: Taking 2" out of SOA


Cooch
05-05-2002, 11:41 AM
Yes I am a newbie here so let me help you :flipoff2: to my newbie ass.

OK now I have an 8.8 setup for SOA with 2" BDS's I am not interested in going that high right now so I am going to use YJ stock springs with a couple leafs added.

My question is will I have to use shims to fix pinion angle, and if so can I do that? Or do I have to cut and re-weld the perch's. I know cutting and re-welding would be best but I don't weld (I know I know I wish I had a welder the $$ I could have saved in my life) so it makes it much harder to do that way.

If I can shim any idea on the degree needed? I would rather just order a set or 2 and have them for the day of the swap.

Thanks,

Cooch

ColoYJ
05-05-2002, 11:55 AM
First off, if you use stock springs with a couple add-a-leafs you will probably end up with a pack that is just a tall as your BDS.

A change of 2" will only require at most a 2.5 deg shim.

CJ-Jeeper
05-05-2002, 04:35 PM
He said "a couple of leafs addded". I think he means stock leafs, not aad-a leafs.
What are you doing about drive shaft issues? Have you already done a SYE? Do you have a CV shaft w/ the propper yoke to match the joint to the 8.8? Are the perches on the 8.8 set to piont the pinion up already? The answerrs to these & more question have to be known.

In short, nobody can possibly answer your question.

Sounds like you have a lot of resaerch to do, so start useing that search button at the top.

silly Newbie:flipoff2:

TDW
05-05-2002, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by CJ-Jeeper


Sounds like you have a lot of resaerch to do, so start useing that search button at the top.

silly Newbie:flipoff2:

Ditto.

You will have steering issues to deal with up front too.

Cooch
05-05-2002, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by CJ-Jeeper
He said "a couple of leafs addded". I think he means stock leafs, not aad-a leafs.
What are you doing about drive shaft issues? Have you already done a SYE? Do you have a CV shaft w/ the propper yoke to match the joint to the 8.8? Are the perches on the 8.8 set to piont the pinion up already? The answerrs to these & more question have to be known.

In short, nobody can possibly answer your question.

Sounds like you have a lot of resaerch to do, so start useing that search button at the top.

silly Newbie:flipoff2:
OK I guess I assumed you knew too much about what I know.

Yes I mean add stock leafs I plan on using rear pack with the main leaf from a front pack with the eye cut off under the main leaf and then the second leaf of the front pack on top of the rear pack. 7 leafs total.
What does drive shaft, and yoke have to do with my post? To answer the questions Yes I have an SYE and a driveshaft to mate the SYE with the 8.8
Yes the 8.8 is set to the proper pinion angle for the 2" BDS springs that were on it.

So in short none of your questions really have anything to do with the question I asked? Except for the pinion angle one, but who would set an axle up for SOA and not have the proper pinion angle? It's not like it's normal to run a SOA with the stock driveshaft.

The answer to every question isn't use the search, if you don't know just say so. :flipoff2:

I just have never take 2" lift out of an SOA and wanted to know if I could shim leafs in an SYE configurationthats all.

ColoYJ
05-05-2002, 08:56 PM
orginally posted by CJ-Jeeper: I think he means stock leafs, not aad-a leafs

When you put a leaf spring from another pack you are adding-a-leaf. I knew what he meant.:flipoff2:

Cooch: It sounds like you are trying to make an anti-wrap spring pack. Is this right? Let me tell you from experience that it doesnt work to eliminate wrap. I used the same set-up on my SOA and I had to build a wrap bar. I kept the extra main leaf and got rid of the leaf on top. The spring pack was about 1.5 over stock. I think you should just use your 2" packs.

Cooch
05-05-2002, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by ColoYJ


Cooch: It sounds like you are trying to make an anti-wrap spring pack. Is this right?

No I will use an antiwrap bar. What I am trying to do is get as little lift as possible out of a leaf spring but not have it so soft that it will be negative arched. Like stock springs but ones that will stand up to SOA. I looked into the JCW CJ7 springs but from what I understand they are arched more than YJ springs so in essence would ad 2" or so lift over the SOA height. I was thinking the JCW springs made for a YJ with 0" lift but I hear they are junk.

What I am trying to get is my lift as low as possible with a SOA but not have to replace springs every month. (I know people say why but to each his own thats what I want to run fot lift right now) More and more I think I may just get the RE 1.5" SOA springs and call it good.

Thanks for the reply above on the shim exactly what I was looking for.

scottylook
05-06-2002, 08:41 AM
So what are you planning on doing with the 2" springs. I am doing my spring over soon and planning on running 35 or 36's and could use those. Let me know if your interested

Archie_G
05-07-2002, 05:22 AM
I am interested to hear why you think that you will be replacing 'stock' springs every month with your SOA? I run stock CJ springs and the only thing that caused any settlement was not running a proper anti-wrap bar. My springs are currently flat and, IMO, that offers the best flex (the spring/shackle moves both positive and negitave arch). Been running it hard since August.

I love the 'soft' springs (both flex and ride quality), I wouldn't add leafs if I could help it.

Just some thoughts.....

Cooch
05-07-2002, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Archie_G
I am interested to hear why you think that you will be replacing 'stock' springs every month with your SOA? I run stock CJ springs.
I love the 'soft' springs (both flex and ride quality), I wouldn't add leafs if I could help it.

Just some thoughts.....

On the first question about replacing "stock" springs all the time, I may be wrong but I didn't think YJ stockers would hold up. You mentioned you have CJ springs, CJ springs have a higher spring rate and more arch that YJ springs so I could see how your CJ springs would hold up. I am interested in using CJ springs but I think the higher arch will add more lift than the 2" BDS's.

I love soft springs as well. If I could get some like yours that are flat and won't sag out in a month or 3 I would be happy.

I am going to start a topic on various spring heights for SOA. I have seen tons of topics on spring rate and sag etc but never one on height maybe someone has some insight.

Cooch