: How the hell do you get bearings off a carrier without damage??


Sharp
05-02-2002, 09:02 PM
i got the bearings on my detroit and need to adjust shims, i need to get the bearings off
without damaging them!
HOW?
and special tools? a 2 arm puller is not working, and there is nothing for the puller to
push on!
help!
thanks.:beer:

Sharp
05-02-2002, 09:04 PM
by the way it's a Detroit SL and its going into my D30
i think the pattern is good, just got a 0.003 backlash reading, and it's ment to be
.006-.010 so i need to move a small shim.

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Scout Dude
05-02-2002, 10:56 PM
You need a press..and most (If not all) gear installers hone out an old set of bearings to set the shims and then once it is correct, they put on the final bearings.;)

TJBob
05-03-2002, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Sharp
and special tools?

How about a slide hammer? (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=38878) withbearing seperator (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3979)? Works for me. Just be carefull if you need to remove the bearing because it is possible to damage the bearing if you are not careful.

Bob

chadl
05-03-2002, 05:32 AM
After about a week of screwing around with 2 and 3 jaw pullers, I ordered this little jewel.

http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2143&page=1&#33553

A little pricey, but works great. Harbor freight has a cheaper one, but I've heard it can still screw up the bearings. This one works great for both carrier and pinion bearings, just sandwhich the two haves on either side of the bearing, and tighten down the bolts, the knife edges push behind the race, seperating it. It will bottom out, after pushing the bearing about half way off, then you can use a 3 jaw puller (witht he splitter still on) to pull it the rest of the way off.

It also has two taps, running perpendicular to the tightening bolts, if you had two more bolts, you could run them down those taps, against the carrier, and probably force the bearing the rest of the way off without having to use the 3 jaw puller, but it didn't come with a second set of bolts, and I haven't gotten around to get them yet.

Chad

txs
05-03-2002, 05:52 PM
miller tools makes a very good puller that works for carrier and pinion bearings without damaging them.

landusepbb
05-03-2002, 06:43 PM
Just make a set of dummy bearings using a hone to make the hole just a little bigger to be able to slip them on and off.

BossBuilt
05-03-2002, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by landuseorc
Just make a set of dummy bearings using a hone to make the hole just a little bigger to be able to slip them on and off.
Yep I used a die Grinder with a sanding drum bit on two new bearings ($10 ea.). Ream them out untill they fit snug use em and save them for next time.;)

If you use a puller you'll be sorry after all that $$ and you have to take them off and put them back on several times and maybe end up bending the cage and smashing the shimms to shit.

The puller would be nice to have but Damn they are expensive...
Do you have an Auto Zone near by? They will lend you a puller for Free if you by the bearings there.

tys
05-11-2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by BossGrip

Do you have an Auto Zone near by? They will lend you a puller for Free if you by the bearings there.

You don't have to buy the parts to use the tools. I always go down to AutoZone to rent tools. Pay the fees up front, then return them a few days later for full refund. Sometimes I buy parts there, sometimes I don't...

Chris

Robert
05-12-2002, 11:01 PM
If you plan on doing a lot of diff work, Snap On makes a puller specifically for pulling carrier bearings, with out damaging them.
Part #CJ18D is a two jaw, bar type puller that woks well with Dana axle (not sure about other makes, or aftermarket carriers).
People familiar with Dana carriers know that there is a pair of notches in the carrier, under the bearings.
The jaws of this puller fit into these notches, under the bearing.
The jaws are then locked in place, to keep them from slipping out.
I have used this puller on several different axle jobs, and not one damaged bearing.
R2

Oxjockey
05-13-2002, 08:41 AM
People familiar with Dana carriers know that there is a pair of notches in the carrier, under the bearings.
The jaws of this puller fit into these notches, under the bearing.
The jaws are then locked in place, to keep them from slipping out.


We've found that a lot of Dana carriers don't actually have these notches, which then presents a real issue and you're back to using a bearing splitter. (FYI)

Bryan