odd idea - hoists + heating

[crimsen]

alright. i know for a hoist the need for a higher ceiling will be manditory. but witht he higher ceiling, comes more interior space, and a larger area to heat.

my idea is to build the truss system in a regular fashion, and have like a 10' ceiling, but for where the hoist is, have the ceiling at a 14' or so height, and use a garage door or similar to seal off this area when not in use, and then roll down the wall or something when you need access to the upper area.


thoughts ?

[Travis Waldher]

Radiant floor heat

[nissancrawler]

My thought is for the little bit more in heating costs, it would take you years to be even with the costs of all the extra fabbing/royal pain in the ass to cover the hoist.

[Hackfabricaton]

I gotta agree that the additional costs of erecting some sort of wall/door/barrier to shut off the area would be more of a burden than simply adding more insulation. Unless a particular area is excessively dirty (eg: sand blast, teardown area) or needs to be squeeky clean (eg: paint room, office area) I wouldn't limit my floor space by shutting it off. The 'death shop' is gonna be 40x60 and have 10' ceilings in the machine area, and 14' in the bay area where the hoist will be.

[D60]

Ceiling fans on low will go a long way to push that heat down. But otherwise I like your idea, see if you can work up some numbers on just how much extra it would cost ya

[u2slow]

Ceiling fans on low will go a long way to push that heat down.

+1

I worked in a large fab shop last winter with high ceilings and those hanging furnace heaters. Each ceiling fan created a 'heat column' that was quite nice to work under :D

EDIT: What sort of hoist are you installing? Most 2-post designs are full height without a car on them.

[Skunk03]

Here's what we did. for our pole barn my dad put up a 6-8 foot I beam, in the center of the barn) w/ a roller truck thing on it that we could hang a come-along to. He then put up a ceiling but left the area directly below the track open so the truck can roll freely. I understand that this won't work for everyone but we've used it to pull corvette bodies off of the frame, replace engines straighten shit out....pretty much anything. As long as you can get what you need to lift in the center of your barn it works great and the ceiling really helps seal in the heat.

[crimsen]

My thought is for the little bit more in heating costs, it would take you years to be even with the costs of all the extra fabbing/royal pain in the ass to cover the hoist.

I gotta agree that the additional costs of erecting some sort of wall/door/barrier to shut off the area would be more of a burden than simply adding more insulation. Unless a particular area is excessively dirty (eg: sand blast, teardown area) or needs to be squeeky clean (eg: paint room, office area) I wouldn't limit my floor space by shutting it off. The 'death shop' is gonna be 40x60 and have 10' ceilings in the machine area, and 14' in the bay area where the hoist will be.

i think you may not quite understand what i mean. what i am thinking is basically the same as any garage door, except that it is ment to be in the "up/open" position and then "lowered/closed" when access to the upper area is needed.

if you go and open your garage door and look at how it sits at the ceiling, just imagine it creating a seal there. then for the rolling down, all that would be needed is a section how ever wide and ~6" from the wall for the door to roll down into.


Ceiling fans on low will go a long way to push that heat down. But otherwise I like your idea, see if you can work up some numbers on just how much extra it would cost ya

+1

I worked in a large fab shop last winter with high ceilings and those hanging furnace heaters. Each ceiling fan created a 'heat column' that was quite nice to work under :D

EDIT: What sort of hoist are you installing? Most 2-post designs are full height without a car on them.


this is the other thing i was thinking. wheather a fan would be of better use than sealing the area off. only thing with the fan is that you lose the 2' or how ever much the fan hangs down of area. i was thinking more in a clearance area where there is a tight limit to height.



u2slow:

i am not currently building a shop, or even putting a hoist in (still 5-10 years away) but with the 2 post lifts, are the posts not around the 8' height? i know alot of time the vehicle is only lifted ~4' off the ground, but if you need to get access under it, say for working on the drivetrain you will need it lifted about 6' to comfortably walk under it, plus the 5' of height of the frame to top of roof, would put it around a 12' height.

i am not sure of any specifications, as this is just an idea i thought up while sitting at the computer and reading of how high a ceiling is needed and the extra heating cost incurred.

i know when i was in the mechanics class at school, it was a 2 story area with storage in the second floor heigh for a small section. it was hot as fuck up there, and you could easily notice a temp change by moving your hand up a couple feet. just seems like a waste for the heat to be up there while i am working below freezing my ass off :confused: :p