So we finally have a 4" lift scout in our shop and we had to move it. Of course the steering is bound up (3" BL without steering mods) and it doesn't steer (we're putting Borgeson Joints on it to fix), but we lifted it up with our forklift and it has :barf: :barf: for flex. I mean TOM'S scout flexes more than this...

My question is: Is this normal for Triangle Lift springs:question: !:question: !

Chris says that I should post this picture in fairness to the 4" lift guys.

The first one has a Triangle lift, this one is a SkyJacker SoftRide lift. Its got 30" of travel in the back - and that is acheived with our LongTravel shock system front and rear (stock shocks limited it to 22-24"). But still, the provided shocks that came with the SkyJacker kit allowed it to flex WAY more than the stupid Triangles w/ 4" lift BlackDiamond shocks.

Originally posted by Snoopy
I mean TOM'S scout flexes more than this...




BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! OUCH, that's gotta hurt!

:p :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2: :rasta: ;) :eek: :rolleyes: :shaking: :laughing:



and yes, that's Triangles for ya...I know of one triangle owner in particular who likes to *BRAG* about how stiff his springs are (he runs 31's and drives on the street though).

My old SJ's used to flex well, enough to invert the packs

BTW, the first SII is lighter in the back without the top, enabling Tom to outflex it.

Originally posted by Bindernut
[BI know of one triangle owner in particular who likes to *BRAG* about how stiff his springs are (he runs 31's and drives on the street though). [/B]

Is his name Ryan?

:flipoff2: :D :D :flipoff2:

NQS

Originally posted by Snoopy
Chris says that I should post this picture in fairness to the 4" lift guys.

this one is a SkyJacker SoftRide lift. Its got 30" of travel in the back - and that is acheived with our LongTravel shock system front and rear (stock shocks limited it to 22-24").

This seems strange to me. My rig looks like it flexes more than that and my total shock travel was 24"long and 14" short. That equals 10" of travel. Am I calculating this wrong :confused:

Originally posted by Cliffhanger

Am I calculating this wrong :confused:

I measure articulation by lifting one tire up until another becomes lifted in the air ~ then measuring from the ground to the bottom of the tire that was lifted. The Blue Scout has about 15" or less. The white Scout got 27" when I lifted the front tire and 30" when I lifted the rear (as seen in the picture).

In (20*) RTI terms that would be about a 880-900 for the white (backing up) and for Blue it'd be no more that 450.:rolleyes: :skull: :( :barf: ~

Oh, both scouts have new springs on them. They are less than a month old. The white truck has been wheel'd once since the springs were put on.

Hey Snoop! I know it's off topic, but could you email me or post a better pic of the rear bumper. I'm planning on building one in a couple of weeks and I'm looking for ideas.

TIA :)

Originally posted by jdjanda
My old SJ's used to flex well, enough to invert the packs

BTW, the first SII is lighter in the back without the top, enabling Tom to outflex it.

Hey now, my rig hasn't seen the hard top in 3 years (?) now..

Oh, wait, I don't see a spare tire, doors, tools, etc in that one.. never mind. :flipoff2:

My Skyjacker *rears* flexed great - right into the body.

They just couldn't support a load..

Originally posted by Rubicrawler
Hey Snoop! I know it's off topic, but could you email me or post a better pic of the rear bumper. I'm planning on building one in a couple of weeks and I'm looking for ideas.

TIA :)

Oh yeah! That's what the 60 for 20' was for. 6 x 2 right? I'm in if you are interested.

--JoshC

Originally posted by Snoopy
I mean TOM'S scout flexes more than this...

My question is: Is this normal for Triangle Lift springs:question: !:question: !

The Triangles hold their height better than the SJs.. no "sag" (not that my SJ springs "sagged".. they just flat out failed to give advertised lift from day one..)

Shocks seem to be a limiting factor with a 4" lift.

Maybe I'll get some good poser shots of my rig for everyone Saturday.. we're having an RTI contest to drum up interest in the club.

Reminds me that I have a little more fender to remove and a bump stop to re-install.. drat.. more work. ;)

Maybe I'll even disconnect the anti-sway bar to pose on the ramp. :D

I'm going to put the $200 Travelall up on the ramp while I'm at it, too. The new '74 4x4 pickup won't.. it's heartless. :D

Little Devil is ready to show up the Jeeps though.. got the front DS installed last night, and one of the hood pins fixed.. need to get the other one done, finish filling the front diff, and drive it out of the shop.. :D

Originally posted by tsm1mt


The Triangles hold their height better than the SJs.. no "sag" (not that my SJ springs "sagged".. they just flat out failed to give advertised lift from day one..)

Shocks seem to be a limiting factor with a 4" lift.

Maybe I'll get some good poser shots of my rig for everyone Saturday.. we're having an RTI contest to drum up interest in the club.

Reminds me that I have a little more fender to remove and a bump stop to re-install.. drat.. more work. ;)

Maybe I'll even disconnect the anti-sway bar to pose on the ramp. :D

I'm going to put the $200 Travelall up on the ramp while I'm at it, too. The new '74 4x4 pickup won't.. it's heartless. :D

Little Devil is ready to show up the Jeeps though.. got the front DS installed last night, and one of the hood pins fixed.. need to get the other one done, finish filling the front diff, and drive it out of the shop.. :D

Make it interesting Tom and start with a 30 degree ramp. :D

Originally posted by Snoopy
So we finally have a 4" lift scout in our shop and we had to move it. Of course the steering is bound up (3" BL without steering mods) and it doesn't steer (we're putting Borgeson Joints on it to fix), but we lifted it up with our forklift and it has :barf: :barf: for flex. I mean TOM'S scout flexes more than this...

My question is: Is this normal for Triangle Lift springs:question: !:question: !

Whose SSII is that? It is factory or a conversion?

Originally posted by Hooper


Whose SSII is that? It is factory or a conversion?

are you some kind of purist:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Originally posted by Cliffhanger


This seems strange to me. My rig looks like it flexes more than that and my total shock travel was 24"long and 14" short. That equals 10" of travel. Am I calculating this wrong :confused:

I would think 10 inches would have you just barely over that 9.5" tire on the ground...I think it is fair to say you have more than 10.

Well it's obvious I was referring to shock travel. I would say it's safe to say I have at least 30" of wheel travel.

Originally posted by cornfedred


are you some kind of purist:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

;) Nope. I'm an equal opportunity type of guy. I collect info on SSII's, whether factory, or conversions. But, I do differentiate on the registry between the two.

Originally posted by NotQuiteSane


Is his name Ryan?

:flipoff2: :D :D :flipoff2:

NQS

BINGO!!! Joe Dufresne, come on down and select your prize! :D :beer:

Originally posted by JoshC


Oh yeah! That's what the 60 for 20' was for. 6 x 2 right? I'm in if you are interested.

--JoshC

Are you certain it isn't 20 or 30 for 60 somethin or another???? :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2: :D Have another beer Josh. :beer: :D :p

Originally posted by Bindernut


BINGO!!! Joe Dufresne, come on down and select your prize! :D :beer:

Can you see Ryan on this board asking if that lift is to 3 decimal places...

:laughing:

NQS

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Well it's obvious I was referring to shock travel. I would say it's safe to say I have at least 30" of wheel travel.

May I ask why you look at your shock travel as a guage to measure wheel travel? Seems a little *weird* to do it that way, I understand it is important for shock placement, but doesn't say anything about wheel travel since resulting wheel travel in conditional on the placement of the shocks.

Originally posted by JoshC
.....That's what the 60 for 20' was for. 6 x 2 right?

60 for 20':question: :confused: :question: I use 5"x2"x3/16" for our bumpers. Doesn't stick out as far.