I need a reason to have my dad buy a welder or help me pay for one, I just bought my truck, paid for a bunch of stuff that needed to get done before would let me drive it.. (oil pump, windshield). I'm completely broke till summer when my parents will let me get a job... What's a reason I could use to get a welder??

Maybe I can say it will be a father-son project :D

Take a welding class at school. Then tell your dad you have homework and need a 220V Miller MIG to do your homework. You will need leathers, auto hood of course!! :D

The class isn't offered at my school, i'm in auto-shop though.. I was planning on taking a welding class at a local jc, but I don't really have the time to make the communte for each class...

I was thinking of trying to convince him into this welder http://www.welders-direct.com/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WD&Product_Code=500416 . It says it operates off of 230 volts :confused: How much is it approx. to have a 220v line/outlet installed?

Tell him you might be ghey:rainbow: and your thinking about some black mule cock, but the one thing that will get that ghey shit off your mind is a real nice welder and if you get it you can play with it and feel like a real man again......It worked for me :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

If you have a dryer you can get an extention cord made and run it from there. I wired my own plug in and cord on a new breaker. I think it cost me $50 or so. This wire is expensive mine is a 20 ft cord.

Originally posted by hey its daver
The class isn't offered at my school, i'm in auto-shop though.. I was planning on taking a welding class at a local jc, but I don't really have the time to make the communte for each class...

I was thinking of trying to convince him into this welder http://www.welders-direct.com/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WD&Product_Code=500416 . It says it operates off of 230 volts :confused: How much is it approx. to have a 220v line/outlet installed?

tell him you can fix stuff around the house (fench or whatever) cars whatever....

and that it willl save you money on your truck..and that you will learn a trade to fall back on when the economy crashes and nobody needs office people anymore...

and that you want to know a trade so you can work hard like he had to when he was younger, because you see all your freinds and notice that they don't no the value of a dollar...

and tell him that you can make bullet proof mailbox..

and tell him that you can make handcuffs so he can lock your mom up and go bang her!!!:D

BTW I have the miller 175 (cousins) and really like it..very good machine!!

If you have to ask why you need a welder, you probably don't need one. Sorry, but damn, read the board and there are about a million 4x4 projects that require the use of a welder.

Tell him it will keep you from getting into trouble.:mad3:

Just because!:skull:

Originally posted by hey its daver
The class isn't offered at my school, i'm in auto-shop though.. I was planning on taking a welding class at a local jc, but I don't really have the time to make the communte for each class...

I was thinking of trying to convince him into this welder http://www.welders-direct.com/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WD&Product_Code=500416 . It says it operates off of 230 volts :confused: How much is it approx. to have a 220v line/outlet installed?
I have the same welder. REAL happy with it. Nice machine for the price and a good DYI machine for a weekend welder. If you were going pro I wouls say step up to the Miller (little better drives and infinate adjustable power) but for a home shop it's just about perfect.

1)What are you going to use the welder for??? That tells you how big of one you need to go.

2) If you need to ask how to install a 220 circuit in your house. You may not be ready yet. ;)

3) When you go to get the welder... pick the one you think you'll need. then get the biggest one you can possibly afford. I caught shit for getting my Millermatic 210 instead of a smaller unit. In the end though I was happy... I ended up doing some major work to a trailer I never counted on.

Originally posted by Dick Hertzer
If you have to ask why you need a welder, you probably don't need one. Sorry, but damn, read the board and there are about a million 4x4 projects that require the use of a welder.

My dad couldn't give two shits if I grinded off the stock hangers and welded on new ones to accomidate my new chevy springs so that I could get more flex on the trail.

I asked for reasons to tell him why WE (as a family) need a welder.

If you need to convince your DAD to get you a welder, I wish you good luck! If he doesn't already have one, he probably isn't the type of guy that is onto modding stuff. Hell my dad taught me to weld when I was 7 years old!! :D

Originally posted by dangerber
Hell my dad taught me to weld when I was 7 years old!! :D

Hell, taught you to weld at age 7, and NOT TO PICK UP THAT DAMN STUFF until it is nice and cool! :D

Daver... tell him you will build him some nice metal shelving once you have the welder... BBQ Grill? Repair the broken handle on the lawn mower? If possible... sign up for a welding class.

Funny one... my 12 year old has asked for a ATV. $2400 is a bit out of my pocket... told him to start saving. This morning he asked "if I save 2/3, will you pay the remaining 1/3". Hmm when I paused for a moment, he explained his goal is to $1600 and would I pay the remainder. Hmm... I said yes. Now I am wondering what he is going to do to make $1600 over the summer (Hmm... wonder if he has been underbidding a couple of my metal projects?) :D

Tom :usa: