get a good amount of fuel then it could be the carb. If you dont get gas, or it just dribbles then check the pump, filter, hoses,blah balh.(pretty easy). As far as electrical, check your cap for cracks and wear. If its not fuel get ready to have test-lite fun!!!! Good Luck.

If you turn your key and the starter kicks over, then the starter and solenoid are fine. You know this by hearing a whirring noise from under the motor.

You should grab the fuel line going to the carburator, put it in a bottle/can of some sort and turn the vehicle over. See if fuel spills out of it. If not, your fuel pump might be bad, or you don't have electricity going back to the fuel pump.

Put on some gloves, leather's a good start. Pull out a spark plug cable from the block end on any cylinder and hold it 1-2" away from the block. Have a friend turn the vehicle over and see if you get a spark. If so, the coil works, if not, you either have an electrical problem or the coil is toast.

Thier is no power to the coil and starter! the only way I got the starter to turn over was by using a piece of wire and connecting the battery to the starter signal wire, that is supposed to get power from the ignition. I have no power coming from the ignition switch. I was just woundering if I can wire the coil to the battery along with a toggle switch to the starter????????????

if the coil dosn't work will the starter still turn over????????????????????

if the coil dosn't work will the starter still turn over????????????????????

Yes,It just wont fire......

You can run a toggle switch for the coil and put the starter on a push button. OR you can trace your wiring and figure out what the problem is and replace that. Personally, I went back to a key setup, means it takes someone just a tad longer to steal the vehicle then pressing a button .. hopefully enough time for me to grab my shotgun ;)

Yah I think I will wire the starter to a push button and run a toggle switch to the coil. Any Ideas how i should wire it up? I guess i gust run a wire from the + side of the coil to a toggles switch then run that to the + side of the battery?

Yah I think I will wire the starter to a push button and run a toggle switch to the coil. Any Ideas how i should wire it up? I guess i gust run a wire from the + side of the coil to a toggles switch then run that to the + side of the battery?

Am I the only one that thinks you should fix the problem instead of wireing up some hack job switch system to bypass the problem? :confused:

You said you have no power coming out of the ignition switch... do you have power coming to it? If so, then replace the ignition switch and go from there.

I fixed it, it runs like a champ now. I just wired the coil to the battery with a toggle switch and a push button starter. Its a beater so i really don't care about the ignition. Thanks for all your help guy's.

If there is no power coming from the ignition switch, then isn't everything else in the truck not working either? I mean, on a Samurai stock wiring harness, the only thing NOT hooked up to the ignition switch are the lights ...

It would probably have been cheaper and easier to fix it right... but whatever.:rolleyes:

It would probably have been cheaper and easier to fix it right... but whatever.:rolleyes:

That was my point exactly :laughing:

Yea, I agree. I just went through all this on my rig, because the old owner cut the wiring harness, removed the ignition, etc.
The point is I took 2 hours to fix the wiring in the rig, cleaned it all up, waterproofed it, and guess what? EVERYTHING WORKS.
Don't be lazy and do things poorly because of it. If you are, we may be forced to call you Cajun.

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Don't be lazy and do things poorly because of it. If you are, we may be forced to call you Cajun.


hahahahahahaha.... "dude, don't Cajun that repair... do it right!" :D

It would probably have been cheaper and easier to fix it right... but whatever.:rolleyes:




NO It only coast me 5 bucks and 10 minutes for a push button starter, they wanted $45 bucks for a new ignition electronics and It would have taken a week to get it. I don't now if that really would have fixed it. I checked all the grounds, all the wires. I didn't want to take off the dash to rewire everything. Like I said its a beatter ONLY, only for trails!:flipoff2:


I could have taken the time and replaced the igniton switch. I still will if some1 has one in a parts sami that will let it go real cheap. I also thank all of you who took your time to help me with my problem. I always come to this board for help on ALL my rigs and you all are nice enought to help, thank you I appreciate it.

No problem Cajun

No problem Cajun
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Hey:flipoff2: buddy

Just messin with ya lol