: Starting my Rear ToyConversion
nunoeumiranda 12-02-2006, 03:20 AM Hi to all
I'm thinking to start my Rear toy conversion in a rover axles that i have in my garage for a long time ago.
Well i need to know the ref of the Toy housing because in Portugal its hard to find a V6 housing :(
I have one from the Toyota Land cruiser Kzj70 3.0T in portugal we call Toyota Vx3 that's one fits?
Another question is about the Ring and Pinion
for a set of 37" what R&P?? from where?? yukon? or other?
I'm running maxxis 35" in a KAM 4.75 R&P anda have a ZF autbox...
Who help's?
Cheers from Portugal
nunoeumiranda 12-02-2006, 04:42 AM well i found that uses the ARB Air Locker RD23 8" right?
It's that?
DiscoDino 12-02-2006, 08:23 AM Hey Miranda...
For the rear you will need:
1. ARB part # RD23 (30 spline, Toyota 8")
2. Toyota LOW PINION, 8" V6 housing. These can be taken off the 4Runner SR5V6, and some Hi-luxes, main thing is that these housings have 6 webbings instead of the 4 cyl 4 webbing...also, main difference is that the V6 housing uses 50mm outside bearing diameter vs 45mm on the 4cyl one. You can also find them in the BJ73 or even FJ70.
3. 2 x 30 spline axles (Rover Tracks in US or Jac Mac in Aust)
4. You need to vore out the spindles in the rear (IIRC, they went from 32mm to 35mm, but I could be wrong)
5. You need the 30 spline Rover pattern flanges (same sources as above).
With the new 10 bolts drilled and everthing therein, you should have it done in a day for the first time, then 1/2 a day for the second and thereafer...
I am sure others will chime in with more detail that I may have missed
Nadim
DiscoDino 12-02-2006, 08:26 AM For gearing, I's suggest 4.88, the 2.74% difference between front and rear until you get the front on Toy set-up should be negligeable with Open diffs on the road...
For gearing, I's suggest 4.88, the 2.74% difference between front and rear until you get the front on Toy set-up should be negligeable with Open diffs on the road...
I agree with this as well. I'm running the 4.88's with 37's. Nice and low. If you plan to do more highway driving at speeds above 65 or so then go with 4.54's.
As a point of reference, when I was running 4.11's (Rover) with 35's my speedo was dead on. Basically it was like running stock tires and gears when it came to crawl ratio and highway driving.
nunoeumiranda 12-04-2006, 03:34 AM Thanks to All
Nadim the problem here its the V6 its a rare thing in Portugal... I have lot's of Hilux in Portugal and all uses the same ARB locker the RD23..
They are diesel motors so i think it uses the 4 cylinder diff. but the ARB it's the same.. the R&P will be less stronger? or what's the real problem?
Sorry about the English :)
Larry i like to do the things easy :P so the 4,88 looks nice :) my V8 aren't street legal :( so thats no problem with highway speeds..
AKRover 12-04-2006, 11:18 AM This page has some good pictures for identifying Toyota differentials although all his references are to US models.
http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/diffs/
nunoeumiranda 12-05-2006, 03:13 AM This page has some good pictures for identifying Toyota differentials although all his references are to US models.
http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/diffs/
Thanks :)
FerRi 12-06-2006, 04:35 AM Pardon my ignorance, but can you put reverse cut gears in to a V6 housing, and turn it upside down?? I believe it would be easier doing this way than finding a High Pinion housing in Europe!!
revor 12-06-2006, 09:26 AM Nope... The front would drive one way and the rear would drive the other..
Think about it... It helps to drink and think about it..
nunoeumiranda 12-06-2006, 10:25 AM Nope... The front would drive one way and the rear would drive the other..
Think about it... It helps to drink and think about it..
Well so the only way is to use a Hypoid at the front... to use the housing of the v6 at the front i need to change the Panhard Rod and the Tie Rod another fu٧€ :(
Nope... The front would drive one way and the rear would drive the other..
Think about it... It helps to drink and think about it..
If somebody does decide to do this, please get us some video. And make sure you've got a big block pushing some power!
Then I'll drink and think about what just happened in the video!
aloharover 12-06-2006, 12:14 PM If somebody does decide to do this, please get us some video. And make sure you've got a big block pushing some power!
Then I'll drink and think about what just happened in the video!
:idea:
I have a stock front and rear housing sitting here. Also have a video camera.
Only putting out 275 ftlbs but still might be interesting.
When I am done with the new frame I could stick the rover axles under it temporarily and test this out.
Just need someone to donate the center sections.
FerRi 12-06-2006, 03:20 PM Nope... The front would drive one way and the rear would drive the other..
Think about it... It helps to drink and think about it..
Yap, that´s quite logical...only needed 3 beers go get it thow...I´m happy that I mentioned my ignorance before asking that question!!
Nevertheless, would love to see empirical data on that video:flipoff2:
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