: Power Steering Pump
tdculp 12-04-2006, 04:27 PM I found a PSP for my 95 SWB 3.9 at advance for $170.00 with a limited lifetime warr. Anyone had any experience with their PSP's?
I am sorry to ask this again, as (I did on Discoweb) but are there any PSP's that fit other vehicles that will also fit a 1995 SWB 3.9 WITHOUT ANY MODIFICATIONS?
I know there are some for the chevy astro, but it is my understanding they require a mod to fit. Pulley swap would be OK if it is just unbolt-bolt on.
tim.
Keith Armstrong 12-04-2006, 05:20 PM If its the same as the Sunbird pump - and I think it is - the only mod is to replace the return line (the large diameter, low pressure hose) with one that's slightly longer .... you were going to replace hses and clamps anyway right?
darkstar 12-04-2006, 06:46 PM That's pretty much right. You do have to replace the pulley, and that triangle adapter on the rover pump is a bitch to remove. Use a big puller and go slow.
revor 12-04-2006, 07:35 PM Use a big puller and go slow.
And heat...
Keith Armstrong 12-04-2006, 07:39 PM Oops, forgot about the pulley and the mount.
Mine came off nicely ... do not hammer the mount / pulley onto the new pump. You must use the threaded installer, i.e. hardened bolt to install the mount / pulley onto the new pump shaft.
aaron t 12-04-2006, 08:24 PM toyota fj80s have the same pulley
Dougal 12-04-2006, 09:39 PM While we're on the power steering subject.
Does anyone have a good replacement for the rover PS reservoir with the factory leaks?
I'm considering any random bottle and using an inline oil filter mount on the pump supply line. Just worried about placing too big a restriction and starving the pump.
PTSchram 12-05-2006, 05:50 AM While we're on the power steering subject.
Does anyone have a good replacement for the rover PS reservoir with the factory leaks?
I'm considering any random bottle and using an inline oil filter mount on the pump supply line. Just worried about placing too big a restriction and starving the pump.
Most of the hot rod shops have a suitable container in aluminium.
Odd you should bing this up as it was on my list after repalcing a PAS line yesterday, only to find it was a tranny coole line that had failed.
evilfij 12-05-2006, 08:22 AM "Does anyone have a good replacement for the rover PS reservoir with the factory leaks?"
Get one off an early 110. Looks like about 2 quarts in size.
Keith Armstrong 12-05-2006, 08:37 AM Interestingly enough, toward the bottom of the page at http://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/parts.php?veh=rrc_70_85&sec=serv
There's a listing for p/s filters on early Rangies .... more homework required ...
KAA
evilfij 12-05-2006, 08:40 AM All it is a mesh screen that goes below the cap.
"Power Steering Filter Element
LATER reservoir type with LARGE metal screw cap"
This is what I have on the 110.
Keith Armstrong 12-05-2006, 11:52 AM That's what I thought too but they show a folded paper element with metal end caps???
I'll search more later.
Oh, and not too long ago, someone found a circle track vendor with a p/s reservoir that had an integrated screw on oil filter on the base ...
Later,
KAA
Dougal 12-05-2006, 10:12 PM Most of the hot rod shops have a suitable container in aluminium.
Odd you should bing this up as it was on my list after repalcing a PAS line yesterday, only to find it was a tranny coole line that had failed.
A quick visit to a hot-rod site shows a PS bottle for $NZ400.:mad3:
Plenty of plain bottles for the ricer crowd in stainless and alumin(i)um. What is the school of thought on an inline cartridge filter on the intake?
PTSchram 12-06-2006, 06:56 AM What is the school of thought on an inline cartridge filter on the intake?
If you need a filter, you have bigger problems that need to be addressed.
Cooler, yes. Bigger reservoir made from something more robust than plastic, yes. Filter, no.
PT
Keith Armstrong 12-06-2006, 08:46 AM I can see that a filter might extend the life of a p/s pump by eliminating wear bits from the pump and the box, but these pumps don't seem to be particularly "robust" anyways ... couldn't hurt, but if you don't service it regularly .... naaaah, I'll replace a $70 pump every 12 years and call it good.
Pushngo 12-06-2006, 12:19 PM I have the Chevy pump on my D1 works sweet with 34's and is a direct bolt on the return line is straight instead of a 90 but I shortened the hose 1/2" to clear the water pump and it was done
And at NAPA it is < $100 plus you can get the $25 core charge back Hope they don't get pissy that it is a Rover pump
My question Is it the same pump on a D2?
PTSchram 12-06-2006, 02:45 PM My question Is it the same pump on a D2?
The DII pump is different, but it might fit all the same.
tdculp 12-08-2006, 09:15 AM I picked a PSP up from Autozone last night, and of course it does not fit correctly. The pump will not sit down into the housing correctly to allow me to attach the two bolts. There is a "bolt boss" (for lack of a better description) that sticks out from the middle of the pump base (inbetween where the two bolts attach the pump to the housing) and hits one of the "webs" inside the "housing". I guess I can grind some of the metal form the housing. Has anyone run across this?
PTSchram 12-08-2006, 09:59 AM I picked a PSP up from Autozone last night, and of course it does not fit correctly. The pump will not sit down into the housing correctly to allow me to attach the two bolts. There is a "bolt boss" (for lack of a better description) that sticks out from the middle of the pump base (inbetween where the two bolts attach the pump to the housing) and hits one of the "webs" inside the "housing". I guess I can grind some of the metal form the housing. Has anyone run across this?
AFIRover has perfected this swap, as has Pendy. Might speak with either of them for more insight.
PT
tdculp 12-08-2006, 11:43 AM Thanks Paul, I'll send them PM's and ask if they will respond to this thread.
tim.
pendy 12-08-2006, 01:46 PM Let Keith Armstrong weigh in his thoughts on this. He has done it most recently.
Keith-----
JP
Keith Armstrong 12-09-2006, 03:49 PM Sorry guys, absent from the computer for a couple of days.
The Sunbird pump that I got from NAPA was dimensionally identical to the Rover pump.
The only difference was the low pressure line attachment to the pump body.
My installation was on an early '94 Discovery.
If you need the NAPA part number I'll go look in my receipts.
KAA
Dougal 12-09-2006, 04:37 PM I can see that a filter might extend the life of a p/s pump by eliminating wear bits from the pump and the box, but these pumps don't seem to be particularly "robust" anyways ... couldn't hurt, but if you don't service it regularly .... naaaah, I'll replace a $70 pump every 12 years and call it good.
I'm running an isuzu diesel, my PS pump bolts into the timing cover and is gear driven.
I think I could pick up a 1970's RRC for less than the cost of replacing that puppy.
I found a ricer style aluminium PS housing for a good price with both a screw on lid and a bolt on top.
I might be able to set up some type of internal filter. The fittings are also screw in so I can fit my 3/4" hoses.
PTSchram 12-10-2006, 01:44 AM If you need the NAPA part number I'll go look in my receipts.
KAA
Or buy a fawking star and search!
where do you think I found this idea? (credit to some extent where credit due)
mightymg1 12-10-2006, 10:27 AM I have the napa part number, Its a direct swap, and its a GM pump, you will be very happy, everyone that has done it has been...NAPA 20874 is the correct number...
tdculp 12-10-2006, 08:45 PM Thx, I just made the autozone part fit with the use of a grinder since I already had the part. I'll keep the Napa number for future use...
afirover 12-12-2006, 07:50 AM we have done a few (to many) of these swops and they only issues we have is the return line of the rover part comes out at a 90 deg and the "astro " pump pionts at the distrib (if you have one )
you will need some 5/8 hydro hose handy ( about 2.5-3 feet ) and new claps and a pully puller and a case of beer and about 3 hours ( for the first timers )
my shopbouy can do them in less than 1.5 now
good luck
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