: Best Tranny


SkysTheLimit
10-30-2006, 10:38 AM
I have a '67 CJ-5 with the 225 V-6 and a Spicer 18 T-case. I want a new tranny and I was wondering what the best would be for my application and for adaptability to my Buick engine I have. I am wondering about the SM420, SM465, NP435, and T-18 with low first. Please tell me which would be the best to go with and which would be the easiest to mate to my 225 V-6. Thanks for your opinions.

zrsledneck
10-30-2006, 10:52 AM
Why do you want to replace your current tranny? Is it broken, or are you looking for better performance?

SkysTheLimit
10-30-2006, 10:59 AM
I want to replace my tranny because I figured out I don't have the T-18 as stated in my profile, I have the T-86, which is worthless and has a crap first gear of 2.79:1, and I would like at least around 6.5:1 or better so I can crawl better.

fullygruntled
10-30-2006, 01:22 PM
Because of length (and price), the fewer adapters, the better.

The 420 and 465 will mate up to the bellhousing, but will need a TC adapter.

The T18 (if Ford) or 435 will need adaptation on both ends.

A Jeep T18 or T98 may be the ideal solution, although they're not easy to find.

Budd
10-30-2006, 01:41 PM
The SM420 is nice as the case length is only 10.5" long. It will bolt up to your 225 bellhousing. A bit of a pain sometimes as two bolts of the bellhousing to SM420 mount from the inside. The SM465 is nice - but hangs down lower but has synchro'd first gear - the SM420 does not. Also the 465 isn't quite geared as low as the 420.

Just be aware these are very basic tranny's and tend to make some gear noise - straight cut gears......

currupt4130
10-30-2006, 02:44 PM
Because of length (and price), the fewer adapters, the better.

The 420 and 465 will mate up to the bellhousing, but will need a TC adapter.

The T18 (if Ford) or 435 will need adaptation on both ends.

A Jeep T18 or T98 may be the ideal solution, although they're not easy to find.


435 bolts to a t176 bellhousing. only needs one adapter. Is also only 10.8inches long

Wagoneer Addict
10-30-2006, 03:05 PM
just curious, how did you think you had a T-18?

SPEEDCRAVIN
10-30-2006, 06:46 PM
I love my SM420s. Its the shortest of all and its the lowest. Its still a cluncker when shifting but its also the cheapest to buy. I have had one in my last 2 rigs with no regrets!!!

JOSH

ChrisHolmz
10-30-2006, 07:42 PM
That junkyard in Ohio on the frontpage of this website has several jeep T-18's. My buddy bought one there about four months ago and he had several more.

FILDO
10-03-2008, 11:28 AM
The SM420 is nice as the case length is only 10.5" long. It will bolt up to your 225 bellhousing. A bit of a pain sometimes as two bolts of the bellhousing to SM420 mount from the inside. The SM465 is nice - but hangs down lower but has synchro'd first gear - the SM420 does not. Also the 465 isn't quite geared as low as the 420.

Just be aware these are very basic tranny's and tend to make some gear noise - straight cut gears......

What clutch do you use 225 and 420 trans?

oldjeep
10-03-2008, 11:42 AM
T18 is cheap if you know how to do it. Start with a Ford T18 and a scout t18. Output and adapter from the scout box, toss the rest. Drill and tap the ford case for the scout D18/D20 adaptor. Follow directions on Novaks website for connecting to a buick bellhousing with a little machine work and no adapter.

You'll need to swap out to a big hole D18 if you don't already have one.

Ran this combo in my 225 powered cj2 before I swapped out to a TH400

4x4not
10-03-2008, 02:23 PM
I will be swapping an NP435 into my TJ soon. I'm actually going to pick one up tomorrow morning w/ an AMC bellhousing already on it.

One company I would definately give a call to is Novak Conversions. (http://www.novak-adapt.com/) They are incredibly helpful and probably make any adapters you need.

WideJ
10-03-2008, 02:35 PM
Of the above trannies I would run the one I get for free - for maybe $50. They are all super clunky and suck to drive on the street, but great on the trail w/the low 1st gear.

I had a 420 in my YJ. Got the job done but was a pain to daily drive. They are all beefcake trannies. I'm sure any one will work great. Its a great bang-for-your buck setup.

A friend has a T18 in his Willys w/a 225 oddfire and Dana 18. Works very well for him.