: Unimog axles


Wolfgang
05-10-2002, 11:55 PM
Yes we sold our axles to the US !They are stronger than Volvo portals ,the Volvo is an smaller truck . One customer is

www.crusherengineering.com

he runs 44s on his rig and he is very happy with the axles .They outperform all Dana axles and also the Rockwells ! Rockwell fans thats the reality UNIMOG axles are better ! Everybody here in this forum is against the 404 axle and nobody has ever used one ,THEY ARE STRONGER THAN THOSE FUNNY DANA 60s !! In Moab this year we used our killeraxles and they outperformed everything ,and nothing broke like on the 60s!We tried to brake our axles but nothing happend ! Now we are building also hybrid portal axles with a wide choice of lockers and gears , and we are also introducing an CTIS (central tire inflation system) for the 404 and hybrid axles !
To get the UNIMOG ground clerance you have to cut a D 60 in the middle !All Dana and rockwells are ground anchors, compared to an UNIMOG axle !

www.killeraxles.com

Peace:eek: :nuke:

evilfij
05-11-2002, 12:06 AM
this is not the for sale section. delete your post before a moderator sees it

Ron

44Runner
05-11-2002, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by evilfij
this is not the for sale section. delete your post before a moderator sees it

Ron

Yeah, seriously.....WTF?

Sillyneck
05-11-2002, 12:19 AM
and when I scratch your $15k axles while driving up and over your rig we'll see who's bitching about cooler axles!

Jesus don't be an ignorant newbie coming up in this joint pimpin' yer sh!t w/ a fawkin' "my sh!t don't stink" attitude cause you won't last long and you sure as sh!t aren't going to sell anything...especially comercial!

I say ban him because he didn't read the RULES!!!!

Wolfgang
05-11-2002, 02:08 AM
Sorry, for posting in the wrong section.:emb4:
But it is still the truth what i wrote:rolleyes:

I can not understand why SILLYNECK is fighting against everything new, like an Arabian.
Did i hurt you, Sillyneck?

I ever heard, american people are very friendly.

Is it a rule of this forum not to be friendly?

Sillyneck, when you use the name "Jesus", please read the bible and then think about what you wrote.
"Ban him" thats what they said to Jesus.

Now you can ban me, i donīt care

44Runner
05-11-2002, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Wolfgang
Sorry, for posting in the wrong section.:emb4:
But it is still the truth what i wrote:rolleyes:

Now you can ban me, i donīt care

Actually, there is no section here where you can just gush crap over your IP. There are plenty of people that run 404 axles and break them regularly. Don't be so ignorant.

Well seeing as he doesn't care, can we get a Moderator on that right away...

Wolfgang
05-11-2002, 03:43 AM
44Runner
What do you want to tell me now. You never saw broken Danaīs or Rockwellīs only Unimog axles?? Did you personally saw a broken Unimog axle? Or do you know a friend who has a friend that was told that somewhere is a guy out there who heard about a broken Unimog Axle. But he did not know why this axle broke. Sure any axle can brake. But you kill a lot of Dana 60īs before you kill one Unimog axle.
I like the American made stuff more than the most of the German junk, but in this case i would prefer the Unimog axle NOT because it is German made because it is the better choice.
BTW the axles are the only German parts on my 4X4. All other parts are made in the USA!!
Letīs talk together, not fight against each other.

Regards Wolfgang

Zukster
05-11-2002, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by Wolfgang
In Moab this year we used our killeraxles and they outperformed everything ,and nothing broke like on the 60s

Perhaps you don't remember Tyson's little mishap at the hot tubs. Don't you remember how his 3rd member cracked in half splitting his pinion. I can email pictures to someone with a red star to post of the broken Unimog axle to help you remember. It also seems you talked about how you had broken a third member in a similar way previously.

BTW - I was very impressed by your truck.

Wolfgang
05-11-2002, 07:56 AM
Hi Zukster

The way how Thyson destroyed his axle is good to destroy any axle. This axle is broken by a very heavy impact.
I talked about a broken axle in a similar way which i saw in the german Army.
As i wrote earlier, it is possible to break any axle. iīve destroyed 3 Dana 60īs an i can send you many pics showing broken Dana axle parts.
Avalanche has destroyed his Titan in Moab!
shit happens

Thanx for liking my truck:rolleyes:

Zukster
05-11-2002, 10:06 AM
I know any axle can be broken under the right (or wrong) conditions. In your first post you made it seem like the Unimog axles were virtually unbreakable, which we both know is false.

Also, I don't think anyone can say for 100% certainty what caused Thysons axle to break. It did not hit anything when it broke (I was in the passenger seat), but it was under heavy load. Its a guess (an educated guess though) that a previous heavy impact did the damage.

44Runner
05-11-2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Wolfgang
Letīs talk together, not fight against each other.

You brought on the fight with your crappy attitude bro. I am a fan of Unimog axles, and I would run them on my rig. Since I don't have money squirting out my rear, I think I will stick with my 44/8" combo. The only thing I am saying is that anything is breakable, and yes, I have seen many pictures of broken 404s, not many 416s though. Another thing that you don't seem to get is that you are pimping out that damn killer axle site that the board has had SO many problem with some previous homo doing the same thing. Not to point fingers, but I would not be surprised if that homo got a new name and it is Wolfgang. The pervious guy had the same bad attitude you have. Not only are you not allow to pimp crap here, why would anyone respond to your kind of shit slinging trash talk. Definately not the way to go.

Back to the axle thing. 404 vs 60/RW. I have not priced a RW, but I know I could get them cheap, I have seen the prices people get for them here on the board. I know that to get a 404 rear end I would be paying probably like $1000. Why on earth would I pay that kind of money when I can find 60s and 70s in the local junkyard all day long for 200 bones or less. You also have to keep in mind that I have yet to break my 8". I hope to one day soon, but it hasn't happened yet. 14 bolts are probably even cheaper than a 60, and good luck breaking that. Rockwells are beefy axles, more so than a 14 bolt. An awesome axle, that will not break. Even though I don't have that much knowledge of mog axles, I would like to see their specs compared to a RW, I would be suprised if they were beefier...

RHINO
05-11-2002, 10:39 AM
back in my unimog days i hung with a guy who had lots of money, he was cool, cuz he did alot of guini pig stuff for the rest of us. anyway, he put a deisel in his with an overdrive box, it was great, better mileage even more torque and highway speeds you can live with. unfortunately we got a good scare one day while doing 75MPH speed limit when the rear axle locked up. come to find out unimog axles, just like trannies are not lubricated well enough at those speeds. dont get me wrong its an awsome machine at 50MPH, i dont know if someone has come up with a solution to this yet, other than newer axles, but for now on my street driven trail rig, i'll stick with a lubricated machine.

Wolfgang
05-11-2002, 12:33 PM
@Rhino
i dont know what happened with that locked up axle. I run my CJ with the 406 axles for more than 4 years sometimes with the top speed of 85 miles (only for a short time)without a lubrication problem. I had a 500 Caddy motor with a TH 400 tranny.
Now i run the 404īs in my GMC pick up with a 6,2 Diesel and a 4L80E tranny. I can do a top speed about 95 miles. I can travel a long distance with 75 miles/h. This truck is street legal and i drive the truck almost every day. So far i had no lubrication problem and i hope i never have some. Right now i drove this truck about 4000 miles.

@Zukster,
Yes, if i said the axles are unbreakable, i am wrong

@44runner

sure, the MOG axles are not the best axles for everthing, but they are really beefy and dont forget a very important point: the groundclearance. That is what we need for Offroad.
You are right, itīs cheaper to find a Dana axle at the local junk yard. I never said that the MOG axles are cheap, but if you take a look at the price list for a good build Dana 60 than you find out that the MOG axles are not expencive. And who else can offer a CTIS.

unimogken
05-11-2002, 01:24 PM
*pinches lips together*

mmm, mmm mmmmm :D

Later.

Ken S.

tj7
05-11-2002, 03:10 PM
i still dont understand why yur mogs are soooooooooo fawkin expensive...ford calipers and drive shaft flanges are no biggy ..cuttin it down no biggy but your shafts and disc brake conversion damnnnnnnnnn. thats alot of money man ...you know i emailed you awhile back asking you if you would sell me parts so i can do it myself .which i have to say you got back to me 3 weeks later.also i had to go through your biy charly in ny which also was a fawkin pain in the ass...now you are selling parts because you know noone will buy that crap for 12geez....i like your stuff no doubt...but the gearing is still ridiculous 7.56 ...so i went with 60's ....i hope they wont break like you say they will...:flipoff2:

Wolfgang
05-12-2002, 12:27 AM
@ TJ7
They are not expencive, maybe you can not afford this.
We do not use Ford parts.
Everything is sooo easy to do. You can find the axles on any junkyard and everybody will do the rest of the work for about 50 bucks. New shafts? No problem! Maybe Auto-Zone will sell you some out of the shelf. New hubs? The machine shop around the corner is waiting for you.
Why the heck are you asking me for the parts?
Why do you go with the 60īs when you like the MOG axles and its all an eas to do?
Look at the price for an disc-brake conversion for a CJ with almost stock parts. Go to Dynatrac and order a comparable Dana 60 (6500$) and itīs real easy to find this axle on a junk yard.
I am asking about 10000$ for a set (2axles).
I do not sell parts, i sell disc brake conversions to the Unimog guys, a lot in Europa and Africa.

Go to the Junkyard for your next car. Itīs a lot cheaper there than to buy a new Chevy from a dealer.

Spankbomb
05-12-2002, 02:26 AM
Wolfgang,

You had me interested in your disc brake conversion for my 404 rockcrawler project, but now I seem to be turned off. Like you said, you don't sell parts, so maybe I'll figure out something and let Baertrax in DFW fab it for me.

Not bashing your goods, just the way you post. Thanks for the ideas.

Sillyneck
05-12-2002, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Wolfgang
Sorry, for posting in the wrong section.:emb4:
But it is still the truth what i wrote:rolleyes:

I can not understand why SILLYNECK is fighting against everything new, like an Arabian.
Did i hurt you, Sillyneck?

I ever heard, american people are very friendly.

Is it a rule of this forum not to be friendly?

Sillyneck, when you use the name "Jesus", please read the bible and then think about what you wrote.
"Ban him" thats what they said to Jesus.

Now you can ban me, i donīt care

NO DUESCHE BAG! cause you didn't read the fawkin' agreement to join the BOARD! you can't pimp' your sh!t for sale on here! unless you want to drop cash to lance and get a legit ad. You are the standard issue newbie w/ some valuable info....but you fawked up stepping up to the plate w/ this attituted that your stuff is KING! the only way to score points here is to post and help peole before you think you've earned the ranks to actually say something that's not going to get torn apart like this.....I'd delete the ad before anyone sees it then maybe you can scurry back the agreement and read what you did wrong...or maybe even read the f-ing rules! damn newbies! I've just seen one too many lately and I'll jump down your throat because you are a business man and should know better.

tj7
05-12-2002, 03:05 AM
hey hitler...first off i built my own shit i would never give dynac trac my money ...second of all dont even compare yourself to them you are not a pimple on their ass.also its pretty funny how ,when i spoke to you ,you told me the calipers you are using are from a new ford dually dual piston deal i guess you are a liar then.auto zone is that supposed to be funny cause i dont think us canadians or americans have the same sense of humour ass you europeans....

BillaVista
05-12-2002, 03:12 AM
Silly,
I got your back bro...BIGTIME!

Wolfgang,

Take yer spam, and especially your racist shit

I can not understand why SILLYNECK is fighting against everything new, like an Arabian.

and piss off. I got no time for that crap. Unless you were talking about horses.

Wolfgang
05-12-2002, 11:13 AM
@ 44 Runner
Stop talking about technic. I saw your 4runner hahahahahahaha
No Brain no pain!!!!!!!! a 4 runner hihihihi

Billavista
You rig is real high tec. huhuhuhuhuhu. BTW i know a set of samurai-axles. interested??

Sillyneck,
I thought you have a real Offroader, but your YJ ???????
Dont talk about real axles, you dont know what you are talking about.

TJ, look at my pics, where do you see a Ford caliper???
Itīs not the humour you do not have, itīs the brain.


Eh, Kids shut your mouth

Now i am out of this forum

I really hope, and i am almost sure that the most other members of this forum are ok

Sillyneck
05-12-2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Wolfgang
@ 44 Runner
Stop talking about technic. I saw your 4runner hahahahahahaha
No Brain no pain!!!!!!!! a 4 runner hihihihi

Billavista
You rig is real high tec. huhuhuhuhuhu. BTW i know a set of samurai-axles. interested??

Sillyneck,
I thought you have a real Offroader, but your YJ ???????
Dont talk about real axles, you dont know what you are talking about.

TJ, look at my pics, where do you see a Ford caliper???
Itīs not the humour you do not have, itīs the brain.


Eh, Kids shut your mouth

Now i am out of this forum

I really hope, and i am almost sure that the most other members of this forum are ok

hahah the newbie did all this writing and still did not read my damn post! maybe they don't have rules in germany? well anyways he says he's gone but I bet he comes back to rebut this soon so for him: Wolfgang...I like portals. i wish i had some but your dumb@$$ is too retarded to heed my warnings about legally getting ad space. You can't sell stuff here or promote your own products. that's 3 times now? right people? let's see if he gets it this time.

44Runner
05-12-2002, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Wolfgang
@ 44 Runner
Stop talking about technic. I saw your 4runner hahahahahahaha
No Brain no pain!!!!!!!! a 4 runner hihihihi


Are you really such a looser that you have to bash my rig? That is SO pathetic. I am in college, you know what that is right? Well most of us college students don't have the time and money that it takes to build the killer rig we would like. Fortunately, though, we are also a bunch smarter than YOU, so you don't see me cryin...

road1will
05-12-2002, 12:23 PM
why hasnt he been banned yet? :rolleyes:

SHERPA
05-12-2002, 12:28 PM
Hey Wolfy,

buck-up and think twice about bashing folks on the board....
I read your post, and think, the guy is stating facts that
unimog axles are the best....Then, you add more about
selling them.......... You outta go back and read some of the
"newbie" needs to read this posts.............
Basically, the POR board (Lance-owner of the board) doesn't
want commercial sales to happen here.....Unless, you would
like to be a "sponsor" to POR...........which means you'll need
to pay some money to promote your business here.......

As for you being bashed, think again, some of these guys
have been here for awhile.

So, you have portal axles for sale.........cool........... how
much are they? and, all of this (if you intend on selling)
should be the FOR SALE forum.....

good luck,

--Sherpa

current builder of ford DANA HP 60's

Sillyneck
05-12-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
Hey Wolfy,

buck-up and think twice about bashing folks on the board....
I read your post, and think, the guy is stating facts that
unimog axles are the best....Then, you add more about
selling them.......... You outta go back and read some of the
"newbie" needs to read this posts.............
Basically, the POR board (Lance-owner of the board) doesn't
want commercial sales to happen here.....Unless, you would
like to be a "sponsor" to POR...........which means you'll need
to pay some money to promote your business here.......

As for you being bashed, think again, some of these guys
have been here for awhile.

So, you have portal axles for sale.........cool........... how
much are they? and, all of this (if you intend on selling)
should be the FOR SALE forum.....

good luck,

--Sherpa

current builder of ford DANA HP 60's

well said :D I don't think he understands at all though :D he sent me an e-mail that said I was an @$$ and didn't know anything about axles...I know 1 thing :D he ain't selling any here :D

tj7
05-12-2002, 01:04 PM
hey guys this fawker will not sell any at all. i heard he is a real prick to deal with from one of his own sources hahahahah! and that is the truth...as far as him making fun of anyones rig all i have to say is wolfshmuch look at your american partners crap before you knock anyone else first...:flipoff2: what the fawk is it with these fawking german mentalities...im not bashing and race or religion here but....i used to work for mercedes benz as a technician for 5v years these fawking guys are soooooo hardheaded and think whatever they build and design is the best in the world...well the worst thing that happened to jeep was those krauts buying them:flipoff2:

take your attitude and fawk off from our board,you blood sausage
eating,ayran movemnet ,hilter henchman ,red unimog axle using shmuck....
:usa: :usa: :usa:
even though i am CANADIAN i always hated european thinking
not too mention i have some deep seated hatred with nazi's as my grandparents where in the holocaust...but he people are people and not all germans are dicks only the ones who think there shit is better then anyone else...

i really think this should be deleated as wolfgang puck is getting too much exposure here too...:flipoff2:

BillaVista
05-12-2002, 01:20 PM
Look,

He thought it appropriate to send me a veiled threat in an e-mail.

You Cherokee is only a big pice of shit. Shut your mouth and stay with your junk. It is my right not to like the arabiens and tell me where are the racists
better leave me alone Kid

Listen pal.


That is cowardly and off-side. My wife and kids read our e-mail, and that bothers them, so please do not send any more e-mails to my home. And I am not a kid, I am a 33 year old Officer in the Canadian Air Force. Please do not e-mail me any more.

If you want to talk shit to me - by all means do so here, man to man, but keep it out of my personal e-mail please.

Thank You

PYRO
05-12-2002, 02:11 PM
IMO, Time to BAN this fucker

Wolfgang
05-12-2002, 02:20 PM
@TJ
One more time
If somebody is mad about me, ok
But if you call me a NAZI, itīs the same like to call me a murder. Thatīs poor. But thats your attitude

Donīt talk about Nazis. I donīt talk about the American history.

You called me a Nazi! I AM JEWISH

SHERPA
05-12-2002, 02:24 PM
wolfgang,

keep on the topic..............how about those axles? or do you

INSIST on being banned? cause at your rate, we might

start taking bet's on how long before you're gone..........my money

says mid-monday PST................

you outta kill this thread right now if you'd like to continue

on the board...........PLease, don't bring in politics here.

unless you're fighting to keep trails open, and I don't see that

happening from Germany............. and don't email anybody

to their home........ the PM yes, email no...............

--Sherpa

trying to keep the place civil.......................

apeters89
05-12-2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by 44Runner


Are you really such a looser that you have to bash my rig? That is SO pathetic. I am in college, you know what that is right? Well most of us college students don't have the time and money that it takes to build the killer rig we would like.

I'll vouch for that!!!:beer:

SHERPA
05-12-2002, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by 44Runner


Are you really such a looser that you have to bash my rig? That is SO pathetic. I am in college, you know what that is right? Well most of us college students don't have the time and money that it takes to build the killer rig we would like. Fortunately, though, we are also a bunch smarter than YOU, so you don't see me cryin...

And don't forget the:

Hey, I'm married, with a mortgage, 3 young kids, a a bunch
of bills I have to pay, etc.

I have 2 jobs, and take any additional sidework I can get!
I have been the "Overtime" king at my work for every 9+
freaking years since I've been here............And I'm still
trying to get my junk running.... 6yrs and counting.

I hear ya about the college thing too... cause when I went to
college, I was always broke............

--Sherpa

tj7
05-12-2002, 04:43 PM
You called me a Nazi! I AM JEWISH


okay whatever...then maybe your not but you don't have to act like one on here...

btw i am also if the jewish faith...:flipoff2:

most of us guys on here build our own shit or have buddies who help out it is a very select few that have 10 grand to shell out on dynacraps or currie or whatever even your stuff... like i said your stuff is awesome but its alot of money and especially if its going in a daily driver it its feasible...
just cop the attitude podt you shit up in the for sale section and delete this stuff and we will call it a game...
as far as emailing guys ...dude that is so unkool unless you wanna ask him out on a date you should not be doing shit like that man....relax and dont take everything so personnal ...about the arab stuff well i do have to admit that was pretty funny but pushing your stuff like there is nothing better in the world is stupid....:flipoff2:

Sillyneck
05-12-2002, 05:39 PM
wow...he went to my site and said my jeep sucked! hahah I went to his lame ass site and saw his lame ass projects. :D haha look at the jeep :D puss.....I like the chevy. The land cruiser is alright. What the hell is this guy's deal. I could put some goggles on and out mud bog his weenie rigs all day :D AND NOT BREAK AXLES! :D

elf_cruiser
05-12-2002, 10:14 PM
uhhh...
i like rockwells, who said rockwells are bad?

P.S. go away newbie!

Advent Horizon
05-12-2002, 11:10 PM
Dammit, some people make all us newbies look bad :flipoff2:

Also, I'm a college student, too. Hence the 33's and stock axels under my rig :flipoff2:


Although, I can see why he doesn't break many axles...they don't seem to be on the ground much :D
http://www.killeraxles.com/crash_5.xxl.jpg

yjtj
05-13-2002, 02:13 AM
you cant find these axles in any junkyard. no U.S. jyard i have ever been in has had them. and if you broke it imagine how long you would have to wait for parts. as for all americans being nice, were not, were all assholes, keep fucking with us, youll find out. man what an attitude. i thought you were trying to sell your shit, an attitude like that will lose you sales here in the U.S. your prices are not that bad really compared to dynatrac and currie and such, but we can get dana axles cheap in our j yards. i woudnt wanna know what shipping would be. its to bad you acted like a dick head as im sure you may have gotten some business off this site.:usa:

Dingo
05-13-2002, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by Wolfgang
Go to Dynatrac and order a comparable Dana 60 (6500$) and itīs real easy to find this axle on a junk yard.
I am asking about 10000$ for a set (2axles).




That sounds like a lot of cash $$$ to me.

Wolfgang
05-13-2002, 10:00 AM
@YJTJ
The prices are including shipping to USA. You can get parts within 3 days by airfreight or from Unimog dealers in US.
(sorry, i dont want to sell something now, i answer to a question)

Sure, i agree, itīs a lot cheaper for you to build your own Dana axles because there are plenty around.
Call the Unimog dealers, maybe you can get some used portalaxles cheap there and then build your own Portal axle.

J Bruce
05-13-2002, 11:35 AM
These guys are a hell of a lot cheaper and I'll bet the customer service will be a lot better.

About $6600 US for a pair of 404 axles converted to disc brakes.

http://www.exaxt.ca/

Dingo
05-13-2002, 11:38 AM
Now that price seems alot more reasonable to me....still alot of dough, but more reasonable.

Scout Dude
05-13-2002, 12:06 PM
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tj7
05-13-2002, 01:27 PM
bahahahaah! that's funny as hell...:D

schuss
05-13-2002, 02:16 PM
christ whatta moron. He's never gonna sell any axles by being a dick. When will people learn :rolleyes: . As for Mog axles, considering you can get a WHOLE mog for 6000 or so, doesn't seem like that great of a deal to me. So do these axles come stuffed with cash, gold plated, what?

J Bruce
05-13-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by schuss
As for Mog axles, considering you can get a WHOLE mog for 6000 or so, doesn't seem like that great of a deal to me. So do these axles come stuffed with cash, gold plated, what?

Read the web page. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

A basic set of unimog axles converted to normal driveshaft yokes (no torque tubes) is around $2000 US.

The $6000 or so gets you disc brakes, 8 on 6.5 bolt pattern for rims and other goodies.