KYJ10
12-24-2006, 03:11 PM
I basically got this for free. 93 with 4.3 and 4x4. power everything. Runs and is super comfortable. Body is a rust bucket, but inside and out, every option works. I basically no nothing about it. But after i sold my buggy, I kinda am getting the itch again.
Rather than spending 15k again to build something I rarely used, I was thinking of just doing a few things to use this around the trails here. Basically all mud and hills, creeks etc. Was basically thinking some 35's, axle swaps, winch so on. Staying away from the klunes and 4 link crazy I did to the jeep. I guess any info on what is in it now, axles,tcase etc would be helpful.
Really don't need the 1 ton crazy, just a set of 44's. What fits and such. I can get 44's off wide trac FSJ's for cheap. I know I would like a little wider than whatever is stock now. Are there any basic bolt in axles? The back Im sure is easy, but what about the front? I would like to do away with whatever the front suspension is, and go with leafs? I have fairly good fab skills, so thats not a problem. But any way, any advice would be great. Thanks, Dennis
Hanr3
12-25-2006, 11:30 AM
4.3L V6/4L60E/NP233 (drivers side drop).
Front 7.25/rear 7 5/8" about 54"(back)-55"(front) track wideth.
2door is 100.5" wheelbase.
4door is 107" wheelbase.
Weighs about 3600-3800 pounds.
Stock will fit up to 30" tires. 2" of lift and 31" will fit.
6" lift and 33" fit provided your running 5"-6" backspacing on the wheels.
Wheels are 5 on 4.75" with 5.5"-6" of backspacing. 2wdr versions have less backspacing. GM uses this pattern and backspacing on several models, Firebirds, Corvettes to name two of them.
Boxed frame back to at least the t-case and maybe back to the end of the back seat.
Flat bottom, nothing hangs below the frame, not the t-case ofrgas tank like your old Heep.
Soldi axle swap spring over in back and have fun. Doesn't get any simple then that. There are a bunch of S10 on this site, look around. Or go to S10Extremists.com for everything you need to know.
b454rat
12-25-2006, 03:04 PM
I thought the WMS was around 58-60"??? Whatever it is, you can use 80s Waggy axles, 44s front and rear. The front is driver drop, don't have to swap out the t-case. EB 44 front and 9" rear, IIRC the closest to stock WMS of S-10s. With the Waggy front, you could use the entire front suspension, or build your own. I want to do this to my Blazer, just trying to figure out what way to go. With the stock Waggy suspension you can clear 31s. This style is SUA. Keeping everything stock but going SOA, you can clear 33s, maybe 35s. Go to one of the sites listed in the other posts, a shitload of info....
KYJ10
12-25-2006, 04:45 PM
Yea, the wheel wells are rusted out totally, so with wider axles and some major trimming, maybe I can get some bigs without a lift. Seems that the front axle has some wierd air engaged deal. How will that cross over to a solid axle? I guess get an axle with lockouts, and plug that air line?
Hanr3
12-26-2006, 03:12 PM
Track wideth and WMS are two different things. Track wideth is to the center of the tire according to GM, while WMS is to the hub face.
Good choice of replacement axles.
The t-case is shifted via electronically. The front diff is engaged with a cable, the cable is moved via a vacuum off the t-case. The vacuum actuator is located under the battery tray (NBS) or next to the battery (OBS). A vacuum line runs down to the t-case from the back side of the engine, once the t-case is engaged the vacuum travels up to the vacuum actuator, which then pulls the cable. It wont have any effect on a solid axle swap. I would take take the vacuum line of the tee fiting behind the distrbiurator cap and plug the tee fitting so you dont lose engine vacuum. Tehn take the vacuum line off the t-case (plug that hole too) and attach the hose to the vent hose on the tranny. Feel for it up top near the bellhousing. Then you can take the vacuum actuator out and the cable that runs to the front axle.