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copeland
12-19-2006, 11:54 AM
I have the axle, I have the thirds coming, but I would like ot get some ideas of different SAS's performed on these newer IFS frames. Specifically, parts and materials used. This may become a spring time project so I'd like to research methods and pictures for how guys installed everything...

AddictedOffroad
12-19-2006, 12:22 PM
Link it!

http://www.allprooffroad.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=80

copeland
12-19-2006, 03:56 PM
I wonder how that kit would handle for DD duties though? anyone have a review of the kit?

halfxspaid
12-19-2006, 05:18 PM
Check here http://ttora.com/forum/

There is a wealth of info about the late model tacoma SASs there.

RockwelledToyota
12-19-2006, 05:32 PM
www.offroadsolutions.com is working on a kit

KStacoma
12-19-2006, 06:33 PM
Here is my 98, didn't use a toy. axle, used a waggy d44 because the width suited me better.
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/684/866/104501.jpg

This shows the plating/sleeving you need to do to accomidate an older IFS steering box. Also you need to put a rear sump oil pan/pickup on it from a t100.
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/684/866/89663.jpg

Other then that as far as frame mods, you just add a piece of 2x4 in between the frame rails in the front and then add your hangers below. Also of course you need to torch all the old crap off.

tacoma87
02-27-2007, 03:28 PM
what shocks are those kstacoma? also are you having problems hitting ur pitman arm under flex with the box positioned in that way?

KStacoma
02-27-2007, 04:07 PM
what shocks are those kstacoma? also are you having problems hitting ur pitman arm under flex with the box positioned in that way?

Funny you mention that, I actually was, I cured it by getting a billet pitman arm w/ 3/4" less drop, no issue since. The shocks are the longest rancho 9k's I could get but I am still max them out both ways :shaking:

CronusTRD
02-27-2007, 04:56 PM
Don't expect the All Pro Kit to work out of the box.


what axle?

tacoma87
02-27-2007, 11:30 PM
Funny you mention that, I actually was, I cured it by getting a billet pitman arm w/ 3/4" less drop, no issue since. The shocks are the longest rancho 9k's I could get but I am still max them out both ways :shaking:

are they 12" travel? im trying to solve my shock dilema and i know i should go bilstein but i would rather not fork over the money for them and get some cheapo ranchos or something. i have been studying ur truck cause its hard to find SAC reg cab tacos and i am collecting parts for mine right now so i need all the influenece i can get get.

synovus
02-28-2007, 11:31 PM
are they 12" travel? im trying to solve my shock dilema and i know i should go bilstein but i would rather not fork over the money for them and get some cheapo ranchos or something. i have been studying ur truck cause its hard to find SAC reg cab tacos and i am collecting parts for mine right now so i need all the influenece i can get get.

Here's a well done reg cab SAS. http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38134

tacoma87
03-01-2007, 06:54 AM
yea i have read up on josh's truck to but i hate that he sold it so quickly cause i wanted to learn from his "mistakes" a couple months after doing it and what needed to be changed and so on

Slowzuki
03-01-2007, 08:22 AM
I too am looking for info, trying to decide whats easiest,

a) buy a prerunner, swap in a 5 spd tranny/case with pass drop and use the toy axle I have

b) buy a 4x4, buy a diamond housing or similar and buy some custom inners and long's for drivers side drop

c) buy a 4x4 and drop a d44 in there. I'm more of a 3rd member kinda guy but I'm flexible

TTORA link, the truck is way high for what I'm thinking. Too much lift.

TacomaJoe95
03-01-2007, 09:13 AM
Click on my build link below. There are some good pics there.

Infernal Jeep
03-01-2007, 11:16 AM
Here is my 98, didn't use a toy. axle, used a waggy d44 because the width suited me better.
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/684/866/104501.jpg

This shows the plating/sleeving you need to do to accomidate an older IFS steering box. Also you need to put a rear sump oil pan/pickup on it from a t100.
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/684/866/89663.jpg

Other then that as far as frame mods, you just add a piece of 2x4 in between the frame rails in the front and then add your hangers below. Also of course you need to torch all the old crap off.

Bad ass,I wheeled with you in Arkansas before you did the SAS.Looks good man!

tacoma87
03-01-2007, 01:42 PM
I too am looking for info, trying to decide whats easiest,

a) buy a prerunner, swap in a 5 spd tranny/case with pass drop and use the toy axle I have

b) buy a 4x4, buy a diamond housing or similar and buy some custom inners and long's for drivers side drop

c) buy a 4x4 and drop a d44 in there. I'm more of a 3rd member kinda guy but I'm flexible

TTORA link, the truck is way high for what I'm thinking. Too much lift.

for the record josh's truck on ttora is one of the lower solid axle tacos around that i have found. u cant go much lower without limiting travel...i think it is like 25"s to the frame maybe a little lower

Slowzuki
03-01-2007, 02:01 PM
Well, obviously the rear isn't the issue, it was lifted to match the front but the front is using shackle below the frame instead of sleeved for one. Looks like a little flatter spring could be used. Could save 3-4 inches there, looks like you could squeak an inch out of the front hangers.

Is there an oil pan issue with the T-100 pan or something? My zuk was setup with maybe 3-4" uptravel and all droop. Wheeled ok.

Maybe I'm just used to the regular truck conversions.

for the record josh's truck on ttora is one of the lower solid axle tacos around that i have found. u cant go much lower without limiting travel...i think it is like 25"s to the frame maybe a little lower

tacoma87
03-01-2007, 03:10 PM
all tacos have the front shackles mounted below the frame instead of thru it...and yes there is an oil pan issue because the taco oil sump is right where the draglink will hit under flex so it is swapped for a t100 oil pan that puts the sump at the back. also with the tacos at 25-27"s to the frame seems like most trucks are wider than they are tall so it works out. might have been an issue with a sami being that tall cause of it being narrow.

Edisonsteve
03-01-2007, 03:33 PM
Allpro offroads Taco supreme also uses a T100 oil pan.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/Edisonsteve/front.jpg

Slowzuki
03-02-2007, 05:48 AM
I know about the T100 pan, was just wondering if it is lower than the old 2.4's pan on the solid axle models or something that reduces clearance.

The zuks its hard to build them low too, you have to chop sheet metal, but a zuk on toys with a low stance can squeeze 37's in with some fender cutting. Surely a taco can stay a bit lower.

Here's scwafish's old rig. There a few others around, some even lower.

http://suzuki.off-road.com/suzuki/data/articlestandard/suzuki/532005/277447/samyota10.jpg

all tacos have the front shackles mounted below the frame instead of thru it...and yes there is an oil pan issue because the taco oil sump is right where the draglink will hit under flex so it is swapped for a t100 oil pan that puts the sump at the back. also with the tacos at 25-27"s to the frame seems like most trucks are wider than they are tall so it works out. might have been an issue with a sami being that tall cause of it being narrow.

FAUX X 4
03-02-2007, 10:59 AM
for the record josh's truck on ttora is one of the lower solid axle tacos around that i have found. u cant go much lower without limiting travel...i think it is like 25"s to the frame maybe a little lower

Mine comes in at 25" to the frame on 39's with 5" of uptravel..........3 link with 17" coilovers.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/Poser%20Shots/Front.jpg

Blue-Beard
03-02-2007, 11:31 AM
for the record josh's truck on ttora is one of the lower solid axle tacos around that i have found. u cant go much lower without limiting travel...i think it is like 25"s to the frame maybe a little lower

My taco on ttora is sitting at 23.5" to the frame on 37" tires, 5" of uptravel.

Slowzuki
03-02-2007, 12:24 PM
Those numbers are getting closer to what I'm talking about. On 33's or 34 with 4" of uptravel I'd be closer to what I'm looking for in a dd. The police here target lifted vehicles, there is a problem with the law and if you get pulled over, your registration basically changed to scrapped vehicle until it is put back stock.

KStacoma
03-02-2007, 04:15 PM
Damn, mines at 26" to bottom of frame underneath my door and i'm on 35's but it doesn't seem too tall or tippy to me imo.

Edisonsteve
03-05-2007, 02:06 PM
24.5 to the frame, 4.25 up traval, 37"s

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/Edisonsteve/DSCF1220.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/Edisonsteve/DSCF1219.jpg

justinh
03-06-2007, 02:55 PM
24.5 to the frame, 4.25 up traval, 37"s

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/Edisonsteve/DSCF1220.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/Edisonsteve/DSCF1219.jpg

I love that truck but $35k was a lot of money!

Edisonsteve
03-09-2007, 02:43 PM
Paid 25k and got a extra set of 37" bfg tires.

roctaco
03-27-2007, 02:30 PM
edison steve, that's a sick taco! Did you move the front axle forward at all? I'm digging the bobbed bed & cut fenders.

copeland
03-29-2007, 01:41 AM
Mine comes in at 25" to the frame on 39's with 5" of uptravel..........3 link with 17" coilovers.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/Poser%20Shots/Front.jpg

Who made that bumper? it's amazing:grinpimp: :smokin:

FAUX X 4
03-29-2007, 05:31 PM
Who made that bumper? it's amazing:grinpimp: :smokin:

Thanks! :D ...A buddy and myself made it.

copeland
03-30-2007, 01:12 AM
Thanks! :D ...A buddy and myself made it.

I'd suggest you take that into production...I'd buy one.:grinpimp:

FAUX X 4
03-30-2007, 04:08 PM
I'd suggest you take that into production...I'd buy one.:grinpimp:

No can do.............I specialize in one of a kind! :D

blacksheep312
03-31-2007, 09:22 PM
Ooooh, ok, I will play too.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e12/blacksheep312/new-1.jpg