And sweet titties it cuts steel like butter:D I will never use a chop saw again.

Video http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product3_27_40027_-1_278586_281131_189330_362#

http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/met/html/images/largeprod/6190-20-lg.jpg

couldnt find a price on the link.How much did it run.

couldnt find a price on the link.How much did it run.


I got it up in canada for 540$ to my door but you guys can get them for as low as 380$ (ebay) but most places sell them for 400-430$ usd

http://cgi.ebay.com/MILWAUKEE-14-IN-DRY-CUT-MACHINE-CIRCULAR-TABLE-SAW-6190_W0QQitemZ220058867086QQihZ012QQcategoryZ20789 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Put the $ towards a bandsaw IMHO.

I have a Dewalt drycut and like it, but the blade that came with it sucked. I switched to Freud's and so far have been having good luck. Time will tell. I use my bandsaw more though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MILWAUKEE-14-IN-DRY-CUT-MACHINE-CIRCULAR-TABLE-SAW-6190_W0QQitemZ220058867086QQihZ012QQcategoryZ20789 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

i'll take your sale and raise it 1 :flipoff2:

http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Reconditioned-Milwaukee-6190-80-14-Inch-Abrasive/dp/B000F0CGNE/sr=8-2/qid=1165911116/ref=sr_1_2/103-1713960-6286257?ie=UTF8&s=hi

$50 off + Free Shipping :D

Amazon also has new ones for $30 more than the reconditioned one you posted Todd.

http://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-6190-20-14-Inch-Cutoff-Machine/dp/B00023S336/sr=8-1/qid=1165932031/ref=sr_1_1/002-6325913-8112063?ie=UTF8&s=hi

Same $50 discount can be applied and free shipping bringing my total to $385.95 shipped to my door :D

:p Got mine last month for $358 delivered to the house. It does cut like butter and I don't think I'll be using a chop saw much anymore either...:cool2:

Tod w didn't read the link . It's for an abrasive chop saw!!!

Tod w didn't read the link . It's for an abrasive chop saw!!!

same unit # on 1st is 6190-20, this one is -80, both same type dry cut cold saws:flipoff2: you didn't read enough:p

'The 6190-80 utilizes dry (a.k.a. cold) cut technology which will cut on average three times faster than an abrasive machine and costs 1-1/2 times less to operate

I'm considering buying one. What is the difference bewteen model 6190-20 and the 80 model? I can't find any information of the 80 on the Milwaukee site.

Can somebody comment on the noise level from one of these?

The one I used was really loud. I wasn't too impressed with how long the blades lasted and how expensive they are. For the cost, I'll stick with my chop saw. The upgraded cost and cost of blades just isn't worth it if you ask me. I used one at work all the time and wasn't impressed to say the least.

I hear the blades last a long time, i think its how you use them.. they say to push down till the sparks stop.


I got two of them one for work and one for home.. the one at work has a plastic clamp and mine has a cast one..... the one at work was flexing a bit on the 45* cuts today.

I'm going to call up miwaukee to see what the deal is and if they wil send me a cast setup.

Can somebody comment on the noise level from one of these?


Id say the same as a chop saw with just the motor running but less when its cutting. Sounds the same as a wood cutting saw.

Okay, you got me. I was fairly hard on the blades. :D I cut a LOT of unistrut with the blades though, and they are still quite pricey to replace.

They may not be louder, but the pitch on the steel on steel contact is deafening. Very high pitched.

I think it's loud. Shrill might be a better term. But I don't care, it's not like I'd run an abrasive chop saw w/out ear protection either, so there's no added inconvenience for me. With ear protection it seems relatively quiet

It changed since I read it!

they say to push down till the sparks stop.

Funny...everything I read (Did a fair amount of research) said to not push on the handle but just rest your hand on it. Unlike an abrasive saw, too much pressure is what kills the blade.

Whatever you do, do not let the blade come crashing down onto the metal.

Nice saw!!! Way better base, clamps, and miter set up than the Dewalt I own.

Makes me want to sell my Dewalt and get one!!!

Funny...everything I read (Did a fair amount of research) said to not push on the handle but just rest your hand on it. Unlike an abrasive saw, too much pressure is what kills the blade.

Too much pressure is what causes abrasive blades to glaze over. On abrasives you are supposed to just rest your hand on it, or hang a length of pipe on the handle just enough to let it feed down lightly.

That said I'm really not sure of proper protocol on the dry cut blades. I've always just applied light but consistent pressure. Maybe that's why my blades dont' seem to last very long, especially the Freuds.

cripedistributing On ebay is one of the places I have bought the blades from. There prices are up/down. If you watch there auctions the blades can be had for 40-45 shipped. I have had good luck with them. I would compare the metal saw/ abrasive saw as the same relationship as sawzall/hacksaw. I like mine alot, but I still use my abrasive saw from time to time.

I just received mine today and have to say I am extremely impressed with the quality of the saw and the thoughtfulness that went into the design.

Although I have always been happy with my Milwaukee tools and expect superior products from them the quality and design of this is far superior to the Milwaukee abrasive saw that I have.

A few observations.

1. It does not spin nearly as fast as the abrasive saws and there is much less noise than I am used to with my Milwaukee abrasive saw.

2. Cutting is not nearly as loud as an abrasive saw

3. I would estimate that it took a ¼ of the time to cut through 1.5” 3/16 tube when compared to my Milwaukee abrasive saw

4. The metal and blade were both cool to the touch immediately after cutting

5. The cut is clean and looks almost like it was cut with a band saw where abrasive saws kind of melt the metal a leave a rough edge

6. It does not stink or create the nasty dust that abrasive saws do, it does make little chips but most of them go into the chip tray

7. The base is nice and level/ flat all the way across unlike my Milwaukee abrasive saw that is only level/ flat in the center making it easier to ensure your material is flat.

8. The center adjustment does not require a tool to adjust where my old abrasive saw required that you unbolt the backstop.


Combined with my plasma and assuming that the blade life is decent I will probably no longer have a use for my Milwaukee abrasive saw

:D

I just received mine today and have to say I am extremely impressed with the quality of the saw and the thoughtfulness that went into the design.

Although I have always been happy with my Milwaukee tools and expect superior products from them the quality and design of this is far superior to the Milwaukee abrasive saw that I have.

A few observations.

1. It does not spin nearly as fast as the abrasive saws and there is much less noise than I am used to with my Milwaukee abrasive saw.

2. Cutting is not nearly as loud as an abrasive saw

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4. The metal and blade were both cool to the touch immediately after cutting

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6. It does not stink or create the nasty dust that abrasive saws do, it does make little chips but most of them go into the chip tray

7. The base is nice and level/ flat all the way across unlike my Milwaukee abrasive saw that is only level/ flat in the center making it easier to ensure your material is flat.

8. The center adjustment does not require a tool to adjust where my old abrasive saw required that you unbolt the backstop.


Combined with my plasma and assuming that the blade life is decent I will probably no longer have a use for my Milwaukee abrasive saw

I'm surprised you feel it's quieter. As the blade dulls the cuts will become hotter. I guess a lot of the chips go on the chip tray, but it seems to be a good amount still end up on the bench or the floor. One of the best things I bought to clean up around this saw is one of the magnetic "magic wands." Picks up chips, pull the lever over a trash can and magnet retracts and the chips drop away.

As for the design of the saw, note that the old Milwaukee 6176 has been retired. They have now incorporated all the upgrades into the current abrasive saw too (except for the blade guard which is not really necessary w an abrasive blade):
http://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-D-Handle-Chop-Saw-6180-20/dp/B0002VEZCG

And finally I wouldn't discard your old abrasive. Anything you put into the dry cut must be SECURELY clamped. If the object is too large or odd shaped to clamp securely, do not even dream of trying to partially hold it down w your hands. In an abrasive saw you can pretty much do this, but the coarse teeth of the dry cut WILL rip the work right out of your hands and throw it back. I've had plenty of scares w my dry cut, even angle can be hard to clamp securely enough.

2. Cutting is not nearly as loud as an abrasive saw

Yep I thought so as well

5. The cut is clean and looks almost like it was cut with a band saw where abrasive saws kind of melt the metal a leave a rough edge

I think it looks like a milled finish better than a band saw

6. It does not stink or create the nasty dust that abrasive saws do, it does make little chips but most of them go into the chip tray

Most of mine end up on the floor :D


8. The center adjustment does not require a tool to adjust where my old abrasive saw required that you unbolt the backstop.

I find it will flex when you have it set to 45*... I gotta look at it to see if I can tighten it up

Im happy with it so far, as for the cutting I think you have to load it up a bit and let the carbides do the work.. this will put the heat in to the chips and not the blade... but what do I know.

Okay, you got me. I was fairly hard on the blades. :D I cut a LOT of unistrut with the blades though, and they are still quite pricey to replace.

They may not be louder, but the pitch on the steel on steel contact is deafening. Very high pitched.
There not pricey if shop right:

http://cgi.ebay.com/FREUD-DIABLO-14-STEEL-DEMON-FERROUS-METAL-BLADE_W0QQitemZ170059563002QQihZ007QQcategoryZ7970 6QQcmdZViewItem

I wouldn't discard your old abrasive. Anything you put into the dry cut must be SECURELY clamped. If the object is too large or odd shaped to clamp securely, do not even dream of trying to partially hold it down w your hands. In an abrasive saw you can pretty much do this, but the coarse teeth of the dry cut WILL rip the work right out of your hands and throw it back. I've had plenty of scares w my dry cut, even angle can be hard to clamp securely enough.

Between the plasma, the new saw and the band saw I am guessing that I should be able to do without the abrasive saw but I will hold onto it for a while and and decide later.

Thanks for the info :)

I bought a Dewalt for the guys to use here at work. So far we have just kinda played with it but we are very happy so far.