Tha wife wants to go to Rubithon 07 with our one year boy My question is what cruiser should I take for this trip. I have a well built 40 butt not much room should I pull a traileer thruogh? Our I have A 45lpb that can be built for this. I only have one problem the wife want's too take both the 40 and 45 and I can decide which one to let her drive. Please help me on this one?

Ryan,

It is looking like Grogan, woody and I are gonna do a mall waggon run..

i'd let her drive the 40...........

I say let her drive the 40 since it will be easier to drive around tight turns.

get a baby sitter!:flipoff2:

at least until tucker is old enough to be a little more self sufficient and will actually realize what's going on and will actually remember the trip.

Ryan , I am going to bring my 6 year old daughter. Just my thoughts , witht he family on board you want to think about control and IMO you should drive and pack the family. I would make a rack for the top and put a child suspension seat in the rear. FWIW I plan on a tahoe side entry , hopefully monday with Mudrak , Tahoe boys and the Texans. Lets make a family run.

Debating the same thing myself, I'm taking my 07 FJ through & thinking of having the wife drive the 62 so we have room to sleep & carry stuff.

I think I fond my new name " Jed Clampet" Because every were I go I have all my junk with me:flipoff2:

Debating the same thing myself, I'm taking my 07 FJ through & thinking of having the wife drive the 62 so we have room to sleep & carry stuff.

That'll be fun to watch!

I think I fond my new name " Jed Clampet" Because every were I go I have all my junk with me:flipoff2:

I think FC could hook you up with a removable rack. That way when you get home you could Un-"Clampet":flipoff2:

FWIW I plan on a tahoe side entry , hopefully monday with Mudrak , Tahoe boys and the Texans. Lets make a family run.

I still think I am going to make a full run from the Cali side, just take it slow and make a 2 day run into the springs. I hate to miss the whole experience worrying about a little sheetmetal :evil:

Im coming in on the calif side as well..... Hopefully with the renegade run early in the week....

I know its early to start planning Nolan, but when do you think youll be coming out?


Chris:cool2:

I think I fond my new name " Jed Clampet" Because every were I go I have all my junk with me:flipoff2:

I thought it was because you look like Jed Clampet.... :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Im coming in on the calif side as well..... Hopefully with the renegade run early in the week....

I know its early to start planning Nolan, but when do you think youll be coming out?


Chris:cool2:

We are coming in the morning of the 21st from the CA side. We will run slow, 2 days to Rubicon Springs. I am going in at the back of the train as I will be the biggest "pig" on the trail

I still think I am going to make a full run from the Cali side, just take it slow and make a 2 day run into the springs. I hate to miss the whole experience worrying about a little sheetmetal :evil:


no soccer-mom-rigs in my group!:flipoff2:

Last time I checked, all four corners around the Rubicon were California. :D

I had a great time last year coming in at the beginning of the week through Cadillac to get a good spot in the Springs and missing all the traffic. Also let me lighten the Cruiser a bit before heading out for some more fun time.

-Dustin

Ryan, we plan on taking both rigs in, my 40 and her 62. Both will be running and are capable rigs. We plan on heading in early at Loon so that we don't hold anyone up and plan on a couple of days at Buck. It's still early and things might change but thats the plan for now.

We are coming in the morning of the 21st from the CA side. We will run slow, 2 days to Rubicon Springs. I am going in at the back of the train as I will be the biggest "pig" on the trail
I presume you mean the Loon Like side vs the Tahoe side (which is in Cali).

Thursday Breakfast run? That would be perfect for you. I'll warn Bill Jackson and the Knorr Brothers now.

We are coming in the morning of the 21st from the CA side. We will run slow, 2 days to Rubicon Springs. I am going in at the back of the train as I will be the biggest "pig" on the trail



Maybe Ill do a bonzai in with George then run out to wheel a bit with you guys too... I like the thought of wheeling without the weight like Dustin said..
This way I can get more pics too:D


Chris:cool2:

The Mall rated ones will be strong this year ;)

have a feeling they should change the name to "SOCCERMOMITHON" 07.

Last time I checked, all four corners around the Rubicon were California. :D

-Dustin

Chris should know better, I am from MS :emb2:

I may come from the Oregon side next year less traffic:flipoff2:

It's great to see the enthusiasm!

Phil Dayton of 4Wheel drive SUV has noted the 06 Rubithon article is included, and the cover shot is from the event.

I want to remind our Soccermomithon folks of the minimum requirements, at least 33s and a locker. We let that slip a little last year intentionally but plan to enforce in 07.

There will be a Tahoe Easy In run on Friday, entering from Tahoe Side. Looking for committee on that new run. Will be splitting up the Wed Breakfast group into a wagon run (Looking to Andy Pollock to lead) and Ross's group.

Sunday exit will have official committee lead by Pat Kennedy. (Been volunteers last years, Mudrak, Knorr Bros and PMK) Official this year.

We will some fly ins, will be calling for Trail Hosts to drive, feed and entertain them.

This effort gets started in January. Looking for Raffle Volunteers to assist Dave Thomas who single handedly put forth one of the best raffles ever!

Rubithon - don't take rocks for granite.

The Toyota Trails staff vehicle will be sporting (2) lockers and 33's, sir.

Ace spotter TK for NC has assured me that will will easily ply our way to the Springs in the heavy arse pig of a Cruiser.

get a baby sitter!:flipoff2:

at least until tucker is old enough to be a little more self sufficient and will actually realize what's going on and will actually remember the trip.

Mine has been doing the Rubicon since she was 9 months. Did Little Sluice and Old Sluice with baby on board. The second year I took her every trip and did it without the wife for most of them. Diaper bags on the Rubicon :barf:

Hell she's been driving since she was two!!

The 62 has never seen the sierras but I believe it is a capable. The driver has been on the trail pleanty of times in her last rig. We will be doing runs prior to Rubithon to ensure it's capability and work out any problems it may have.

I want to remind our Soccermomithon folks of the minimum requirements, at least 33s and a locker. We let that slip a little last year intentionally but plan to enforce in 07.

There will be a Tahoe Easy In run on Friday, entering from Tahoe Side. Looking for committee on that new run. Will be splitting up the Wed Breakfast group into a wagon run (Looking to Andy Pollock to lead) and Ross's group.

Sunday exit will have official committee lead by Pat Kennedy. (Been volunteers last years, Mudrak, Knorr Bros and PMK) Official this year.

We will some fly ins, will be calling for Trail Hosts to drive, feed and entertain them.

This effort gets started in January. Looking for Raffle Volunteers to assist Dave Thomas who single handedly put forth one of the best raffles ever!

Rubithon - don't take rocks for granite.

Bob's got 35's, geared and locked front and rear. He'll be fine.

So Fri there will be a early run Down Cadillac??
I might be in to help on that one. That would be easier on the family than the whole thing..

Let me know Tony.

Hey Tony, i was thinking of bringing this rig in for Rubithon. What ya think? It has a diesel...............:flipoff2:

Cruzilla... seems a shame to trash such a pristine cruiser...

and Jason M... you're hired. (be careful about what you wish for)

Your right my wife would keel me. Cruzila it is.

Cruzilla... seems a shame to trash such a pristine cruiser...

and Jason M... you're hired. (be careful about what you wish for)
Thinking wheel in from the loon side earlier that week and then drive up cadillac to lead (or help whatever) the fri soccer mom run. That will let me stock up on Ice and more Beer :D


Woody might be up for it as well. But I cannot speak for him.

Cruzila we can do a stocker run:flipoff2:

Thinking wheel in from the loon side earlier that week and then drive up cadillac to lead (or help whatever) the fri soccer mom run. That will let me stock up on Ice and more Beer :D
Woody might be up for it as well. But I cannot speak for him.

Got your message on the phone, I am going to stick with the plan of coming in on Thursday and making a 2 day run to the Springs with Mark Hawley and crew. My co-pilot TK has is all figured out...

Its really not that difficult if you take your time, wagons should have some of "sliders" or you can expect damage to bottom of the doors, depending on how high the truck is lifted. If its your first time, see the whole trail... it really is worth it!

This run going to be available on 07?

Woody and I could run this one and then lead the soccer mom run down cadillac on fri.


Makes it nice and relaxed


"Run 1 Wednesday 10:00 am Breakfast Run
Fee: $100.00

Depart Robb’s resort after breakfast at 10:00 am. Trail leaders Ross Kuzma and crew.

This new run is being created due to the success of the Thursday Breakfast Run! Meet at Robb’s resort on Wednesday for a complete breakfast for 2 before you leave for the trail at 10 AM. This group will enjoy a leisurely pace to either Buck Island Lake or Rubicon Springs. "

All i have to say is damn you guys are planning already! sheesh

Where are you guys getting the info for Rubithon? I know stupid newb question... I want to try and make it this year... will have lockers installed over this winter and I'll be good to go.. :)

www.rubithon.com

www.rubithon.com
that is the 2006 data

I want to ship my truck to the closest LC shop, near the start of the trail, then fly in later to run the trails. So, is Placerville the closest or is Mudrak's shop the closest?

Trent-Fab is a few miles from the tahoe side of the trail. Mudrak is probably 3 hours drive time from the trail.
PMK

Trent-Fab is a few miles from the tahoe side of the trail. Mudrak is probably 3 hours drive time from the trail.
PMK

So, I would have to drive through the trail to get to Loon Lake? I saw this on the registration form:

All runs depart from Loon Lake except the breakfast runs.

So, is Loon Lake close to Placerville or are there any LC shops there? Is that where the raffle is being held? Mudrak's is too far a drive for a trail rig running drive slugs up front. Thanks!

Not quit understanding the fee's associated with the trail runs??? Can someone clue me in?

thx
kj

I think all the runs you would be interrested in start at Loon, and drive the 14ish miles to the springs. Placerville is closest to Loon. Theres a ton of Cruiser people in the Pollock Pines/ Camino/ Placerville area which you might also hook up with if you cant find a shop.

Your flight options are to either fly into South Lake from a connector flight, or direct into Reno or Sacramento.

If you fly into Reno or South lake and pick up at Trents-
Trent Fab is Tahoe side, so you would need to drive through the springs back to Loon (doing the trail "backwards") - or take hwy 50 to Pollock Pines, then to Loon. Probably a 3 hour drive?

If your rig is in Placerville/ etc- you would fly into Sacramento and drive an hour to your rig. Then another 45 min to Loon.

-Dustin

Hamma , Tfab gets you close to Tahoe side entry. This route is taken by Mudraks crew and they run the trail all the way to loon to pick up Mudraks wed. entry group at loon then run back to springs. I would highly recommend this if you have time. It all depends on when you come. In any event contact Derek at Tfab as that will be a good spot to get to after event to ship rig out of.

Yea, If you're coming from Ga, you may as well get the "E" ticket and take the full ride! It's a whole different trail running it backwards.

Drive slugs, even from P-ville, would suck. pville to loon is quite a ways, mapquest says 52 miles, 1.5 hours.

In order to get where you started (if that is your plan), you will either have to run the trail backwards or go around the long way on hwy 50.
PMK

So, I would have to drive through the trail to get to Loon Lake? I saw this on the registration form:

All runs depart from Loon Lake except the breakfast runs.

So, is Loon Lake close to Placerville or are there any LC shops there? Is that where the raffle is being held? Mudrak's is too far a drive for a trail rig running drive slugs up front. Thanks!

that is the 2006 data

And yet, that IS the web site where that info came from -- i.e. Wed Breakfast run

Not quit understanding the fee's associated with the trail runs??? Can someone clue me in?

thx
kj

As noted those were 2006 fees. TOny hasn't set the 2007 fees. Some runs were discounted to get more people on that. The breakfast runs included food at Ice house, so they were more. Premier pack got you TLCA membership and other goodies.l

the tri-tip only comes with the premier package tho;)

the tri-tip only comes with the premier package tho;)

totally eyeballin that also as I would love to fly my Dad down for the trip - gotta impress pops :D and from what I can see its money well spent.

Does the premier package come wheeling tickets? :flipoff2:

IIRC, in the past the premier package covers all, including two shirts, saturday breakfasts, and dinners, a windbreaker, and TLCA first class membership...... I'm sure Tony will jump in and elaborate or correct me....
PMK

totally eyeballin that also as I would love to fly my Dad down for the trip - gotta impress pops :D and from what I can see its money well spent.

Does the premier package come wheeling tickets? :flipoff2:

The premier includes a big smile all weekend:D

And yet, that IS the web site where that info came from -- i.e. Wed Breakfast run
Yes Ross that is where I got that info from, that direct site, but that was last years info and why I was asking if it was going to be run this year as well.

I don't care what the fees are, I just asked if the run would be duplicated this year.

Robb’s is closed on Wednesdays we departed from Ice House and don’t speed around Ice House Bob will have words with you!

Wow, you guys are early this year. As noted, the 07 info has not even been updated on the web site yet.

Dates, June 20 to 24th (weekend after fathers day)

Wednesday breakfast run still evaluating
Wednesday wagon run still evaluating
Thursday morning straight thru 7 AM
Thursday morning breakfast run 10 AM
Thursday bootleg run (Georg) noonish
Friday morning Loon 7 AM
Friday Tahoe easy in

No saturday runs, everyone should be in or entering the Springs

Friday night - committee and event awards, Maruader Bar
Saturday night - BBQ dinner, Raffle, music

Sunday Exit strategy, groups leave from 8 AM thru 10:30 AM in an organized fashion so Everyone gets out.

I am going to try and hold the same event fee structure, although I do believe these will go up possibly in 07 or for sure in 08.
Breakfast runs $100 (higher cost due to ice house breakfast)
Formal groups $70
bootleg or rogue groups $75 (must coordinate entry time)
Or the Premier Pack, any run, $200.00 includes event fee, two T-shirts, two Saturday morning breakfasts, two Sat night dinners, (two breakfast if on breakfast run), TLCA membership (or renewal added to your expiration date), an event jacket (light windbreaker with cotton lining) and an extra grand prize raffle ticket. Now this is a very good value if on a breakfast run and bringing along a passenger, and you want two of everything.

Comiittee has only pricing package but they work their butt off.

New Rule for 2007 and beyond... All Passengers must have Gloves as the ready. Will be part of safety tech inspection. A pair of gloves right there and when your passenger exits to stack rocks, gloves must be worn.
In 2006, I was very proud of our No Drinking on the Trail and how everyone cooperated as this is a formal event, and I was very proud of everyone keeping their dogs on a leash. However, our safety record in 06 was terrible and I am very disappointed with the amount of hand and finger injuries. One was very serious and thanks to our First Aid committee (and you Samantha), the folks in the emergencry room noted it would be saved. Yes, it was bad.
So this year, I am asking folks stacking rocks to wear some gloves or hand protection to avoid these types of injuries. No one should attend rubithon and go home hurt.

More to come...

I want to ship my truck to the closest LC shop, near the start of the trail, then fly in later to run the trails. So, is Placerville the closest or is Mudrak's shop the closest?


Check out Hangtown Extreme in Placerville. 530-622-1412 They would be one of the closest and support the Friends of the Rubicon. that to me is becoming most important when I decide who gets my business. Josh is the service writer and Jeff is the owner.

I have a cruiser here from New York maybe I could do a "rental deal" :rolleyes: :grinpimp:

Tony, maybe you should consider rock rollers or assign people to the less experienced. Gloves are cool, but will still allow that finger to be smashed. It is all about knowing how things move.

Chuck..I second the recommendation of shipping to Trent Fabrication in Tahoe City and registering for Mudrak's Double Locker run. More trail time (backwards and forward) and great folks.

I agree. And if you've never run it before and prob wont again for a long time, you should do it forward and backward. It feels like two different trails.

-Dustin

If you have the time... go both ways, you'll see stuff you'd miss going one way. We've done it like that for the last 5 years... no better way.
is it too early to get excited ?????

Tony, maybe you should consider rock rollers or assign people to the less experienced. Gloves are cool, but will still allow that finger to be smashed. It is all about knowing how things move.

My first year (2 years ago) that is what the trail committe did with me. Had me follow an experienced driver that had a similar rig all the way to the springs. That was Neil Wilkendorf at Family Adventure Outfitters. Worked out great and now were friends to boot.

As for fingers they crush easy whether in gloves or not. I think leaving the spotting and directions to be given, for rock rolling etc., to the trail committee is the best. An inexperienced person should not be placing rocks. Make it part of the drivers meeting before the run starts. As for rock rollers on the trail start to finish. The exit strategy with spotters works great. If it was to be done anywhere else, I would pick the spot with the most back up. But then again as Pismo Jim has said, " This ain't no Jamboree".

Thanks Tony, that is what I was looking for. You can still count on me for the Fri Soccer run down Cadillac. I am hoping that there will be a waggon/breakfast on wed.


Mace

Just thought I'd bring this back to the top.The time is getting nearer!:)

That's funny I was looking for this post to day.

the tri-tip only comes with the premier package tho;)

Eating Ross Woody's Tri-tip was well worth the 2400 mile commute... :D

Charles -- your fixation on my meat is disturbing ;)

And, really, it's a collaboration -- Terry Henly and Jim Job buy it and marinate it. Glenn and a few others always help roll the meat across the grills. It's really not just me.

60 days to go...

If you can, bring a small or large raffle prize to contribute to the raffle. Last year lots of people brought in prizes to the event which is what made the raffle so good. If you or your company have a specialized part that you make for Land Cruisers or Mini trucks or what ever, fab one up and donate it to the raffle. Don't have a part that you make? Be creative. Tools, parts (not used broken parts), wine, beer, gift certificate etc.

If you want to donate something that is heavy, say an Orion Transfer Case for example, and don't want to haul it in yourself, send me a pm and we can arrange to have it brought in with the other raffle items.

Thanks,
Dave Thomas
Rubithon Raffle Dude

... say an Orion Transfer Case for example...

very subtle

oh ya, Rubithon! Knew I was supposed to be working on something!

Wagon run is full, all other runs wide open.

Spotter/passenger to have gloves. The thought is: By putting on the gloves, it will help remind folks to watch out for their fingers. This is not a debate whether or not they can save your finger, it is simply a safety rule, to help everyone stay focused on safety and returning with all their fingernails.

Yes, slow down through Ice House resort, or you will hear from Bob, then I will hear from Bob, yadda yadda yadda. Ever met the guy? You don't want to.

Marlin Crawler will be performing the sweep run again. If you want to run on Marlin's group, contact Marlin directly. They leave, and arrive, on Marlin time.

That is all I can think of right now. the clock is ticking...

Bob really is a nice guy.

LukeZero, you are still a go for Wed afternoon pick up in South Lake, Yes ?
Sounds like Mace has you covered on the ride up and out to Reno, cool. Just remember that that part of it is your decision and I in no way encouraged you to ride with or be subjected to the Mace, who knows what will happen.

Bob really is a nice guy.


Yes he is actually, unless he's PO'ed about folks racing through the lot just so they can 'shake hands with their buddies' as Bob would say.

For the sake of safety, and the safety of our good relations with Ice House, slow down.

The real question now is... how am I going to replace Cruzila if you are unable to attend this year??

LukeZero, you are still a go for Wed afternoon pick up in South Lake, Yes ?
Sounds like Mace has you covered on the ride up and out to Reno, cool. Just remember that that part of it is your decision and I in no way encouraged you to ride with or be subjected to the Mace, who knows what will happen.

That's the plan. I still could move my inbound flight to Tuesday instead of Wednesday if that fits better. I don't know Mace, hell, for that matter I don't know you either. If you guys turn out to be assholes, I'll just walk back towards Reno and hitch a ride towards the airport.:flipoff2:

Oh, they're assholes, but don't let that get in the way. They're assholes in the good sense of the term ;)

Your exit plan should be fine.

yep, assholes.

but don't let that stop you! It doesn't stop us from inviting them back!

The real question now is... how am I going to replace Cruzila if you are unable to attend this year??

No Scott??:confused:

When did I start becoming THE Mace?!?!?!?

Bastages :flipoff2:

You know, like when you break hard and everyone yells " Maced it ".

Asshole, well , yup , prolly has been known to happen. I'll try to keep quiet, attitude usually improves around 4:20.

Stoner!

Just thought I'd bring this back to the top.The time is getting nearer!:)

Ken
Hope to you up there.
Which run are you on?
Mike

Can't prove it.
Did you Register yet ?

Ken
Hope to you up there.
Which run are you on?
Mike

I hope to make it Mike,just won't be in my 40.My junk is ripped apart as of now.Don't think it will be put back together in time.:(
My thumbs out lookin to hitch a ride!

Ken,
Good luck on the ride. My daughter bailed on me last year so I went solo but she plans on going this year or I would try to hook you up.
Mike

I hope to make it Mike,just won't be in my 40.My junk is ripped apart as of now.Don't think it will be put back together in time.:(
My thumbs out lookin to hitch a ride!

Ken
I have a tentative passenger right now.. He's going to let me know in the next couple weeks.

If he winds up not going the seat is yours if you wish.. I'll let you know as soon as I find out.

CJ is not going...Don't feel like having to keep an eye on him the whole time..so there will be plenty room.

Ohh one thing.. Dave and I were discussing leaving on Saturday late.. not sunday.

cheers
Mark

Perhaps I am the last to know...

But I am almost giddy with excitement...

I just found out one of our 'special guests'. I will not devulge his name, as I expect he will announce his intentions to attend when he is ready.

Nolan, I want you to please confirm you plans and your passengers (privately). Not sure I fully understand the plan. Have not seen anything from you guys. Toss me a bone.

and Pismo Jim... no, I better just shut up... but you are going to have an excellent time! (well, I think so at least.)

and not to jump the gun, but 2008 will be a banner year for Rubithon!

50 day countdown, should be a great run this year!

Perhaps I am the last to know...

But I am almost giddy with excitement...

I just found out one of our 'special guests'. I will not devulge his name, as I expect he will announce his intentions to attend when he is ready.




Ok, so you threw the line in the water and set the hook. Come on, dont screw around, fess up.:confused:

Mark and I will be attending Rubithon this year. It will be my first at the rubicon.

Now my real dillema is who wants to carry my spare propane tank? :flipoff2:

As of right now I should have an open seat for a passenger.

LT, I believe Mace has the low down on exactly how much pane you will need to run the trail thru.

Tony, nice build up.

Any confirmations goin out yet ?

Perhaps I am the last to know...

But I am almost giddy with excitement...

I just found out one of our 'special guests'. I will not devulge his name, as I expect he will announce his intentions to attend when he is ready.

Jesse James?

Paul Teutel?

Boyd Coddington?


C'mon man, don't leave us hanging!

LT, I believe Mace has the low down on exactly how much pane you will need to run the trail thru.

Tony, nice build up.

Any confirmations goin out yet ?

Mace's junk is like an asian whore when it comes to sucking down propane :flipoff2:

Ok, so you threw the line in the water and set the hook. Come on, dont screw around, fess up.:confused:


hehe... ya, that was an aweful trick. but I just can't do it. Besides, everyone else might not find it a big deal... but I do.

I expect confirmations to go out within the next two weeks. I did not make it to the PO box last weekend but will for sure this weekend. All runs open except wagon run.

First batch of CC info has been submitted. Expect to finalize artwork soon.
Still lots of other stuff to do, long laundry list for this weekend.

All work and no play makes Tony a dull boy. Just ask Cindy!
and of course, my wife Cindy will be attending Rubithon this year so be sure to tell her thanks for all her help, and tolerating me. :rolleyes:

I just found out one of our 'special guests'...

and Pismo Jim... no, I better just shut up... but you are going to have an excellent time! (well, I think so at least.)


Could it be my hero:

Don Julio ???

and his back-up band?

http://www.esmexico.com/fotografias/estados/06_colima/colima/06_colima_mariachis_2.jpg

or...
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Gary Coleman has been making a comeback.....

Guessing game, I'm in!

My guess goes for either someone on the TLCA Hall of Fame list, or maybe someone from a future list like Mark Whatley.:)

Former Secretary General of the UN.





Boutros Boutros -Ghali?:flipoff2:


I don't know if he likes LandCruisers- I just like to say his name.

I love it when Tony gets giddy...

My Guess -- Gary Bjork -- But that will be a tough one given circumstances.

I know Gary's 40 will be there, but it'll be piloted by HANGTOWNCRUZER.

Mushro:smokin:

Mushro wouldn't make it out of the Springs alive.

Sounds like Jason M isn't going to make it after all.... which means I need transport from the Reno airport out to the meet-up Wednesday afternoon. (or I can move that flight if I need to).

Anyone coming through there at about that time?

Thanks, Luke

Keep me posted Luke. More important is getting back to Reno from Tahoe. ?

Take a shuttle over the hill to a casino comin in.

I wanna finalize this stuff asap.

Luke,

I can probably take you out. I'm going out Sat. after the dinner. My co-pilot has a flight leaving Sunday morning at 6:30 or so. I can't remember exactly but I know it is really early. It is a back seat in an 80 so it isn't too terrible. Although you might have to listen to my 4 year old son ramble on and on about Jeeps being Junk and their broken axles. Shoot me an email I'm sure we can work something out. I'm going out to the trailhead late Tues. night. His flight gets in at 1045 PM Tuesday night and we are on the wagon run leaving early Wed AM.

Trying to get the guys together for a run in my 60.........

Trying to get the guys together for a run in my 60.........

Tail Gunner :smokin:


Keep 'em moving up head...

Gotta love the big guns with flip flops.

Luke,

I can probably take you out. I'm going out Sat. after the dinner. My co-pilot has a flight leaving Sunday morning at 6:30 or so. I can't remember exactly but I know it is really early. It is a back seat in an 80 so it isn't too terrible. Although you might have to listen to my 4 year old son ramble on and on about Jeeps being Junk and their broken axles. Shoot me an email I'm sure we can work something out. I'm going out to the trailhead late Tues. night. His flight gets in at 1045 PM Tuesday night and we are on the wagon run leaving early Wed AM.

I might take you up on the ride out... my flight (as set right now) leaves at 4:40pm Sunday the 24th....we'll have to see what makes the best sense with the least hassle.

The ride in, for me right now is to land at 1:15pm Wednesday. I can move that flight to Tuesday if that makes everyone elses life easier. I'm not sweating it yet- I'm sure it'll all work out. Johns idea of taking a casino shuttle to South Tahoe might work better rather than making someone go all the way North through Reno just to pick me up.

Thanks, Luke

I am sorry..
:(

Tail Gunner :smokin:


Keep 'em moving up head...

Nothing says, "MOVE YOUR ASS !!!" like the "Ma Duce" :laughing:

I had planned on going in with Scott, but thats not happening, you lucky bass..., anyways, I am looking for someone that would like to go in on Tuesday AM, either side. I will be doing medic this year and also have to get the bear cage set up by Wednesday. If anyone has room, I'll buy gas and beverages. I can't come earlier, due to being on a cruise until Monday. I'm so getting divorced. A batch party on a cruise and then a week on the con, without her. I'm thing might cost me 1/2!!!!

Sent you a PM Eric.:) How did this slip to the bottom of page 2?

Nobody else is guessing on the 'special' guest?

Second guess: Ehsan!

Sent you a PM Eric.:)
Nobody else is guessing on the 'special' guest?

Second guess: Ehsan!

Now, THAT would be cool!!

I know there are guys coming over from Germany and France.

I know Eric has a "co-pilot" --- what was the name of the guy the flew for Fed Ex?

I know there are guys coming over from Germany and France.

I know Eric has a "co-pilot" --- what was the name of the guy the flew for Fed Ex?

Shaun O'Leary.....

Md11 Freightdog is his PBB handle:p

It isn't a guessing game. And it isn't really a secret, I just figured if he wanted you to know he'd say something.

Sean O'Leary rode with me at CM 02. Wow! That was a long time ago. And it isn't him.

At CM O5 I hosted a guy from Australia. That was sort of a trip.

CM 06 I dragged a buddy along, one of the founders of Dakota Territory Cruisers and NW Cruisers of Idaho. He was in one of the CA clubs in the 80s.

I pretty much drag anyone along on these adventures who will come. I even have dragged our school janitor out on a few runs.

If Ehsan flies over I will find room for him! Remember I have one of those cargo liner cruisers. Mine isn't mall rated or a Luxo Liner as I don't have leather.

Gabe, my 4 year old, is riding backseat driver. Boy will he be telling tall LC tales after this adventure. If you meet him be sure to ask him his opinion on Jeeps. I did not teach him anything, it is all based on his observations.

This whole ordeal is turning into a major expedition for us. Tuesday leave, pick up some folks in Reno late 10:45PM, Drive to S. Lake Tahoe CRASH, get up stumble to the door still half a sleep and book it to Loon. I'm even putting on my predented driveshaft on in the airport parking lot. This thing is turning into an odyssey. Sat. evening leave for Reno probably right after dinner as the "co-pilot" has a flight out at 6??? AM.

Then I pick the wife up at the airport in Reno. Head to Vacaville to visit some friends. Then we were going to head North to see the Redwoods but it sounds like we might go south and meet some friends from MH at Legoland. Which means the trip turned south some how. Anyway, imagine the Clampitts heading to Beverly Hills! I've never driven in California other than around Lake Tahoe. Remember I live in one of the rural Western States. I don't know where all we are going. Maybe Disneyland? But we are going to SOR as that is sort of one of those places for LC tourists. After Legoland, off to Vegas and then across the desert and home. We might run gravel all the way from Vegas home.

And yes all of this when GAS PRICES are at an ALL TIME HIGH. More than double than when I started legally driving 20 years ago. The good thing is I have to go to some in-service training for 3 days in June and the school district got a grant so I get a $500 stipend for that so that should offset the fuel costs back to normal (well at least to Idaho prices at $3.16/gallon). Last night I installed new 02 sensors. Gotta milk every 1/4 mile to the gallon increase I can.

So not only am I making a pilgrimige for my first Rubithon but I'm making a pilgrimige deep into the beginning roots of TLCA.

I suppose I'm going to have to add mudflaps on my list of pre-California trip mods with all the highway (whatever you guys call those multi-lane roads out there) I'm doing. My Idaho tear off flaps got tore off.

Sorry I got a little long winded there. I'm just very excited. I've been waiting 10 years to make it to this trail.

If you need a place to stay when you head north for the redwoods PM me. I can put you up at the worldmark in windsor.

Sent you a PM Eric.:) How did this slip to the bottom of page 2?

Nobody else is guessing on the 'special' guest?

Second guess: Ehsan!
I am surely noone "Special" but would have loved to join up.. Maybe next year.. Would surprise you.. :).. Thanks for remembering me.
Ehsan

I am doing a little survey job for Mark Smith in Georgetown. He organizes Jeep Jamboree. During the conversation he was telling me how Chrysler was providing 35 Rubicon jeeps for all the big wigs from Chrysler to use during this year's events. The whole JJ is a real big event for Chrysler and Jeep. Lots exposure and lots of big $$ flowing around the event. Why can't Toyota throw some cash at the Rubithon like Chrysler does for the jeeps? We get a few FJ cruisers that are driven by 'professionals'. The only thing the FJs did was irratate a lot of people. If wasn't for greenfox saving their butts a couple of times, they would still be stuck at Elise Creek. Will we be seeing more FJs from 'Toyota' at Rubithon this year?

Wow Bill --- Weren't you on the Thursday run? Didn't the Trail Team come in on the Wednesday run?

Yeah, the trail team was slower, but seriously, did you talk with Chris or Ron or Gustaf or any of the others on the team? They were told no body damage -- makes the trail just a wee bit tougher.

On a scale of money invested on "wheeling events" vs # of vehicles produced -- there is much more money available to Jeep over Toyota.

Ultimately, for Toyota, they are only targetting 60,000 vehicles/year. They are very happy with their results, and the return on their investment. They are hitting their target audience(s).

I talked with Tony this past weekend. I don't think the Trail Team has signed up yet, but there will be FJ Cruisers on this year's run. It's just time to deal with it. They are within our ranks. They share our trails.

Bill; come on arnt ya being a little harsh on the fj guys, they were with us on the wed. breakfast run and they were a little slower, but I remember a couple of 80 series going just as slow if not SLOWER and not wanting to trust their spotters. Besides they were pretty much stock, how hard would it be to bring a stock fj 55 through? I wouldnt want to be there!
see ya in june!

Anyone goin back out to Loon Sunday VS. headin up Cadillac?

I know there are PMC guys that run it reverse on Sunday. James Henry is one, for sure.

There'll be lots of people with trailer rigs running backwards on Saturday night/Sunday, Josh.

I will be coming in Friday night. Not sure when. I hate the traffic leaving the Bay.

There'll be lots of people with trailer rigs running backwards on Saturday night/Sunday, Josh.

My rig is being parked in Diamond Springs (in-laws place). I would really like to be part of a backward run out as well. Would be a lot easier then driving home from South Lake. :) I was thinking to leave bright and early that Sunday morning.

I will be going backwards this year because I have no forward gears.

I will be going backwards this year because I have no forward gears.


:laughing: You could always flip your diffs:D

Anyone else goin back to Loon sunday morning? PM me , I'll complile a list and post it later

if I go, I will also be exiting out loon Sunday.

cheers-
Dustin

if I go, I will also be exiting out loon Sunday.

what do you mean if...

Dustin,do you have an open seat?
I need to find a ride!

Ken- its yours if I can make it! I need to figure this out still. I will need to bail on Sunday for sure. Prob head in on Friday or Thurs from Tahoe like last year.

cheers!
Dustin

Ken- its yours if I can make it! I need to figure this out still. I will need to bail on Sunday for sure. Prob head in on Friday or Thurs from Tahoe like last year.

cheers!
Dustin

That works for me!Keep me informed.I can also provide truck with trailer to the trailhead!:D

awesome duistin, i was hoping you were going..... and i was hoping ken would find a ride:grinpimp:


spamman called a couple days ago , he can't get the time off..... so him and vinny aren;t gonna make it..... bummer:(

looking forward to draggin my wagon along the trail.....:grinpimp:

As we get closer, I'll know better, but it's looking like I'll have a seat free on the Wednesday double locker run. My son decided to fracture his clavicle (sp?). Doc says 4 -6 weeks.... I'm sure bouncing around the 'con won't treat his shoulder nice...

Keep it in the back of your mind, we'll know more later

Any new 411 on the fire situation ?
Were fires O.K. over memorial weekend ?

Looking like Im out.... Way too much on my plate to make this run this year.. :(


Runburg, sorry to miss you this year. Was loking forward to seeing you again.

Heck, I was looking forward to seeing most everyone this year... Im really going to regret this but there are things I need to take care of at home first...

Ya'll travel safe and post lots of pics when you get back...


Chris:(

Greg and I are joining the Thursday BFast run :D
I'll see how well she does going in, before I start thinking about heading out backwards...

Tony,
Put me down for some more Ice Cream Certs. :D

During the 3 day weekend, fires were allowed with permits. Tickets were issued for fires without permits.

Tickets were also issued for camping on the bluffs at Loon, and for camping on the bluffs at Buck. All these situations were where the truck was parked further than 25 feet from teh trail centerline. the problem with the bluffs at Loon, is the trail is no where to be found in many areas. Suggest not camping on the bluffs... tickets are $175 and there was Move Your Truck option offered.

If camping the night prior, suggest along the lake or other formal camping areas.

Confirmations sent out Saturday, will send out another batch this saturday.


Chris, bummed you cannot make it.
Manny... thank you!

In the 'Mud thread, our "special guest" has been revealed -- A certain Henry C will be on board Eric V's 80.

Good times, good times :)

I'm in the thursday breakfast run. I'll probably be going back out loon on sunday because I hate driving all the way around. I'm pretty sure I can get from the springs to loon faster than I can get around tahoe and back onto 50. It's more fun that way as well. :D

So , get a permit and camp at the campground at loon. Is the campground just a drive in, pick a spot and pay the ironhorse ?

Well, Tom and I should be heading up there Wednesday evening or so. Anyone who is coming from out of town/state are more than welcome to crash here Tuesday night, or Sunday/Monday night. We have plenty of room and couches and room to park your rig/trailer or work on your junk if need be.

mike

edit: we're about 2.5 hours or so from loon.

In the 'Mud thread, our "special guest" has been revealed -- A certain Henry C will be on board Eric V's 80.

Good times, good times :)

He's really confused. He's driving :D

spamman called a couple days ago , he can't get the time off..... so him and vinny aren;t gonna make it..... bummer:(
Bummer... haven't seen the :spam: brothers in a while...

Is that Mike and Dale ? It won't be rubithon without them .

Is that Mike and Dale ? It won't be rubithon without them .
Nope... you're thinking about the Knorr bros. (55 Guy & Splitpea on pbb)

Great Manny! We can use another trail leader wannabe:laughing:

Greg and I are joining the Thursday BFast run :D
I'll see how well she does going in, before I start thinking about heading out backwards...

Tony,
Put me down for some more Ice Cream Certs. :D

Great Manny! We can use another trail leader wannabe:laughing:

Uncle Mike...I could use some back-up here :confused:

Don't worry Bill,
This time I'll have my cone washer removal tool for those impromptu birfield inspections :D

can't believe I almost forgot about that :laughing:

our group will be going out thru loon on sunday morning.:)

our group will be going out thru loon on sunday morning.:)

Georg, you taking Isabell this year?

Last years exit was fun and adventurous. I'll never take that right toward Wentworth again. :) Hopefully this years exit will be a little quicker.

cheers!
Dustin

trying.......

trying.......

Cool:cool: i'd love to see her up.

trying.......

Need to try harder. :flipoff2:

Hey, he's only got 1 good side.

Hey, he's only got 1 good side.
I heard he was ambidexterious.:D

I got
you covered MANNY !!!:shaking::shaking::shaking:
YOU can DO IT !!!!! amigo ?:mr-t::mr-t:

Manny I will be looking out for you too. I will be starting an hour or so after you so I will see you about Ellis creek:flipoff2:

Manny I will be looking out for you too. I will be starting an hour or so after you so I will see you about Ellis creek:flipoff2:
Is this going to be Manny's (rigs) maiden voyage on the 'Con ???
(thought it's been there before ?)

nope, he was with our group a couple of years ago.

we'll catch up to him at gate keeper! :laughing:

Rick,

I asked for Uncle Mike to give me a hand, cause Bill was messing w/me...and family always sticks together.
Ryan (aka Grizzlyfox) is just getting back into Hero mode, cause you know those fjc's are going to need it :D

this will be my 4th Rubithon, 2nd time driving...
here's a pic from when I was a rookie, guess which year it was?

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/mr_manny/river4.jpg


Does your grin last just as long as the 1st time?

See you guys on the trail :D

Rick,

I asked for Uncle Mike to give me a hand, cause Bill was messing w/me...and family always sticks together.
Ryan (aka Grizzlyfox) is just getting back into Hero mode, cause you know those fjc's are going to need it :D

this will be my 4th Rubithon, 2nd time driving...
here's a pic from when I was a rookie, guess which year it was?

Does your grin last just as long as the 1st time?

See you guys on the trail :D


That must have been back when you didnt have power steering... :laughing:

Okay... now I get it :laughing:

I know you've been on Rubithon's before, but I've always seen you riding shotgun... so I'm going to guess the pic was taken the year before last, when my rig was on jackstands :emb: (don't wait until the last minute to install ARBs :shaking:)

The silly :D... mine started when I filled out my registration form :laughing:

(thought it's been there before ?)



I seem to remember Mr Manny making it in virtually solo when his group was forced to retreat.

The story has turned to legend... Riding solo, braving the elements, steadfast when all else had turned tail... challenging and conquering the mighty Rubicon Trail...

all so he could help in the kitchen. What a guy! What a kitchen crew!


Sorry, I got lost in the moment there. :shaking:

Manny "2005"

Manny in the borrowed pants!

was that the year i guided you straight into the rock that broke the shit-pipe tail light protector?! :confused:



bawahahahahaha! :laughing:

Was that the year Orange turned tail and ran 'cus his diapers were full and he didn't bring spares?

Manny you were a trooper. He worked all night on his rig then got to Loon with no tent or pants,still with a smile on his face. What ever happened to Marks pillow? See everyone at the springs.

Where is the pic with Georg in his diapers:flipoff2:

Looking forward to another year of memories on the con.
So glad all of you guys are a part of that...:D


to another year of memories :beer:

see you on the trail.

Manny, iirc, I took that picture for you? 2005, the year of the rain/snow/mud/fun. Things memories are made of(oops, preposition at the end of a sentence) How memories are made:p Looking forward to seeing you there.

Remember, bring gloves for your passenger.

Processing a flurry of late arrivals...

I plan on bringing a bunch of gloves for those that don't. Cheapo, Home Depot gloves, ~$2 pair.

Remember, bring gloves for your passenger.

Processing a flurry of late arrivals...

thanks Bill!

also, remember everyone, you can camp almost anywhere, but trucks need to remain in the 50' swath of trail, or 25' of centerline...


Rubicon Trail Camping Info

Camping is allowed anywhere along the trail and at the Loon Lake Staging area. Be advised, stay within 50' of the centerline of the trail. $275 fine for driving or camping off the trail on either side by 25'. No camping within100' of water/Lakes/Rivers.
* Link to detailed GPS co-ordinates. Get this info and don't get lost! Go!
More from Del:
Rubicon Trail Restrictions (50 feet Right of Way)
By Court Order (due to a lawsuit filed in 2005 against the USDA Forest Service), all vehicles must remain within 25 feet of centerline of the Rubicon Trail -- a non-maintained county road.
In other words, the USFS property on both sides of the Rubicon Trail are temporarily closed to vehicles. You must keep your vehicle within the county easement (50 feet total). Signs are up but are not always reliable. FOTR and county Sheriff personnel try to keep the signage current, but you can't count on it. You must know where the trail is.
Buy books; use a current map; download GPS info from reliable souces; follow the signs; and learn where the real trail is before you go.
Fines range from $175 to $275 or more for violations of the 50 foot easement (25 feet of centerline).
Note: you can camp or walk any where you want; you just can't take your vehicle outside the easement. This does not apply to private property such as the Rubicon Soda Springs area.

courtesy of Del Albright and Rock Dawg Andy.

"No camping within 100' of water/Lakes/Rivers."
This needs some clairification. If we are to obey this, then that would rule out camping just about anywhere around Buck Island. The traditional camping area below the damn and along the creek would fall into the 100'. Is Buck Island camping area closed? Is Buck Island a PG&E reservior and then private property? Buck Island does drain down into Loon via PG&E's tunnel which would seem to make it PG&E's property. .

i was wondering the same thing....... also i noticed it said temporarily closed ......does this meen this stupidity is possibly temp?




"No camping within 100' of water/Lakes/Rivers."
This needs some clairification. If we are to obey this, then that would rule out camping just about anywhere around Buck Island. The traditional camping area below the damn and along the creek would fall into the 100'. Is Buck Island camping area closed? Is Buck Island a PG&E reservior and then private property? Buck Island does drain down into Loon via PG&E's tunnel which would seem to make it PG&E's property. .

Great idea on the gloves Tony. I smashed a finger @$#$%!!!! stacking rocks last August (during a solo trip to Coyote lake in the 80 Series - while trying to be "proactive" and avoid a big stuck. I'm telling Katherine don't worry honey, this is cake for the 80 series, while I thinking damn this is tough, I wish I had a winch or another rig with us.)

The only good??? part of smashing a finger was I was constantly reminded of the great trip everytime I looked at my nail-less finger for the next 2-3 months. :eek:

Glad to hear you're processing late app's but I sure wish people would get their stuff in to you earlier. You're a good sport, thanks for all you do to put this together. I hope you're not sitting with a Cruiser up on blocks waiting for parts delivery like me. One of these days, I be ready early - yeah right.

Oh yeah, I picked up a passenger so get me another breakfast Bro.



Just Kidding...


:grinpimp::shaking::grinpimp:

But I did get a passenger.

See ya soon,

If you registered prior to the cutoff, or close, confirmations went out today. If you have just registered (late), drop me an email for confirmation of simply show up.

Again, nothing is guaranteed after the cut off except a good time.

I have 35 late registrations. (picture me shaking my head, and rolling my eyes). However, I am certainly glad everyone is coming to Rubithon!

If you have an ipod, and a set of tunes, bring it and take your seat as DJ...
if you have extra alcohol, bring it for Marauder bar.
If you have an extra raffle prize, bring it for Dave Thomas and some lucky winner.
if you don't have a fan shroud, fabricate and install now!
If you have an attitude, leave it at home.

Remember, gloves for passenger, safety is our top priority, followed by fun!

I'm bringing my positive attitude. :mr-t: I'm so excited. I figure I'll be able to sleep a few more days before the rush kicks in.

The Cruiser should be done on Wednesday. I feel like a 40 guy. Last minute projects. I installed new gears. That turned into a whole week project. New brakes, new lube, new grease and seals in the wheel bearings front and rear. Now that is back together I'm just doing frivolous stuff on the interior.

Well I better go get the garage cleaned up and get it off of jack stands so I can go take it for a test drive.

eric... did your package arrive?

Looks like i'm out. My cruiser was hit and had the entire propane system minus the tank stolen out of it and the alternator :(

Damn dude, that sux......

Same bastids that hit me probably.
Time to get the cameras rolling again....

LT , think it was the fawkers from the last shop ?
That blows, I thought the new shop was secure ?

Don't think so...

This was too pre-meditated. The cleanly took my whole system with tools and everything. Un bolted everything, un hooked the hose clamps from the vaporizer, even took my high pressure hose from the propane tank to the fuel lock off valve. On top of that I had air fuel gauge hooked up my exhaust to help with tuning. They took that as well.

This really pisses me off. Obviously someone knew my cruiser and what I had under the hood. Most people think my propane tank is a giant air tank in the back.

Mark and I leave our rigs in the grass because we don't have a giant shop to house a bunch of rigs. We haven't put our security cameras back up from the old shop. With this and a couple of others hits that have happened here it is time they come back on.

Looks like i'm out. My cruiser was hit and had the entire propane system minus the tank stolen out of it and the alternator :(

LT- That sucks. Come anyway you'll have a great time. I'll buy you a drink at the Maurader Bar...So will everyone else..

I have an open seat in my 40 as of today. You're welcome to it. Wednsday pm.

LT- That sucks. Come anyway you'll have a great time. I'll buy you a drink at the Maurader Bar...So will everyone else..

I'm gonna pass on Rubithon. First I tried to get my 40 ready for the Lone State Round Up and couldn't do it. Then I tried for Moab and almost had it ready, but ran out of time. I was nearing the end of my project for Rubithon till this happened. Don't really want to go wheeling unless i'm in my rig, kind of loses all the fun riding passenger thinking I could be doing all of the obstacles in my own rig.

I'm gonna pass on Rubithon. First I tried to get my 40 ready for the Lone State Round Up and couldn't do it. Then I tried for Moab and almost had it ready, but ran out of time. I was nearing the end of my project for Rubithon till this happened. Don't really want to go wheeling unless i'm in my rig, kind of loses all the fun riding passenger thinking I could be doing all of the obstacles in my own rig.

NO problem, you could always come by our place and drive our 40. Better than passenger or passing. Mark can give you directions.

Time to get a nice police dog in your rig to rip the arms of the thieves. They only listen to one person and they will not stop until they hear YOUR voice w/command(the next morning). Just get a license plate frame that says beware of dog, that way they were warned. I hate thieves.

Don't really want to go wheeling unless i'm in my rig, kind of loses all the fun riding passenger thinking I could be doing all of the obstacles in my own rig.

Really sorry to read about what happened...have faith, karma always comes around and makes things right.

This will only be my 4th Rubithon, my 2nd driving my own rig.

Sure, your grin is bigger when you drive, but honestly...being there still ROCKS :smokin:

see you on the trail,
manny

LT< that really bums me out. not your year i guess. keep your head up bro!

Looks like i'm out. My cruiser was hit and had the entire propane system minus the tank stolen out of it and the alternator :(

That really sucks LT.... There are some sorry a$$ objects (can't call them people) out there.

LT sorry to hear about that man, I hate thievin punks like that... :mad3: Totally sucks it happend right before the trip. I hope you can still make it.

Final run lists have been sent out to trail leaders. Trail leader 'stuff' is either arriving or will be arriving shortly. Will follow up with radio channels.

Breakfast counts to Ice House and list. Bring those yellow tickets that were in your confirmation. Did not get your confirmation?? don't fret, just show up, they have a list with last names.

Raffle stuff (and there is a lot of it) dropped off for escort into the springs.

Picking up shirts this Friday for bag and tag.

and finally, if you have not registered, register in the Springs. You must register to receive your camping permit. folks without a permit will be asked to leave. Please don't put us in this unfortunate scenario. Simply register.

That is all... packing thoroughly, but do not overpack. Prepare for sun, but don't forget tarps and raingear. Bring a Marauder Bar donation. Bring a raffle prize.

Get ready to have an excellent time on the Rubicon with your TLCA friends!

hello guys ! THE KNORR BOYS < will be at tahoe side WED , wheeling to loon , staying @ loon lake camp wed night ? wheeling back in thursday with the 10;00 group ! looking forward to see you all there !! WOOPEE !!

hello guys ! THE KNORR BOYS < will be at tahoe side WED , wheeling to loon , staying @ loon lake camp wed night ?

Save me a spot@loon, Greg and I will be arriving late Wednesday.
Don't worry, I'm in charge of the tequila this year...only 100% agave for my Uncle :D

Mike and Dale- you guys dragging the trailer through?

Manny- you better bring enough to share! I think I am going to bring some nice single malt.

See you guys Thurs. We'll prob run into you around Walker hill.

cheers!
Dustin

Save me a spot@loon
Me too !!! I should hit Loon around dark on weds... :bounce2:

We are going to drop off the trailer at the springs, (same place) as last year. Every body is welcome we will mark a spot off and leave a tarp there, can you say BEACH PARTY :beer: Mr Manny somthing tells me i see Margarita"s::smokin: Looking forward to seeing eveyone, ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM ::)

Got all the registration goodies today. No final list yet, but I expect it before monday. Looks like I wwasn't too far off about the campfires. No campfires this year. Propane stove will be in the camping gear.
I am madly trying to get my 40 ready. One thing after another seems to go wrong. Got the TC installed and working fine. Yesterday, I was driving it around down and the temp went over 210 :eek: It has never got that high before. Pulled the thermostat housing out today. The thermostat was cocked sidwarys in the inlet passage. Now, how in the world did it do that? I have one on order that will be here thursday.
Putting new Ubolts and spring plates from Ruff Stuff on also. All are installed execpt the passager side front. Having problems with that side. The ubolts don't want to line parallel with each other. They are going in crooked to each other? Will try again tomorrow.
A few other minor things being installed, upgraded from last year. I have all next week off, so I have lots of time to get ready. :D:p

Bill is correct -- starting June 18th, fire restrictions in effect:

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/conditions/fire-restrictions/index.shtml

Also -- Note that Rubicon springs is not covered by this. But camping at Loon or Buck is. Fire permit only allows gas/propane/sterno cooking. No Charcoal. Fires only allowed in pits. (know of any "official" pits on the trail? me either).

Also -- Note that Rubicon springs is not covered by this.
Are you saying camp fires will be allowed at Rubicon Springs?

:confused:

Delete that and shhhhhhhhhhh!
Shit happens.

Are you saying camp fires will be allowed at Rubicon Springs?

:confused:

Private property is up to the land owners. I would presume that the caretaker will have more info once we are there.

I suspect that the Saturday bonfire still occurs. As for the springs/bluffs camp fires? Good question.

Me thinks the big fire pit is gonna be crowded.
We can just snuggle up to Ross for warmth.

What if it is rains ?

Guess we'll see !!!!!!!!

I would offer that the same fire restrictions will be in place for Rubicon Springs. Attendees should plan accordingly.

Plan for the worst... hope for the best.

What if it is rains ?

2yrs ago it rained...didn't stop all the coyote-ugly counter dancing @the marauder bar :beer:
you know who you are :D

Plan for the worst... hope for the best.

That's where I'm at.

I was just contemplating leaving the chainsaw and its fuel at home.

Next up, whether or not to bring the spare rear axles now that I have the new PIG ones installed. The fronts and birfs aren't so bad and the spare driveshaft is definitely going for the ride. Hmmmm....

That's where I'm at.

I was just contemplating leaving the chainsaw and its fuel at home.

Next up, whether or not to bring the spare rear axles now that I have the new PIG ones installed. The fronts and birfs aren't so bad and the spare driveshaft is definitely going for the ride. Hmmmm....

Murphy's Law Jim. Bring 'em and you will have a clean run. Leave them at home and ...SNAP!

Murphy's Law Jim. Bring 'em and you will have a clean run. Leave them at home and ...SNAP!

For some reason, Craig, a line from a ficticious Kurt Vonnegut speech comes to mind "always wear sunscreen!"

As for spare parts, the less the better; loading a rig down with the kitchen sink, so to speak, will probably guarantee breakage... But, hey, what the heck do I know :D

Andy

For some reason, Craig, a line from a ficticious Kurt Vonnegut speech comes to mind "always wear sunscreen!"


I'm sure I'm gonna hear that line from crazy lotion girl before I walk out the door next week. :shaking:

Oh ...PismoJim, I'm leaving my spare diff at home to save weight this year. But I'm bringing my axles.

I'll tell you one thing, the PIG chromoly axles are super LIGHT compared to the stock semi floaters. Especially, the long side FJ60 specific axle.

I was going to bring the short side so I could loan it to 40/60 person if needed.

BTW, I don't bring the spares for myself, its just a ploy to get people to hang out with me.

:flipoff2:

[Edit] I just realized I could loan it to Krusty if he could find a stock FJ60 to drive through.... of course the rear axle would likely be the last thing to break.

hello guys ! THE KNORR BOYS < will be at tahoe side WED , wheeling to loon , staying @ loon lake camp wed night ? wheeling back in thursday with the 10;00 group ! looking forward to see you all there !! WOOPEE !!

Hey Mike
Will be giving you and Glenn a ring next week. Was planning to make it up to Plavcerville Wednesday evening. If you are camping at Look... I may just join you.

For anyone driving up Wednesday... I am leaving my house in S.San Jose... no real time in mind yet. If you want to caravan, let me know! Would welcome the company on the road! CB wil be set at the date if I see you on the road.

Hydro assist and rear rack almost done :D Can't wait!!!

[Edit] I just realized I could loan it to Krusty if he could find a stock FJ60 to drive through.... of course the rear axle would likely be the last thing to break.

Actually, Jim, now that Gatekeeper is gone I might make it through with "less" damage :D :eek: These days I am much more content in my 40 (when its running). Have a good time at Rubithon - you won't need spare axles!

Andy

Loaded and ready to head south early Sunday morning. I decided to bring my little M416 trailer this year. It has more room for essentials :beer: than the smaller trailer I have borrowed from local jbcruiser in recent years. If I don't show, the CHP has probably arrested me and thrown away the key:laughing::laughing::laughing:

2yrs ago it rained...didn't stop all the coyote-ugly counter dancing @the marauder bar :beer:
you know who you are :D

Toys on the Rocks dancers! Those are our girls!:smokin:

They'll likely arrest you for not being color coordinated. :flipoff2:

Always looking forward to seeing you make those big rocks look small.

Jack, Not that I question your driving skill but how do you justify that rig? Class 1 license??:confused:

My reading of the Oregon and California regs indicates that you can pull two trailers as long as you do not exceed a certain length. You see this most commonly with a PU pulling a travel trailer and behind that a boat. If stopped, I plan to argue that the M416 is a boat, since the military designed it to float, and the original drain plugs are intact:flipoff2:

just watch out when you are backing up Jack!

Be safe and keep us updated!

john

If stopped, I plan to argue that the M416 is a boat, since the military designed it to float, and the original drain plugs are intact:flipoff2:

Any idea what the certain length is?
I'll buy that but, the only multi trailer rigs I've seen were trailers behind a fifth wheel AND driven by a soul with a class 1 (?) semi license. Good luck sir! Realistically I find that if you are a mature, contributing member of society (we both fit that category physically!) that you can get away with a bunch of stuff that my boys, for instance, can't.

That must be an interesting rig to back up!

'bout time for a repaint on the 416??

What are your plans, Jack? I'd assume Tahoe City on Monday, then..............................?

My reading of the Oregon and California regs indicates that you can pull two trailers as long as you do not exceed a certain length. You see this most commonly with a PU pulling a travel trailer and behind that a boat. If stopped, I plan to argue that the M416 is a boat, since the military designed it to float, and the original drain plugs are intact:flipoff2:

I thought the middle trailer had to be a 5th wheel to pull that configuration.

A Class C license is only good for one towed vehicle. A non commercial Class A can tow above 10K for trailers, and above 15K for 5th wheels. Non commercial B can tow under 10K trailer, 10 - 15K 5th wheel.

However -- if your arrangement is legal in Oregon, you're probably OK.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/cdl_htm/lic_chart.htm

Just a reminder make sure you bring BUG REPELENT the mosquitos are bad, waterproof is best, also bug guard for any dogs that may be coming. I was there last weekend on the trail repair and they were bad.

Ok, you guys talked me out of towing the 416. Thanks for the input.

You were not really gonna try that were you ?

Ok, you guys talked me out of towing the 416. Thanks for the input.

If you need more beer -- lemme know the brand. I'm going in solo, so there's plenty of room. I'll be camped down by Mudrak

gosh Ross, if taking orders...

Crown Royal
Jameson
Tres Generaciones
and that beautiful Bombay blue gin stuff... yummy with grapefruit juice.

I think that about covers the spectrum of alcohol I like. :smokin:

gosh Ross, if taking orders...

Crown Royal
Jameson
Tres Generaciones
and that beautiful Bombay blue gin stuff... yummy with grapefruit juice.

I think that about covers the spectrum of alcohol I like. :smokin:

You'll notice that I quoted JACK, in reply to his not taking the M416. Sheesh...

I can throw in some Patron. And Cazadores for Pismo Jim... Crown Royal is vile stuff. How about Knob Creek or Maker's Mark?

Dayyum Jack the Roc Doc, we did not know you were a poster boy??!!

http://www.cascadecruisers.com/

a most excellent photo I must say. Too bad we already have our graphics, I'd splash that shot on a shirt.

Oops, off topic, lets see...

Don't forget about committee awards ceremony Friday night! Probably around 7:30 -ish. Open to everyone, not just committee.

The Property owners at Rubicon Springs mirror the FS in regards to fire. So, NO FIRES in the Springs. I am sure there will be one fire at main camp as well as the kitchen cookfires.

Scott

i was wondering the same thing....... also i noticed it said temporarily closed ......does this meen this stupidity is possibly temp?

if ya ask me, this stupidity is only temporary until they figure out how to make it legal and binding:mad3:


was that my out loud voice??:flipoff2:

Dayyum Jack the Roc Doc, we did not know you were a poster boy??!!

http://www.cascadecruisers.com/

a most excellent photo I must say. Too bad we already have our graphics, I'd splash that shot on a shirt.

Oops, off topic, lets see...

Don't forget about committee awards ceremony Friday night! Probably around 7:30 -ish. Open to everyone, not just committee.
There's about 10 shots that rotate. I presume you mean this one?

http://www.cascadecruisers.com/images/rotate/3.gif

Thanks for the generous offer, Ross. I am going to bring jbcruiser's little trailer so you can fill your space up with Tony's request.:smokin:

Tony,

Sam has the Jameson's she promised.

Fix whatever you didnt fix on your junk today. Two more days :massey:

Fix whatever you didnt fix on your junk today. Two more days :massey:
And don't forget these... :p
310321

see you all up there:beer:

That's the plan. I still could move my inbound flight to Tuesday instead of Wednesday if that fits better. I don't know Mace, hell, for that matter I don't know you either. If you guys turn out to be assholes, I'll just walk back towards Reno and hitch a ride towards the airport.:flipoff2:

Quoted for posterity, irony, and sheer funnay

This is gettin outa hand,

you can not just show up with a hammock and pretend all is well:D

I had alot of extra food and water though.