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WillyPete 05-02-2002, 11:52 AM front is a D60, rear is a 14 bolt FF right? gears are 4.56 on a non-standard carrier? do they come with open diffs or lockers? are they setup stock for SUA or SOA? what's the transfer case? np208? np205? tranny is usually a th400, right? thanx DRM 05-02-2002, 12:00 PM You looking at buying one too? ;) 6.2L diesel, Turbo 400 tranny, 208 Tcase, 60 front, 14 bolt rear, 4.56 gears, Detroit rear, some kind of L/S front... Lloyd 05-02-2002, 12:05 PM Originally posted by WillyPete front is a D60, rear is a 14 bolt FF right? right gears are 4.56 on a non-standard carrier? right do they come with open diffs or lockers? either. depends on what it was for. edit: All I've seen were Detroit rear and Powerlock fronts are they setup stock for SUA or SOA? all SOA, just like all modern GM trucks I'm aware of. what's the transfer case? np208? np205? tranny is usually a th400, right? th400 is right. tcase could be either. Mostly 208's but some 205s. edit: M1028A1 and M1031 had 205's. thanx you're welcome. ;) Lloyd 05-02-2002, 12:39 PM Actually the M1009's are Blazers - 10-bolts front and rear, 6.2 diesel, th400 and np208s. But I assume you know that and were asking about the 1-1/4 ton trucks. mytzlflick 05-02-2002, 01:11 PM carefull there, I dunno about the us army but in canada a 5/4 ton truck is a gas burner and is only a 3/4 ton drivetrain. the cucv is a deisel and is a true one ton setup Lloyd 05-02-2002, 01:27 PM All these are commonly called CUCV's: M1008: Tactical Cargo M1008A1: Tactical Cargo M1009: Tactical Utility M1010: Tactical Ambulance M1028: Tactical Shelter Carrier M1028A1: Tactical Shelter Carrier w/ PTO M1031: Tactical Chassis All are as described above; most common is M1008 and M1009. Prior to the M10xx series, the 5/4-ton trucks were Dodges: M880, M882, M886 ambulance, etc. These were 318/727/np203/d44-d60. Lloyd 05-02-2002, 01:47 PM A more complete list: M880 - Chrysler Corporation, Dodge Division Model M881 - M880 fitted with additional 60-amp 24-volt generator M882 - M881 fitted with communications equipment M883 - M881 fitted with slide-in shelter kit M884 - M880 fitted with 100-amp 24-volt generator and slide-in shelter kit with tie-downs M885 - M880 fitted with slide-in shelter kit with tie-downs M886 - Ambulance model based on M880 M888 - Telephone maintenance body based on M880 M890 - 2-wheel drive version of the M880 M891 - M890 fitted with additional 60-amp 24-volt generator M892 - M890 fitted with additional 60-amp 24-volt generator and communications kit M893 - 2-wheel drive ambulance version M1008 - Pickup version of the General Motors Model K30903 M1008A1 - M1008 fitted with additional 100-amp 24-volt generator and communications kit M1009 - Utility version of the General Motors Model K10516 M1010 - Ambulance version of the General Motors Model K30903 M1028 - Shelter carrier version of the General Motors Model K30903 M1028A1 - Shelter Carrier w/ PTO version of the General Motors Model K30903 M1031 - Chassis of the General Motors Model K30903 BadDog 05-02-2002, 05:49 PM Hmm, this "non standard carriers" is news to me. Are you guys sure about that? I haven't tried to buy anything for it so I don't know for sure, but I thought the D60 and C14 had standard stuff inside... WillyPete 05-02-2002, 07:30 PM just gettin one for a parts truck... probly use only the xcase and axles and sell the rest to a scrapyard (or any pirate members ;)) sorry, i meant the 5/4 ton trucks ala K series fullsize p/u the 4.56 carrier in the CUCV 14 bolt is a nonstandard carrier in that you can only fit the 4.56 gears on it (i think) a standard 14b carrier can't fit gears deeper than 4.10 unless you get thin gears and a spacer (again, i think) WillyPete 05-02-2002, 07:34 PM wow, damn lloyd, that's a nice reference list; thanks too bad they don't make the m715 any more... BadDog 05-02-2002, 07:35 PM The information I have (beats the hell out of me where I got it, but this is what is in my head) is that the C14FF can go to 5.13. Carrier break is at 4.56 so... 3.?? - 4.10 are on one carrier 4.56, 4.88, 5.13 are on the other. I do remember calling Randy's and they only sell the "deep" gears as "thick gears" for the 4.10 carrier. Called Drivetrain Direct and they had the deeper gears in standard cut, but only in OEM. No Richmond, Supperior, etc. So, this "special" carrier (if it is odd ball) is only for the C14FF? Is the D60 a "standard" 4.56+ carrier??? WillyPete 05-02-2002, 07:42 PM Originally posted by BadDog The information I have (beats the hell out of me where I got it, but this is what is in my head) is that the C14FF can go to 5.13. Carrier break is at 4.56 so... 3.?? - 4.10 are on one carrier 4.56, 4.88, 5.13 are on the other. I do remember calling Randy's and they only sell the "deep" gears as "thick gears" for the 4.10 carrier. Called Drivetrain Direct and they had the deeper gears in standard cut, but only in OEM. No Richmond, Supperior, etc. So, this "special" carrier (if it is odd ball) is only for the C14FF? Is the D60 a "standard" 4.56+ carrier??? hmmm i think you may be right about the carrier break... but i think the CUCV 14 bolts used some funky carrier that can only use 4.56 gears. about the 4.56+ on standard gears... i dunno what i was thinkin; yeah, it's thick gears, not thin gears with a spacer :banging head against desk: the D60 is a standard carrier Lloyd 05-04-2002, 08:03 AM Originally posted by BadDog The information I have (beats the hell out of me where I got it, but this is what is in my head) is that the C14FF can go to 5.13. Carrier break is at 4.56 so... 3.?? - 4.10 are on one carrier 4.56, 4.88, 5.13 are on the other. I do remember calling Randy's and they only sell the "deep" gears as "thick gears" for the 4.10 carrier. Called Drivetrain Direct and they had the deeper gears in standard cut, but only in OEM. No Richmond, Supperior, etc. So, this "special" carrier (if it is odd ball) is only for the C14FF? Is the D60 a "standard" 4.56+ carrier??? I think it's a standard high-ratio carrier, but fitted with the Detroit at the factory. Of course that combination gets it a special build code. FWIW the 4.56 was the steepest factory gearset I've ever seen in one; and the only 4.56-equipped axles that I know of that came from the factory with the Detroit were in CUCVs. IMO this is where the "special" carrier bit comes from. Don't know of anything else unique about 'em. Those D60s came with a plain ole Powerlock. Lord Baskerville 05-04-2002, 08:15 AM OK, I have a 77 3/4 ton Dodge 4x4 in the back yard. 318, 727, etc.... Any special lockers etc in the axels that anyone knows of? This has the 24V gen with com. dist box in the bed. It is a friends and is for sale:D Cory BadDog 05-04-2002, 05:29 PM It's not even a special carrier with the Detroit, just an insert in the standard open carrier as far as I know. It just surprised me seeing this post about a "special" carrier after having Randy's tell me they don't have "standard" gears for the carrier I have. Had me worried for a bit there. Good to hear that it's not really special. I hate odd-ball stuff you can't use standard/common parts for. BTW, only a few got Power-Loks, most were open like mine. 72zebra 05-04-2002, 08:26 PM Im in the Army (SFC, 14 yr.s time in service) and Ive never seen anything but gov-locs in the rear and open fronts. But hey, Ive only been in 14yrs so I could be wrong:D | |