: After 15 years, trying to get my 88.5 on the road again


aallison28
01-01-2007, 03:09 PM
Back in the day my Sammy was the bomb!! SOA lift, 4" springs, 33" super swampers, 4.56 gears, locker in the rear, built engine, etc, etc, I loved my Zuki!!

Then it happend..........

Just before I met my wife I had an little engine fire (fall of 1991). Delorotto side drafts rubbed a little hole in the gas line and soaked the air cleaners. When I got off the gas, with a high lift cam, and had a little backfire up into the intake....."fire, this shits on fire!!!".

No real damage, melted the venturies, melted some wires beside the carbs on the fender, a few other little things but more than a starving college student could handle.

Anyway, I've tried to get it running twice before. Each time I get flustrated. Took the head off and had a valve job done. Ordered new ventureis, patched the wires, did everything I could think of to get it started. Never could get it to even hit.

A year ago or so I read on the internet the Samurai Shop Manual from Suzuki has a misprint and if you follow the instructions, the distributor gets set 180 degrees from where it needs to be. Anyone heard of this?

I also found Delorotto is now out of business. The rubber seals between the carbs and the intake are dryrotted. Anyone know where I can find delorotto parts?

I also took off my crankshaft pully years ago. Now I can't find the bolts. Nor could I figure out what size bolts I should use. Any one have a good idea what size bolts hold the crankshaft pully to the crankshaft?

This is enough to get me started. I'll be bugging you all again. Thanks........

Hvy_Chevy
01-01-2007, 03:12 PM
when my '87 was stock, the distributor was 180* off
still ran and idled - just lacking 40 of the 45 rw-hp.

martyman
01-01-2007, 04:53 PM
check out http://www.thesamba.com/vw/ get your carb parts there

alaskan goodoleboy
01-01-2007, 04:59 PM
http://www.carburetion.com/dellorto.asp might be what your lookin for not sure just came across this on the internet

jones
01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
Man, you have to get that beast fired up. 15 years is way too long for your poor Suzuki to sit. :D

I'll try to help.

I've never heard of this misprint. It's not hard to time the engine though. I never use a book to do it initially.

Use a ratchet and socket to turn over the engine by hand while you have the number one spark plug out (closest to front). Hold your finger over the spark plug hole while you're spinning the engine with the ratchet until you feel it blowing air. When it's blowing air it's on the compression stroke so you line up the timing mark on the crank with the zero on the front cover. When that's lined up, your rotor has to be pointing to the number one plug wire in the distributor cap. If that checks out and your plug wires match the firing order you can be sure that the engine is timed straight up and it's good enough to fire. That's assuming you've checked for spark at the plug and that's a go.

If it's not firing at this point, you have to look at the fuel side. I don't know anything about your carbs, but I'd be tempted to throw a stock set-up on there to make sure it works.

The small bolts that hold the pulley can be replaced by any bolt you can turn with a 10mm provided they're not too long.

Good luck.:D

Sooty Zooki
01-02-2007, 08:30 AM
Its not uncommon to get the timing 180 deg out after a top end rebuild. I think it happened to me - check the rotor in the distributor cap is pointing the right way when no.1 piston is at TDC. I was lucky and had a second zook to compare it to but I know other have been frustrated by this.

Slowzuki
01-02-2007, 10:26 AM
The Haynes manual contained the misprint. Factory was accurate afaik.

billjohn
01-02-2007, 01:20 PM
I also took off my crankshaft pully years ago. Now I can't find the bolts. Nor could I figure out what size bolts I should use. Any one have a good idea what size bolts hold the crankshaft pully to the crankshaft?

Pull one of the bolts that hold the timing belt cover in place. That is the size and thread pitch you need.

punkskalar
01-02-2007, 01:21 PM
Seems to be common... I tried for days to get mine to run after a new engine was dropped in... Finally used my common sense and quit readin the Haynes and turned the distributor 180 degrees and she fired right up...

BOFF
01-02-2007, 07:22 PM
The Haynes manual contained the misprint. Factory was accurate afaik.
Humm, I've got a Haynes. Just checked the valves, and replaced the distributor o ring, but it fired right up. What is the misprint?

sj-x
01-03-2007, 07:40 PM
it's on the timing belt end of things, they say to have the dots opposing one another.