: Impressions of Paragon...


60seriesguy
05-06-2002, 07:48 AM
Saturday I went up to Paragon Adventure Park in Hazleton, PA on my FJ62, with Rustycruiser running shotgun/spotter. We had a medium-sized group that included three US-spec 80 series (including Climbermike from this board), a Venezuelan-spec FZJ80 (carburated, manual, part-time 4WD) and two FJ40's.

Ross and I got there kind of late, after miscalculating the time it would take there and stopping for a leisurely breakfast. As soon as we got off the highway we started seeing rigs, mostly YJ's and TJ's and the occasional mini-truck, but even a group of shiny X-terras! As we drove into the park, I was surprised by the number of trucks, there were easy 200+ rigs there. The organization was pretty good, I had to buy a flag (mandatory) and we were given wristbands of the appropriate color for the day after paying ($35 for rig/driver and $5 for additional passengers per day), given a quick inspection, then allowed to go muster in front of the correct marker for the trail. Paragon recently decided to allow groups to go on their own (after marking the trails and designing a good map), which is a lot better than being assigned a trail leader. On saturday we decided to run Whompum, which is rated a Green 3. I'm not sure what this means since this is the only trail I've done there, but I can tell you that the trail would be considered a mid-level trail at most events, with a couple of nice little obstacles and a couple of tougher lines that are optional.

Having lived within 45 minutes of the Florence Junction area of Arizona, I didn't expect to be impressed by the rocks at Paragon, but I *definitely* was. There are a lot of rocks, and a lot of BIG rocks. One rock garden of loose boulders was intense, and we checked out (but didn't try) a side trail that would have given WoodPecker a run for its money. The rocks are gritty and offer amazing traction, and the trail was dry this weekend, which was a blessing.

The pace was a little bit slow for my taste, but the group was a good one, and other than a broken rear axle on an FJ40 and a couple of well-bashed 80 series control arms, damage was minimal.

All in all, we had a really good time. Not bad for a day trip, although by the time I got home I was beat, maybe next time we'll make it a weekend thing?

As far as my Cruiser goes, the old bitch stood up to the abuse as well as always. Other than assorted scraped on the defensive hardware, I didn't have ANY damage. She is really undergeared, though, my finesse has all but dissapeared...I need some 4.88's and a doubler solution ASAP!

In any case, if you have the opportunity to get to Paragon, I think it's a GREAT alternative for East Coast/Mid-Atlantic wheelers, and even though it's not free, the price of admission is well worth the trails. We saw trucks from VA, MD, WV, DE, NY and NJ, and even a big group from OH, so the park's reputation is well-earned.

Maybe we can get together another run up there in the near future, with people from this board?

PS: If I get any pictures sent to me, I'll post some, we're saving the best for a TT article.

BigRedFJ40
05-06-2002, 09:35 AM
Hey Henry, if you are planning on another run to Paragon let me know....... I haven't been there yet and here that it is pretty good. It wouldn't be that bad of a trip from the Albany NY area.....

60seriesguy
05-06-2002, 09:46 AM
I will, Chris! We should put together a run from people on this board, I saw more big rocks on Saturday than on the last four trips up to Catamount! :)

woody
05-06-2002, 11:20 AM
I'm participating in an event at Paragon over Memorial Day weekend this year....glad to know the challenge is as good as I've heard! Baltimore 4-Wheelers is hosting it....bunch of folks I met in Tellico at the United 2000 convention invited us...can't wait!

Red FJ
05-06-2002, 12:33 PM
I would defintely like to get a group of LC's out there. Just let me know when.

morgan
05-07-2002, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by 60seriesguy
I need some 4.88's and a doubler solution ASAP!


"Das Beast" is at Mudrak's getting a doubler right now. Isn't it about time you visited us again? :)

Morgan

60seriesguy
05-07-2002, 05:50 PM
Why, do you have a donation for the project? Seriously, I've thought about the NP203 doubler a LOT, but there are two things that keep me in doubt; 1., Gary's already overloaded schedule, and 2. the gaping hole left by the installation of the three shifters. On a daily driver, there's got to be another solution....

But seriously, Morgan, I'd love to visit again, it's been a long time. What grade is Sam in now, college?! :p

BigRedFJ40
05-08-2002, 08:53 AM
Hey Henry....... I'm in!!!!!! Just let me know when and I will be there.......:usa:

FLEXYSAMMY
05-08-2002, 09:19 AM
Hay 60seriesguy I have some pictures from the harder trails at PAP I will send them to you. I am at the park almost every weekend. Have to get a hold of me I can show you some good ones!!!

davefj40
05-08-2002, 09:26 AM
there is a cruiser event there in july, the coal miner cruiser classic. check www.gclcny.com for the info

maybe even flexy will have his truck ready by then

dave

FLEXYSAMMY
05-08-2002, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by davefj40
there is a cruiser event there in july, the coal miner cruiser classic. check www.gclcny.com for the info

maybe even flexy will have his truck ready by then

dave


Dave I sure hope so!!! I can't wate to see what Rich's rig is going to look like.

Hay RT any new pics?????

climbermike
05-08-2002, 02:42 PM
Hey Henry,
It was great to meet you on Sat. I really had a blast.

Actually, Whompum is rated a blue 3 and this Friday, we're headed back to PAP to try something different but about the same difficulty.... maybe something like Blueberry Field (or whatever it's called).

For those that haven't been to Paragon (PAP - www.paragonap.com )... they really have something to offer for everyone regardless of ability.

Henry - hit me offline at mike@myclimbinginfo.com or mike@yourlandcruiser.com with your address and I'll drop a cd overnight to you. All told, I got about 250-275 good pics from sat, but since I've moved I only have dialup :-( service. So the cd is easier than email.

Mike

CAZ
05-09-2002, 06:52 PM
Hey!

I ran into Henry at the gas station on the way out!
Nice to finally meet you, and hopefully I will see you at the GSMTR next week!

Flexy, do you have any pictures from Saturday? Hope no one got a shot of my gear oil all over the rocks :rolleyes:

I'm up for a PBB trip to Paragon! Just tell me when!

60seriesguy
05-09-2002, 07:29 PM
Nice meeting you too! Unfortunately, a new job and relocation has eliminated my chances of going to GSMTR, but the benefits of this greatly outweigh missing the event. For some reason, I've had a hard time making it to GSMTR. In 1998 I passed a kidney stone two days before leaving. In 2000 my sister graduated with a PhD (first in the family) that same weekend. And this year, with plans to attend firmly in place, I'm moving to Texas instead!

CAZ
05-09-2002, 07:36 PM
Good news, Tellico is right on your way to TX! :D

CAZ
05-09-2002, 07:39 PM
I'm participating in an event at Paragon over Memorial Day weekend this year....glad to know the challenge is as good as I've heard! Baltimore 4-Wheelers is hosting it....bunch of folks I met in Tellico at the United 2000 convention invited us...can't wait!

Hey Woody, who is the contact for this? I wouldn't mind heding down there - if I am still in one piece after the GSMTR.

CAZ

woody
05-10-2002, 05:12 AM
Baltimore 4 Wheelers are hosting
443-770-0300
21000 York Road
Parkton, Maryland 21120

There was a May1 deadline to get a t-shirt with your registration, but AFAIK know you can still register.

heh heh...changed the oil in the cruiser last night....3 quarts SAE 50, 3 bottles motor honey....outta keep my oil pressure up over 5! lol

FLEXYSAMMY
05-10-2002, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by CAZ
Hey!

I ran into Henry at the gas station on the way out!
Nice to finally meet you, and hopefully I will see you at the GSMTR next week!

Flexy, do you have any pictures from Saturday? Hope no one got a shot of my gear oil all over the rocks :rolleyes:

I'm up for a PBB trip to Paragon! Just tell me when!


Caz I don't have any but if you poke areound the PAP board you might run in to some one with them.

I just wish I had a picture of you trying to recover on the rocks after your night with Mr. S.Comfort!!!! :flipoff2: :beer: :flipoff2: :beer:

CAZ
05-10-2002, 05:57 AM
I just wish I had a picture of you trying to recover on the rocks after your night with Mr. S.Comfort!!!!

Whew! Tell me about it!

I am still embarrased about that night....

davefj40
05-10-2002, 10:24 AM
hey CAZ, i see flexy and his boys got you. there's always a whole lot of drinking going on around them.

dave

yjtj
05-10-2002, 04:37 PM
you guys should venture off the cruiser board. there is the por ultimate tour going on this summer and there is a run for por members in paragon. july 12 there will be a por ride in paragon. hope to see yah there. maybe we can get you off the mid level trails and on the good ones. i have been there enuff times to have a good collection of broken axle shafts, but im 1 ton now. undertaker is by far my favorite and i hit it everytime i go. they have opened prolly 4 hard core trails in the past year adding to what they already had. best place i have wheeled. as i said hope to see you there. look up the ultimate tour thing in the general board or contact hoyden, myself or emsoffroad for more info on the paragon ride.

Jettech
05-10-2002, 06:52 PM
I'm glad i'm out west,for 35.00 I get gas,lunch,beer,and have a few bucks left:flipoff2:

That cool that at least you have a place to go,but 35.00 every week would suck.

Rob

60seriesguy
05-11-2002, 08:19 AM
Not for long, Jettech, not for long. At the rate the sprawl is going in Colorado and if the greenies continue the pressure, it won't be long before trail closure comes to the Rockies...

People out west that think that trail closure isn't coming for them like it has on the East Coast have another thing coming....

davefj40
05-11-2002, 08:58 AM
[july 12 there will be a por ride in paragon

that's the weekend of the coal miner ride.

dave