: My new Camper (UNIMOG)


coachgeo
05-10-2002, 09:45 AM
Well it is sorta mine. The dealer in Belgum has it on hold for me. Dealing with Bank's red tape right now.

George

Sharp
05-10-2002, 09:52 AM
sweet, are you planning on getting it shipped to you? or are you moving there?

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Sharp
sweet, are you planning on getting it shipped to you? or are you moving there?

Shipped.. cost about 2 grand... including import fees and all duties thru an importer I am paying for his services.

Rover Addiction
05-10-2002, 09:58 AM
Got any specs at this time?

Awesome expedition rig!!!

-John

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 09:59 AM
Unimog 404 Turbo-Diesel Camper


Hard top ex-fire truck cab and chassis.
Radio box on back converted to basic camper.
Built in 1964.
55'000 km / 35'000 miles.
Gas motor replaced with Mercedes OM617A turbo-diesel engine.
Displacement 5-cylinder, 3.0 liter (183 ci).
Power output 92 kw (125 hp) at 4'350 rpm.
Torque output 250 Nm (184 ft-lbs) at 2'400 rpm.
Special shift-plate 8 forward, 4 reverse gears.
Rebuilt all syncro transmission.
Differential locks front and back.
Portal axles with 17" ground clearance.
Coil spring suspension.
Up to 20° torsional twisting.
4 Wheel drum brakes with air assist.
12V Electrical system.
Air compressor.
NATO type rear pintle hitch.
5 - 12.5x20 radial tires, 70% new.
45 gal diesel fuel tank, space for another 45 gal tank.
20 liter / 5 gal Gerry can.
Raised snorkel air intake.
Stainless steel raised exhaust.
Reinforced suspension using heavy duty springs and double shocks.
Passage between cab and box.
Cargo roof rack. Yellow fog lamps.
2.9m / 114" wheelbase.
1.63m / 64" track width.
Overall 5.2m L, 2.1m W, 2.3m H (205"L, 83"W, 91"H).
Curb weight 3,700 kg (8,200 lbs).

Notes - Wiring Nightmare...... needs rewiring... the dieselization was done using a profesional designed kit.

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 10:18 AM
inside cab.. little ruff

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 10:22 AM
no real camper conversion going on here.... unless u call pillows and some cabinets a camper conversion. The black boxes look to be original military radio boxes that came in the box. ohhhh.. for u non moggers. the back of this thing that is being converted is called a radio box. It once held a portable communications system.

Rover Addiction
05-10-2002, 10:23 AM
damn, that's a "little ruff???"

I'll take it!! :flipoff2:

-John

Rover Addiction
05-10-2002, 10:25 AM
Hey, is that a pass-through to the cab? Is that sealed? If so, how did they do that since the cab and box need to move independently for a mog to flex properly?

-John

miniyota
05-10-2002, 11:21 AM
holy gages batman!

i bet there is a rubber seal between the cab and the box, right!:eek: :D

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by ross hildebrandt
holy gages batman!

i bet there is a rubber seal between the cab and the box, right!:eek: :D

Correct... cept..... thats another little detail that has to be fixed. In part why im getting a good price Im sure..... Which is perfect. Little shiatt I can do... do an engine swap/mod/etc etc. I cant do.

IronBenderII
05-10-2002, 11:58 AM
That thing is phat! How much was it Coach????

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by IronBenderII
That thing is phat! How much was it Coach????

Some where between 11 and 12 grand by the time it is landed and titled etc.

IronBenderII
05-10-2002, 03:15 PM
That's not bad at all. Very nice!!!!!

Welby
05-10-2002, 03:50 PM
Wow, Coach, that's cool...You gotta let me know when you get it so I can drive out there and check it out :D..

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 04:42 PM
Im looking for a tow rig to tow it back on a trailer orrrr someone to drive me out and follow me back. Will pick up in North eastern NY most likely...

If you help.. u get to be one of the first to drive it.. :D :D then u'll really be PHATTTT too :smokin:

ehsankiani
05-10-2002, 05:22 PM
Cool looking mog.. Nice deal Coach

Realsquash
05-10-2002, 05:37 PM
Oh man I want a MOG!

Squash

flimmy
05-10-2002, 05:48 PM
Let's take it to the falls. :D Welby, you in.

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by flimmy
Let's take it to the falls. :D Welby, you in.

Well hopfully I will eventually have it set up to where I get where Im going.. (for overnighters) and drop the box off on stands then go wheeling in the Mog.. It wont tow the jeep..

flimmy
05-10-2002, 06:24 PM
How do you get the spare tire up on the roof :eek: dam thats high !http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=550394

Use it to tow the Jeep.

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 06:29 PM
U say tow the jeep..

boyyyy have I been trying to figure that out... butttt... these things are more TRACTOR than they are anything else.. it will tow a mountain... but only at 1 mph.... it wont tow a jeep at comfortable HWY speeds... and this one has the cats meow engine trainsplant and one of the better transmision up grades... It wont tow the jeep.. unless I drive 15mph on the back roads.. and nooooooooooo.. Im not going to do that.

Welby
05-10-2002, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by flimmy
Let's take it to the falls. :D Welby, you in.

Ha haaaa, that would be awesome :D


Coach, check us out, we're borrowing a rig you don't even have yet :laughing:

Oh, and 15 mph on the roads?? Fawk 'em, they can pass :D

Peabody
05-10-2002, 06:57 PM
Very cool and a fair price. What engine are you thinking about swapping in? Seems like the perfect candidate for a 5.9 cummins if you can get it mounted up to the tranny and get it to fit.

TR
05-10-2002, 07:04 PM
Hey peabody, it already has a 3.0 mercades 5 cylinder turbo diesel.

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Peabody
Very cool and a fair price. What engine are you thinking about swapping in? Seems like the perfect candidate for a 5.9 cummins if you can get it mounted up to the tranny and get it to fit.



Well thats the mindset I went in with when looking at mogs but it dont work that way.. and this one has the best engine transplant available in it.

one.. the frame is desinged to exacting standards.. (ladder frame with 20% twist capability using special memory channel steel) so u cant just weld to it anywhere u want. Hell if u want to extend the frame got to buy the special steel from Benz. Their are precise factory specifications about where and how to bolt and weld to the frame.

Two.. no room.. ull have the engine rubbing ur leg

three.. not a big enough market for after market parts. (adapters etc. so ur sorta stuck)

four.. Torque tube... AKA drive shaft... is an integral part of the rear susspension.. u cant like just cut and retube..

five.. Tranny and axils were built with tractor thinking... as in they felt it would never go fast soooooo... its not lubed or got enough bearings in things so if u juice them up.. and drive at higher RPMs. u burn everything up in it cept the pretty motor u added.

Six... No ring and pinouns available to change to...

soooo everyone that wants MOG axils... BE AWAREE.. u will burn them up on the hiway at 65.. 55 is pushing it... (unless u get the fast axils as they are called)

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Welby


:D

Coach, check us out, we're borrowing a rig you don't even have yet :laughing: :D

Thats ok.. Im making plans for it and I dont own it yet either..

coachgeo
05-10-2002, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by Daniel
Dont forget to get the driven trailer..
http://usa6x6.com/Conversions/Images/6x6motohome/stefanauto.jpg

In my dreams... I think this guy updated to fast axils from a 416 and uses the same engine as mine (OM671A) Ive read some of the stats on the rig and looked at close. well as close as the net would let me.

Wolfgang
05-10-2002, 11:27 PM
I can get UNIMOGS under 10 grant ! I also sell disc brakes and ctis (central tire inflation systems) for UNIMOGS !
The UNIMOG axles are not build with tractor thinking , you never burn up a UNIMOG axle at 65 miles on a higway ! I go up to 90 miles with those axles on the German Autobahn with no problems,the bearings are very large and very well lubricated !
Only the stock brakes are not good for high speed !
If someone is interested in UNIMOGS drop me an E mail .

www.killeraxles.com

Ps.An stock 404 UNIMOG will outperform most custom build 4x4s with ease (seen in Moab 2002) !:beer:

coachgeo
05-11-2002, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by Wolfgang
I can get UNIMOGS under 10 grant ! I also sell disc brakes and ctis (central tire inflation systems) for UNIMOGS !
The UNIMOG axles are not build with tractor thinking , you never burn up a UNIMOG axle at 65 miles on a higway ! I go up to 90 miles with those axles on the German Autobahn with no problems,the bearings are very large and very well lubricated !
Only the stock brakes are not good for high speed !
If someone is interested in UNIMOGS drop me an E mail .

www.killeraxles.com

Ps.An stock 404 UNIMOG will outperform most custom build 4x4s with ease (seen in Moab 2002) !:beer:

Ur comment on axils is a toss up.. as I started exploring the Mog Idea I did get 50/50 comments on that one... some said yes axil problems... some say no... but it is a pretty much a 100% agreement that the tranny has overheating problems.

Yeah... Mogs start at around 4 grand from germany folk. and go up from there. Mine is actually only 9 grand over there if I bought it in germany but it has the OM617A in it so yeah cost more.

You guys check them out... cause he is right... a Mog can out perform lots of trailer queens.... just know that its a very restrictive platform.

Dead Sled
05-11-2002, 11:57 AM
Wolfgang you're pimpin your shit again:rolleyes:

unimogken
05-11-2002, 01:37 PM
Hiya there.

I'd like to make a couple comments here.

I'm not going to push the whole Unimog thing with anyone on this list. I just want to mention some things that often get overlooked.

I'm not going to knock the price that "coachgeo" is paying for his Mog and the price he has to pay to get it here. I have been bit by the Unimog bug also and when you get emotionally involved with one its hard to stop the purchase.

Anyways, as an owner of 8 Unimogs I would tell any future owners to buy from someone in the United States. There are many many reputable dealers that import Unimogs into the U.S.. (They are not only importers of trucks, but also importer of parts and do this for a living.)

While you may be able to get a "good deal" from someone that is in Germany you'll never know what you're paying for unless you physically go over to Germany and look it over. Alot of people wire $4k+ to someone in Germany... wait 2-3 months for the shipping container to arrive only to find out that they paid $4k+ for 6700 pounds of rusted scrap metal.

If you buy from a dealer you not only get a truck that isn't a basket case and actually runs, you also get a guarantee. They also have guarantees on the parts they sell and are willing to go that extra mile for you to locate parts.

Ok, thanks for letting me vent off some steam.

Support your U.S. Unimog dealer!

Later.

Ken S.

Jayrockn7
05-11-2002, 04:32 PM
How about you post a list of some US dealers then, I'd like to look at one of these myself.:D

Station
05-11-2002, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Jayrockn7
How about you post a list of some US dealers then, I'd like to look at one of these myself.:D

Here you go.
Thanks to the folks at Rocky Mountain Moggers

http://www.rockymountainmoggers.com/links.html

Sean

flimmy
05-11-2002, 06:08 PM
coachgeo, you should look into buying one here. If you want a camper rear theres a place here in Greensburg that makes motor homes that may make you one for a couple grand. plus you could see it in person and drive it before putting out the $$$$$$$.

Berg
05-11-2002, 06:42 PM
I have no affiliation ( no pimpin here)...but these guys are near Park City ,Utah and have some nice mogs for sale.
Check out the Pinz Camper too... 6x6....
http://www.outbacklandcruisers.com/unimog/index.html
As previously said, I would suggest buying in the US. I saw a red mog like the one your looking for for sale in Salt Lake City, It was a converted (red) Mog. I know there is some around.:)

good luck

bennett

flimmy
05-11-2002, 06:54 PM
I went wheelin with a guy that was driving one of the Pinz's. It was air cooled, slow :eek: but it did have lockers F&R and the guy didn't really know how to drive :rolleyes: But I would go foe=r the MOG. btw the Pinz was a 4x4 not 6x6

zachv
05-11-2002, 07:14 PM
Anyone have any info on those "killeraxles"? They seem like the shiat and they are not much more than a Dynatrac, with better features I think.

Peabody
05-11-2002, 09:45 PM
zachv
Anyone have any info on those "killeraxles"? They seem like the shiat and they are not much more than a Dynatrac, with better features I think.

Search Grasshopper and the answers will find you. :flipoff2: Really though, this topic has been covered a million times on this board. You should find a ton of info searching

coachgeo
05-11-2002, 10:32 PM
I am buying mine THRU A DEALER that is here in the US.. Wouldnt do it anyother way.

Also the rig is at a dealership in Belgum... not from a sombody.

Originally posted by unimogken
Hiya there.

I'd like to make a couple comments here.

I'm not going to push the whole Unimog thing with anyone on this list. I just want to mention some things that often get overlooked.

I'm not going to knock the price that "coachgeo" is paying for his Mog and the price he has to pay to get it here. I have been bit by the Unimog bug also and when you get emotionally involved with one its hard to stop the purchase.

Anyways, as an owner of 8 Unimogs I would tell any future owners to buy from someone in the United States. There are many many reputable dealers that import Unimogs into the U.S.. (They are not only importers of trucks, but also importer of parts and do this for a living.)

While you may be able to get a "good deal" from someone that is in Germany you'll never know what you're paying for unless you physically go over to Germany and look it over. Alot of people wire $4k+ to someone in Germany... wait 2-3 months for the shipping container to arrive only to find out that they paid $4k+ for 6700 pounds of rusted scrap metal.

If you buy from a dealer you not only get a truck that isn't a basket case and actually runs, you also get a guarantee. They also have guarantees on the parts they sell and are willing to go that extra mile for you to locate parts.

Ok, thanks for letting me vent off some steam.

Support your U.S. Unimog dealer!

Later.

Ken S.