step one
notice how the runflat is much smaller than the tire
should not have any problems when aired down

get a nice big ratchet strap
the little chinese versions are just trouble waiting to happen

OW! RATCHET STRAP IN MY EYE!

Start ratcheting

stuff the turkey

keep going
you may need a little soap for this step

Looks like fun.......;)

there it's in

you'll notice that the little flange goes on the inside of the tire

I used these pipe pliers to release the strap
this helps in keeping all fingers installed

here you can see that raised lip
this goes to the inside/engine side of the tire/rim

Originally posted by Dingo
Looks like fun.......;)

But its not;) :D

here you can see the spacer that goes on the outside of the tire

this is easily squashed by hand and installed
there is an arrow on it to show which side goes against the outer bead

this is what the outside of the tire should look like

this would be the inside before you get everything lined up for the rim

thats a great step by step to do it now in order to use the radials you need the 12 bolt wheels right the 8 bolts are for the magnesiums..

here you can see the big oring that is need
don't forget it and make sure it doesn't come out of it's groove

here you can see the o-ring in place
also be sure to line the air valve on the outside of the rime with this groove in the spacer

finally put on the outer part of the rim and start tightening them down in this order
the best way to do this is by hand cuz "it makes ya stronger"
actually I think you are supposed to torque em to 85 ft lb and then again to 115

tj7
It's weird
all I know is that these rims are civilian 12 bolt style and these beadlocks, I believe say they are for bias tires?!
I'm not really sure, but i don't think it makes much difference

no those are from civilian humvee and they are for radials not biasply...the bias ply come with the magnesium run flats which are much stronger and better to wheel with.if anyone needs any style i have them sorry to use this as an add but guys are going to wonder where they can get them from..
nice work man...

why are the magnesium stronger?

well they give you more lateral stability as well as a double beadlock to the biasplys the radials arent good for bias ply as they give a little when you get in a tight spot.they were designed for the new humvees with radial tires ...just another way to spend tax payers money....and to be lighter on road..but the 8 bolts are much stronger and better.plus radial tires suck offroad...

Very illuminating post. Thanks, fcfred.
dion

hey tj

I'm still a little confused
I understand how the rubber might give a little, but these still lock both the inner and the outer beads. Are the actual 12 bolt rims weaker than the 8 bolt? and if so why? I would assume that the rubber runflats would actually be heavier than the magnesium though I'm sure the bias-ply tires are a bit heavier than the radials. is there any real problem with running the 12 bolt rims with biasply tires?

no there isnt a real big problem at all... if you have them use them
just when you air down just be careful i have seen them (biasply on radial rims) blow out more often then the mags runflats...

fcfred, how long did it take you to install each beadlock? Looks like a lot of work. I'm jealous......

how is the rig coming along. when will the tires be mounted to it .
I finally got my 37.in mtrs, they are a good size for my toyota.
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james

Awesome post Crazy...I dig shit like this!

I just have to wonder though...How in the fawk would you EVER get that run-flat out of the tire!? Sawzall?

Knowing me, I'd have the first 3 run-flats in the right direction and on the 4th I'd put it in backward!

Great post man.

--D

Dingo
it doesn't take to long
especially if you have the right tools
big strap
air tools
and such
I usually do one a night after work with a beer it takes about an hour longer if you want to photograph it

Home-grown
it's taking a long time, it doesnt look like much, but I'm there almost every night. I've learned that when you build your own truck from scratch for the first time you actually build about 5 if you do it right b/c you have to constantly re-do stuff, I'm so jonesin to go thrash it
you gott stop by man
gimme a call if you wanna see it I'll be there tonight

rover
if you really wanna know
I did install one backwards and will soon have to take it out
it's not really that hard just a P.I.T.A.

Fred, what axles are those? How wide? How are you dealing with any clearance issues with the 7" backspacing of the hummer rims? What size swampers are those?

Looks like it'll be a cool truck.

Morgan

I'm running an eaton rear and 60 front
I have not yet explored the steering issues, however I believe I will need to make new arms

Lookin' good my man!

Sheez! I don't feel so bad about my limited space (in the dirt) anymore! :flipoff2:

Keep up the good work man. Any idea when she'll be runnin'?

--D

O'yea...Is that a Land Rover LT230 behind that NV4500? :flipoff2:

--D

that's a land rover lt-230 behind that sm-420:flipoff2:

where can I buy a new set of runflats and is there a certain tire I have to run with them.

Good luck finding a one piece rubber runflat. No specific tire really. Thick beads will be more difficult to mount. Boggers are the thickest beads I know of, and I've seen them mount with these runflats.
Travis

I prefer the rubber sleeves without the runflat. They are very easy to mount and significantly lighter than the runflat. I've run them on 8 bolt and 12 bolt wheels with 39.5 boggers, 39.5 swampers and 42 swampers aired down to 2.5 psi with no problems.

Is there somewhere to purchase/trade a rubber sleeve beadlock with out the runflat?

Any idea on tire size needed for a magnesium run flat? I'll be running 35 inch tires and I think the runflat will be to big while aired down. I have a set of magnesium ones.

I've purchased several sets from www.myhumvee.com

The guys name is Paul and he's been great to work with. I found them on his site but they have gone up quite a bit since I purchased them 4 or 5 years ago. They are listed at $349 per set of 4.

Here's a link to the page:

http://www.myhumvee.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=1&cat=New+Accessories

Just get a set of PVC inserts from Stazworks or 66CJdean I think still has some

I'd like to see them if you have a link?

The ones at www.myhumvee.com were what I was looking for but at $349 a set? :shaking: I don't think I'd buy them. One thing is the run-flat would be to large for low air on 35 inch tires but second would be weight. Those rubber bead-lock still look heavy! Must be sold by the pound? :rolleyes:

I think I've seen those plastic ones before...

www.STAZWORKS.com


or PM 66cjdean about his (if he still makes them)

Thanks! will do...

I just bought a set and I can't get the insert to fit in the run flat.I see in your pics but how far do the bead locks go in the run flats. Thanks Brody

so nothing like this is being made for differnt sizes other than humvee then?

so nothing like this is being made for differnt sizes other than humvee then?

And exactly how would you plan to use this style of beadlock on anything other than a Hummer style 2 piece wheel?

But to answer the question, there is the Staun...

i believe that there might be a h1 17-inch wheel, but i'm not sure if it is available with the run flat or not.

so nothing like this is being made for differnt sizes other than humvee then?

Check out Rock Monster wheels (i.e. - Hutchinson)

http://www.rockmonsterwheels.com/

Runflats are available for a 17" 2 piece wheel. I have a set in my shop if someone needs info or measurements from them. For that matter, if someone needs them send me a PM.

Some really strange "tech" in here being passed off as gospel, and it's incorrect.

The 12 bolt rims are stronger than the 8 bolt rims. The reason they were developed is to deal with the higher tire pressure of Radial tires,vs. Bias ply's.

The mag runflats are a bit more rigid, obviously, than the rubber ones from Hutchinson, but given all the alternatives that are available out there, I wouldn't use them. If I wanted a literal runflat capability, then I would use the Hutchinsons, because they are less likely to damage your tire than the mag versions. If my concern was just a beadlock, then I would just run an HDPE insert.

The question of 8 vs. 12 bolt. 12 bolt without a doubt, if you can get them. They are heavier, stronger in every regard. I have no idea where TJ7 got his information, but it is contrary to every thing I know or have ever seen posted. You definately want to be careful running radials on the 8 bolts, but you can run either on the stronger 12 bolt....

Doug

well they give you more lateral stability as well as a double beadlock to the biasplys the radials arent good for bias ply as they give a little when you get in a tight spot.they were designed for the new humvees with radial tires ...just another way to spend tax payers money....and to be lighter on road..but the 8 bolts are much stronger and better.plus radial tires suck offroad...

so what you're telling me that these rims weren't designed for the 37in SX's BIAS PLY TIRE ON 12 BOLT RIM WITH RUBBER RUNFLATS used by SEAL teams up til they were replaced by hutchinsons rim and NITTO mud grapplers...and 8 bolts are stronger...

i'm raising the bullshit flag on this one...go peddle your shit somewhere else...:flipoff2:

Some really strange "tech" in here being passed off as gospel, and it's incorrect.

The 12 bolt rims are stronger than the 8 bolt rims. The reason they were developed is to deal with the higher tire pressure of Radial tires,vs. Bias ply's.

The mag runflats are a bit more rigid, obviously, than the rubber ones from Hutchinson, but given all the alternatives that are available out there, I wouldn't use them. If I wanted a literal runflat capability, then I would use the Hutchinsons, because they are less likely to damage your tire than the mag versions. If my concern was just a beadlock, then I would just run an HDPE insert.

The question of 8 vs. 12 bolt. 12 bolt without a doubt, if you can get them. They are heavier, stronger in every regard. I have no idea where TJ7 got his information, but it is contrary to every thing I know or have ever seen posted. You definately want to be careful running radials on the 8 bolts, but you can run either on the stronger 12 bolt....

Doug

well put

Really good thread with lots of good useful info...... :smokin: