You guys get to see the pics first. I probably won't post mine to my page until I can get some of the other digital pics other people took. It's easier to get it all in the right order if I have all the files at once.

This is the hardest trail I have ever run and would give any other trail a run for it's money. Sure, the waterfall at the end is basically a winch thrill ride, the one before that is actually more technical and requires you to drive and turn while keeping tension on a winch line (unless you got rear steer or nuts the size of these. (http://www.trucknutz.com/) . The real trail is just getting to the waterfalls. Nonstop VW sized rocks, cracks, and ledges all provide hours of entertainment with no go arounds.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn1926.jpg

Bad Karma's rig with 39's.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn1939.jpg

Crashinaz only got to play for a little bit before popping a birf where Zags popped on last time, it was the exact same spot!

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn1952.jpg

Zags playing on an interesting line.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn1968.jpg

The repair to Bad Karms broken leaf. A little welding, some clamps and a chain to limit the axle movement.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn1992.jpg

Pretty much the point of no return, you don't want to have to drive back down this ledge.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2004.jpg

Get up the ledge and take a hard left.....

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2030.jpg

More ledges.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2060.jpg

Superbirfs rule....

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2076.jpg

Same ledge as above.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2081.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2092.jpg

Zuk getting some airtime.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2118.jpg

Those 38's sure do look small next to the rocks.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2127.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2131.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2141.jpg

Mark's current configuration in the tweaking stages.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2159.jpg

Almost to the falls.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2160.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2165.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2201.jpg

We were so close we could taste it at this point, must have been aroun 4:30pm. We must have spent an hour or more getting everyone the last 200 yards.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2210.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2131.jpg

The first waterfall. Most people go up to the first ledge, turn and continue up to the right.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2243.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2252.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2257.jpg

Airzuk :D

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2285.jpg

One of the few waterfall shots we took that turned out :confused:

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2317.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2318.jpg

Going down the exit road after midnight.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2390.jpg

Zuk also posted a great picture here. (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53994)

Sweeeeeeeeeet! :grinpimp:

Azrckcrawler for president!!!!!!! (Anxious for some more end waterall pics)

Exit road was one bad mutha too.:eek:

Nice pix. Not too many of th final falls? Maybe we can get copies of the video?;)

Originally posted by HeyheyXJ
Sweeeeeeeeeet! :grinpimp:

Azrckcrawler for president!!!!!!! (Anxious for some more end waterall pics)

Well, I have about 100 blurry pictures and they are all from the last waterfall. I don't know what was up with my camera, it was just serviced and had a new lense and focus assembly put in after I got to much sand and dust in it (it died in Moab). I have 4 end waterfall pics that looked ok and Pat took those. Zuk just sent me these:

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/zuk-333.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/zuk-335.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/zuk-337.jpg

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/zuk-338.jpg

Originally posted by JackA
Exit road was one bad mutha too.:eek:

Nice pix. Not too many of th final falls? Maybe we can get copies of the video?;)

I am really pissed about the camera. All that work (and I mean work) for nothing. When I get a copy I'll dub some for you guys, it'll be better than nothing. Here's what the blurry ones look like.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/dscn2305.jpg

Once again Chris you come through with the goods. Excellent pics can't wait to see some video. that last waterfall looks insane.

That looks like some sweet fun.It is about time I start building so I can play too.Looks like I should limit the sheetmetal though:eek: :eek:

Great pics.Nice job guys.

Are there winch points anchored into the rock or a tree or something at the top? Would be a scary place to have winch or cable fail thats for sure. Great pics :smokin:

Those last few pics of the "waterfall" are crazy......how high is that? Looks insane. Good pics.;)

nice pics/ guess you have to be freshly released from an assylum to run it, huh?

:eek: :eek: :eek: sweet!!:D

nice :smokin: :D

ohh man, i cannot wait to move there, how far from town is this trail???

I'm not sure where this one is but most trails in the Phoenix area are not more then an hour away from town!

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
ohh man, i cannot wait to move there, how far from town is this trail???

I can see the mountains from my house :smokin: , hell, Dave lives next door to it.

Great pics Chris!

Jim

Crashinaz posted some of his pictures here: Asylum 5/11-5/12 (http://www.fototime.com/inv/A4FBBA4753D94E1)

I'm still:zzz:
Great pics guys.
The next time I think we can do it in 23hours:confused:

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler
Crashinaz posted some of his pictures here: Asylum 5/11-5/12 (http://www.fototime.com/inv/A4FBBA4753D94E1)

wait until you see this Video!!

you guys are cool......

Chris, I'll get a copy to you right away..and you can copy it and pass them out....

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


wait until you see this Video!!

you guys are cool......

Chris, I'll get a copy to you right away..and you can copy it and pass them out....

Does this mean you have a copy of the video already? Let me know when I need to head out there :D

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler


Does this mean you have a copy of the video already? Let me know when I need to head out there :D

well, the copy I have is clear, but jumpy in places....they used an old tape..... :barf:

I gave them 3 new tapes to use...should have them tonight:D :D :D

Looking at the tape I have, it's hard to tell you guys from the ARCA guys.....when they ran it......only thing is, your Group had more Stickers...LOL "Kongs"

:beer: VIDEO PARTY AT MARKS HOUSE!!!!!!!! :beer:
I hope its not 24 hours long..............:D

Originally posted by zags
:beer: VIDIO PARTY AT MARKS HOUSE!!!!!!!! :beer:
I hope its not 24 hours long..............:D

it's on a 2 hour tape...so it's 2 hours of Pure Terror!!! not a dull moment..and it has you giving the camera the :flipoff2:( that is so typical of this site), at that huge waterfall.... :D

if someone added some funky rock to it....:rasta: you could make some :beer: money.....LOL

So, when's the party?:beer:

When is a good time for everyone. Lets Party:p

I would be interested in getting my hands of a copy. Basically I would be interested in getting copies of vids of some of the stuff you guys are doing over there. Down under rockcrawling is few and far between so the chance to actually watch some footage of it would be great. i would organise shipping and any other costs if you are interested

Originally posted by grimbo
I would be interested in getting my hands of a copy. Basically I would be interested in getting copies of vids of some of the stuff you guys are doing over there. Down under rockcrawling is few and far between so the chance to actually watch some footage of it would be great. i would organise shipping and any other costs if you are interested

Grimbo, drop me a line and I'll see what I can do.

Originally posted by kongs4x4
When is a good time for everyone. Lets Party:p

Friday night on Memorial day weekend? I'll be wheeling the rest of the weekend :D

Originally posted by grimbo
I would be interested in getting my hands of a copy. Basically I would be interested in getting copies of vids of some of the stuff you guys are doing over there. Down under rockcrawling is few and far between so the chance to actually watch some footage of it would be great. i would organise shipping and any other costs if you are interested

just remember we need PAL not Beta

I think you mean PAL not NTSC...and I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. I am sure you have the technnology to get it converted there. Just a thought.

Memorial weekend Friday sounds good. It's close to my Bday too.;)

something is still not right...... :rasta:
24 hours on the trail.... and to get out it was continous wheeling ???
I can't help but argue that...... but then again I ain't been there.
Last month we ran wrecking ball in 3 hours and that was with 3 rest breaks of 15 minutes ( at least ) each.
oh well, to each his own..... I sure looking forward to be able to run with you guys when we get the chance..... :)


P/S........ I sure would like a copy of that tape for our viewing pleasure..... :cool: :usa:

A 3d topo of the trail. The trail starts from the far side of the mountain. The exit road is approximately a 1300 foot drop.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/5-02asylum/asylum3d.jpg

I'd be curious how long it took the first crew to run Wrecking Ball? Running a trail that has seen maybe a half a dozen rigs is way different than following a bunch of guys doing a high traffic trail for the nth time. We were only a few hours off the pace of some of the other groups that went thru, and most of them drove their RRCA competition rigs or had buggies with 40+" tires. I am more than happy with our performance. Definately to each his own, I much prefer running a new or freshly opened trail and having to figure out the lines vs running the high traffic stuff.

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler
I'd be curious how long it took the first crew to run Wrecking Ball? Running a trail that has seen maybe a half a dozen rigs is way different than following a bunch of guys doing a high traffic trail for the nth time. We were only a few hours off the pace of some of the other groups that went thru, and most of them drove their RRCA competition rigs or had buggies with 40+" tires. I am more than happy with our performance. Definately to each his own, I much prefer running a new or freshly opened trail and having to figure out the lines vs running the high traffic stuff.

it's a mean trail....Tracy Jordan and crew didn't make it the first time they tried it....they made it up the huge waterfall, and ran into trouble too....

they had to share gas to come back out the way they went in....man that had to suck!

from watching both groups (yours and the ARCA guys) it is my opinion....you guys would have made better time, with the same equipment they had i.e. rear wheel steering and hydrolic lifts....and start off doing the easiest lines...I think in hind sight you will agree.....the trail is hard enough, without wasting time playing around on harder lines :nuke:

one other thing....it was about 40 degrees cooler when they ran it....so guys could do more without dieing from the heat....

there is no doubt you guys RULE!!! :beer: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

There were a few places that everybody had to winch, some breakage, then the huge falls, then the super loose hill climb with a 5000rpm assault, had to tow a rig up that, then the exit road that consisted of many spots where you would roll to death if we didn't have the strap with 5 guys holding on. That all adds up to 24 hours of wheeling. If you think you can do it faster come on out and show us. Even if you do all the hard lines on Wrecking Ball it still isn't as tough. Remember this trail was opened by Tracy Jordan. He runs 44" tires, rear steer, and forced articulation. Bottom line is this trail is one bad mofo. So TinBenders, pack your bags, load the trailers, and get some vacation time and I'll be glad to take you to the trail. Until then :flipoff2:

Originally posted by tail_lite
[B I can't help but argue that...... but then again I ain't been there.
Last month we ran wrecking ball in 3 hours and that was with 3 rest breaks of 15 minutes [/B]

I understand where you are coming from, I had the same atitude going into the Asylum run. Asylum's ledges and rocks are much bigger, If you aren't fighting with getting high centered on a ledge, you are picking your way through boulder fields with seemingly custom made diff hangers. You can't just get in and drive his trail, you are working your butt off dragging everyone over each of at least a dozon obstacles of RCCA cometition quality.
We too have run wrecking ball in less than three hours. But with Asylum, I will take more time to run it next time. We exhausted ourselves by the time we neared the end,and it took alot of the fun out of the last few obstacles.

Check out Chris's trail report for further info. http://www.azrockcrawler.com

Originally posted by zags


I understand where you are coming from, I had the same atitude going into the Asylum run. Asylum's ledges and rocks are much bigger, If you aren't fighting with getting high centered on a ledge, you are picking your way through boulder fields with seemingly custom made diff hangers. You can't just get in and drive his trail, you are working your butt off dragging everyone over each of at least a dozon obstacles of RCCA cometition quality.
We too have run wrecking ball in less than three hours. But with Asylum, I will take more time to run it next time. We exhausted ourselves by the time we neared the end,and it took alot of the fun out of the last few obstacles.

Check out Chris's trail report for further info. http://www.azrockcrawler.com

I don't know how you guys kept from killing each other by the time sunset...

I think you had the funniest line when you said "anyone want to spot me..I just fired my spotter"....I knew then guys had enough "fun"

the ARCA guys had their own spotters and pit crew....
you guys had friends and wanna-be's (me):rasta:

I would love to get my hands on a copy of this vid, where do I send $$ ?? :D

Originally posted by dangerber
I would love to get my hands on a copy of this vid, where do I send $$ ?? :D

email me offlist

not responsible for heart attacks:nuke: due to the viewing of this Video....LOL

:D :D :D

excuse me i havent had internet acess, since im so smalltime, i ran that trail by myself, sprung under, no rearsteer no hydros, 39.5s, no spotter, no arca pitcrew, in 3 hours start to finish, no breaks, no rolls, no trouble, and NO rockstacking, so bring it on, i now have a new trail (BOOMTOWN), if asylum took you 24 hours to acomplsish....... and you plan on running BOOMTOWN , you better just go ahead and post residence there....:D

Dope pix.:cool:

Wish I were there.

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler
excuse me i havent had internet acess, since im so smalltime, i ran that trail by myself, sprung under, no rearsteer no hydros, 39.5s, no spotter, no arca pitcrew, in 3 hours start to finish, no breaks, no rolls, no trouble, and NO rockstacking, so bring it on, i now have a new trail (BOOMTOWN), if asylum took you 24 hours to acomplsish....... and you plan on running BOOMTOWN , you better just go ahead and post residence there....:D


I bet you did'nt have to use a winch either huh?:rolleyes:

WOW, sweet looking trail. If I had rock up here in Canada like that I would need a lot of sick days.

Newbie question but is most of the terrain down there like that(as in big car size rock and canyons?)

Most of those pics show trail that is abit to bold for my pants. Someday I will be able to take the training wheels off my 410.

walking it is fun :rolleyes:

walking it:confused:
the only thing that walked it was his cruiser;)

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler
excuse me i havent had internet acess, since im so smalltime, i ran that trail by myself, sprung under, no rearsteer no hydros, 39.5s, no spotter, no arca pitcrew, in 3 hours start to finish, no breaks, no rolls, no trouble, and NO rockstacking, so bring it on, i now have a new trail (BOOMTOWN), if asylum took you 24 hours to acomplsish....... and you plan on running BOOMTOWN , you better just go ahead and post residence there....:D

Tracy, I have seen you drive and you are in a completely different class than us. If you don't mind hanging with some little fish, we are going to try and complete a new trail this weekend (Nov 2), I know you would have fun. Drop me a PM if your interested. I'd love to try Boomtown, this time everyone in the group will have spares or they get left with the tow rigs....

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler
excuse me i havent had internet acess, since im so smalltime, i ran that trail by myself, sprung under, no rearsteer no hydros, 39.5s, no spotter, no arca pitcrew, in 3 hours start to finish, no breaks, no rolls, no trouble, and NO rockstacking, so bring it on, i now have a new trail (BOOMTOWN), if asylum took you 24 hours to acomplsish....... and you plan on running BOOMTOWN , you better just go ahead and post residence there....:D

To make a long story short, we took some unprepared "guests"
and ended up dragging a busted rig most of the way. Even while towing a busted rig, we were to the top of the waterfall in about 6 hrs. with a group of 7 or 8 rigs. To the best of my knowlage, we NEVER leave a stacked rock behind(my pet peeve)The exit road is a story into itself..........
is the cruza still together? I like the new rig.
Boomtown sounds like my kinda trail. Tell me when and where, and I will bring it awwn.
C'mon out next weekend with us. I think you'll find that we can Get it.....(or you will at least find another trail up to your sandards.)

rockracer, I didn't see you at the hammers, couldn't make it?

no i ended up having to work on sat, i tried calling your cell, no answer i figured it wasnt working out there, sorry about that....maybe next time, c my post in gen4x4 on the asylum thread for more info:D

thread needed a bump!

Kick ass wheeling!

Yogi

awesome stuff

great pics. :)

Thats some of the best stuff I think ive seen, very nice. that waterfall gives me the heebie jeebies, did you wheel up it with no winch??

Originally posted by marcutah
Thats some of the best stuff I think ive seen, very nice. that waterfall gives me the heebie jeebies, did you wheel up it with no winch??

Uh, 50 ft vertical, think about it for a second :confused:

i think its 65 we should msure it next time:p