Figured I'd post this here since the local boards don't see many big builds. This is redneck and budget at it's best, and I welcome all input good or bad, so in other words, FLAME AWAY:flipoff2:


This is phase 2.

Starting on December of 2005, I Built an S-10 on Fullsize diffs, Sbc, TBI, with Dual Trannies(700r4/sm465) and an np205. D44HD Front, 14ff rear, with 37" MTR's

Wheeled it a couple times.

Had major issues with it stripping the bolts out of the auto and pissing ATF everywhere.

Pulled it off the road for a couple changes and it escalated from there.


The new truck will consist of (or in other words, the major changes)-

1. Dodge kingpin dually Dana 60
2. sm465/sm465 dual trannies
3. Recentered H1 beadlocks, with 49" Iroks
4. 57" Chevy rears in the front 8" shackles, 63" Chevy rears in the back with an 8" shackle and 32" long buggy leaves.
5. Dovenosed 20"
6. Dovetailed 20"
7. Full skidplate
8. Full exo/internal cage.
9. 1 piece tilt front end
10. 1 piece tilt rear end
11. No dash, interior panels, or anything that doesn't help it move.
12. OBA, with tanks, and OBW

and the big one.....

13. No more unexpected failures and parts breakage, that can't be fixed on the trail

This is reight after the dove-nose, it's all one piece now, no rad to interfere
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/dovenosed2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/dovenosed1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/hoodup2.jpg
This is the rear after the dovetail, it's hinged at the rear bumper to allow access to the tank, rad, toolbox, etc.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/dovetailed2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/dovetailed1.jpg
And how they look open.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/frontandrearopen.jpg
Dual 465's going back in again.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/dual465s.jpg
And mocking the rear rad up
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearrad1.jpg
I'm going to cap the back of the cab off, and shorten my top like this
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/topmockup.jpg
And the battery tray I built to relocate the batteries.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/batterytray.jpg

This is the rim/rubber combo goingon it,
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/paintedandmounted.jpg
I've only got the one tire mounted and painted, so I through it on and photochopped the other side. Just to get some perspective. it's getting lowered 4-6", and I'm pushing the front axle forward about 5"
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/irokphotochop.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/irokphotochop2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/irokphoto2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/irokphoto1.jpg

very slick very slick

intersting. why dual 465's?

Cause its 400ish:1 crawl ratio and he probably had 2 sm465's kicking around. :smokin:

intersting. why dual 465's?


I wanted something cheap, strong and different.

Regearing diffs is pricey, and no selectability
doublers give one or two extra options, but the price range was in the $1000 mark.
So i started looking into dual trannies.
The original setup ran a 700r4 in front of a 465, and worked awesome. All designed by myself, and the input was TIG welded by a buddy of mine. However, it had issues with it tourquing over and backing the bolts out of the t-case adapter of the automatic. Biggest issue was that when you hit the brakes, the redution would twist stock trans mounts in half, and break motor mounts at idle. So the concept was strong, but i missed having a manual and needed a clutch to interrupt the torque multiplication.

The original setup (auto/manual) cost me around $400 and took about 6 weeks planning, and a week to build

This setup cost me $120 (not including the clutch) I got the465's for free, and made the adapter rmyself. 120 to have a new input welded, and I'm golden
2nd trans adds 18" to the length of the drivetrain, but I have More gearing options than I'll ever use, 407:1 in reverse/reverse, 35 spline front output/input, and other than the shaft it's all off the shelf parts.

That answer it?:smokin:

I'm working on an actual write-up of both setups, as I've hada few emails regarding them, and they'll be posted up likely right after I have a chance to test this one a little.:D

Why do you not think you will have the same problems with a even lower gearing?I see the 2nd tranny getting blown.I could be wrong.

The major damage was occuring while the truck was in gear, and I had to hit the brakes. When the motor torqued over, ultimately there are only 4 bolts threaded into the aluminum tailhousing which hold one tranny to the other.

With the dual manual setup i have 8 bolts threaded into a cast housing, which has to be stronger, and the clutch disengages the motor so it doesn't twist up the drivetrain.

In theory I could have put in a higher stall torque converter, but in the end, my prerference has never been to wheel autos, and I end up with a stronger drivetrain as well.

I've also stiffened everything up to try to fight the torque by making a crossmember for the rear which bolts the back of the t-case, all the way arount the front output shaft cover(on the rear of the case), and also to the PTO cover on the drivers side, and uses leaf spring bushings at the frame mounts, it has a crossmember under the adapter between the trannies which uses a stock auto tranny mount, and the motor is chained down.

Its gonna have barely any tire under it. Unless its all twisted up. Thats a cool tranny setup.

i like it, looks good, meaty

:smokin: sheet metal work man!

that thing is a beast. yeah a write up would be great. i have a buddy wanting the exact same thing in his one ton blazer.

yeah, a good write up would be nice. i would be very interested in a quality setup like this. gearing for chevys is very costly.

A guy at home did the same thing with dual trannys. I dont remember if he used 465s or a t18.

Awesome truck!

Did you find an off-the-shelf part to bolt the two trannies together, or did you have to make something custom?

Everything in the duals is my own handiwork, short of the shaft welding. the goal is to have a one piece shaftmade once it's tested, but I basically mirrored a t-case adapter and spent 10 or 20 hours reproducing it. I pull up the pics so you can see the jist of it as soon as I can.

This is the shaft and the duals adapter, 35 spline beef and a bunch of time with a micrometer. The adapter is multi piece, I had to make each step for the bearing retainer lip out of 1/8" plate, the 5/8" for the main section, 4" 1/2 wall tube for the cross piece and another piece of 58" to mimmick the bellhousing. Then a whole lot of bracing.

The crossmembers shown are basicly what's in there now, the t-case one has been cut down quite a bit to clear exhaust and other stuff, but the end result is still pure beef. It's made of a piece of 5/8" plate, wih a captured tube which holds a leaf spring bushing, and The PTO cover is the same 5/8" with a 7/8" bolt bracing it to the main x-member. The front one was straight across, but had to be clearanced for the driveshaft when I raised the whole drivetrain to get a flat belly.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/newinput1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/newinput2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/newinput3.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/dualsadapter1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/dualsadapter2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/dualsadapter3.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/Newt-casex-member5.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/Newt-casex-member6.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/frontx-member.jpg

This is what it looks like trimmed
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/t-casexmembertrimmed.jpg

And one of my favorite parts, After I shaved the 14 bolt, it would peel the cover open like a tin can, and the ring gear started to groove out the cover, so I waned something original to protect it.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/spiderdiffcover1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/spiderdiffcover2.jpg

And a history pic, (what I started with)

This is the last time it was out, taking some poser pics. on 37"MTR's, and still street driven.
It ramped 1400+ on a 20* ramp and an easy 1000+ on a 30* Not bad for a leaf spring truck.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/Sept17-1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/Sept17.jpg

Looks badass! How well did it go down steep hills with the 3/4 eliptic rear suspension? Or do you use a rear winch to suck the rear down?

There's a chain from the truss to the shock hoop that limits droop at the pumpkin to about 6". Nothing I've been on yet is a long steep decent, b ut i've had it steep enough to bury the front bumper into the ground, and i never felt like it would go over, I may just be lucky though

I have a 2000lb ATV winch that I'm planning to throw in the back, but haven't bothered yet. i'm considering getting a high angle rear shaft, Then the chain would only prevent unloading, where as right now it is primarily there to save the rear shaft. The winch right now runs the risk of having it missadjusted, and possibly binding and breaking the rear joints

Looks like I have a few weeks off, so this should be rolling again quick. Picking up my last 3 tires this weekend hopefully, and should be sitting at ride height after the weekend. Pricing out hydro assist rams right now as well, has to be on the cheap, and I don't want to modify a farm ram, Should be ordering something in the next little while.

Also getting ready to order tube, and get the cage done so I can finalize the bodywork.

Hopefully have some good pics soon.

Keep up the good work spidr :D
and on your rear suspension did you keep the stock front hanger?

Yup.

i just have to say. thats awsome

Picture speaks for itself.
I need to go grind and paint my rims.:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/tiresintheDD.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/5irocs.jpg

Pics say enough.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/homeagain1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/homeagain2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/homeagain3.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/homeagain4.jpg

Finally got around to paying for a red star.............


Anyways..........Picked up the pipe for plumbing the raaad, gonna go pick up a Taauras fan for it tomorrow. Gonna use sched40 pvc for now, cause it's next to free, and likely upgrade to copper after I test everything and make sure where I route it all will work. Want to get it plumbed, so I can test drive this a little more, I've only got about 5 minutes run time right now, before the temp hits as much as is comfortable/

Awesome build. I have seen dual 465's tried before, and while they gave great torque multiplication, the internediate shaft would not hold up. Even when he went with a cryo-treated unit, it continued to break.

Each setup is undoubted different, and I really like the idea of this two transmission setup. I hope you can work the bugs out.

Most of the intermediate shaft designs I've seen involve a female/femle coupler similar to a 10 apline 205 shaft. Many guys recomended a 10 spline coupler with a clutch center welded in and i feelthat won't hold up.

The first time I did this with the auto/manual setup I tested by doing burnouts with welded rear and 37's, on dry pavement, and went nothing went wrong, I did 4000rpm neutral drops 1/2 dozen times and it held up so I went wheeling. As I said before, the only issues I had with that setup was that the automatics aluminun casing wouldn't handle the abuse from the extra torque.

I beat on my stuff hard, so if it breaks I'll find out, and if it works, then I'll update everyone as well

Witch rims did you go with?

H1 recentered to 4" with rock rings

Pulling the body, caging it buggy style, and reskinning it with factory metal.....want to lower the roof line 8" or so, and do the cage proper like. Photochop ideas are here - http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548011
Gimme some insite, I'm doing it one way or another, but am willing to listen to any input.

Dude ur sick for building this and man its a sick ride. Love the 1/4 Eliptic rear, one of my fav. suspension designs.

407:1 in reverse/reverse

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't reverse/reverse result in forward travel?

Sweet rig BTW. :smokin:

Yup.........with a 407:1 reduction.:cool2:

I'm a one man wrecking crew...:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Now to a fresh start on the cage.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/wreckingcrew1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/wreckingcrew2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/wreckingcrew3.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/wreckingcrew4.jpg

Just for shits and giggles I'll give ya'll a preview.......This is the basic concept....

More triangulation, blah,blah,blah...........

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/wreckingcrew3cagecopy.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/wreckingcrew1cagecopy.jpg

Started in today.........


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/cage1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/cage2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/cage3.jpg

Can already tell this is going to turn out better...

But the date on your camera is wrong

I been busy. 80' down......120' to go.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending8.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending9.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending7.jpg

Tube work should be done when my link ends get in my hands, Hoping to be wheelable a month from now.

Are you gonna skin it ? Or what? It sure looks different than a S10 that's for sure.

Very interesting

I really like how your cage looks like its gonna give you a much lower seat height then the body did

Lookin good man, That cage design is somethin different, but I like it, I like how you have alot of bends and such, keep us posted on progress. Are you gonna buggy the back half? or are you going to leave the stock frame back there? :smokin:

Are you gonna skin it ? Or what? It sure looks different than a S10 that's for sure.

S10 skins, trying to use everything I can from the truck. Hood forward and taillights as well. It's heading a bit different direction than I originally planned, but I like how it looks so I'm going with it

Lookin good man, That cage design is somethin different, but I like it, I like how you have alot of bends and such, keep us posted on progress. Are you gonna buggy the back half? or are you going to leave the stock frame back there? :smokin:



Links are allready in the works.,. Double triangulated 4 link rear, 3 link front. Frame is getting cut off level with the t-case, that's where it's not boxed anymore

I'm diggin this build........:smokin:
Keep the pics coming.

I'm thinking I'm going overbored....:smokin:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending10.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending11.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending12.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending13.jpg

nice!

i like... definitely keep the pic.s comin

Couple daylight pics for ya'll......the rear is done except for an X behind the seats, and a couple small braces you'll never see when assembled.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending16.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending15.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending14.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending17.jpg

On to the front next.

Mocked up the hood tonight to get an idea of what I want, and got some of the front bars in, need to match the pass. side to the drivers side, and brace the hell out of it.
The winch is getting shoved back another 6-8", when the spring hanger gets cut off.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending18.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending19.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending20.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending21.jpg

that cage is fuckin wicked... good work man!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

sweet rig man

That thing looks pathetic.













:eek: :beer:

Fawkin' Killer :eek: :cool2:

Got both sides to match finaly, huge pain in the ass. All tacked togeter, now save for a bch of small braces, it just needs welding and paint. Got the color picked out so hopefully this weekend.


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending22.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending23.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending24.jpg

i think it need more triangulation. looks to be an awesome build. good job:smokin: :beer:

Ryan that thing is savage :evil: keep it up...

wow...

That rig got CRAZY, quick!

wow...

That rig got CRAZY, quick!

I hate dragging my ass on stuff.
Once I decide somethings getting done, it's getting done RIGHT NOW. Makes the builds go quick, but means a little more fine tuning down the road.
Hopefully since I'm not really changing out drivetrain this time, it should be even less tuning and more wheeling.

Apparently the back end of my truck fell off tonight.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/bending27.jpg

Man, that thing is awesome! I love it!

Mocked up the rear, It's at bumpstop height right now, and will have 4" or so of up travel when it's done.
The front unloaded when I dropped the back, so it needs to go done approx 18"
For comparison, I'm 6'3", and t's still got to go down some(when I fix the front)
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http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/4link1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/4link2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/4link3.jpg

Saluting......:flipoff2: :flipoff2:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/piratesalute.jpg

what are you using for tubing bender? just a cheappy?

Cheap cheap and borrowed.....:grinpimp:

Got the link tabs "mocked".....
Lots of gussets to go, And I need to make the permanant links, but there they are.
The 1x1 is ONLY there to temporarily hold the lower tabs till I build the crossmember.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/4link5.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/4link4.jpg

do you shift both trannies seperatly or together

I can shift both on the fly, but for the most part the front 4 speed gets used as the crawl box, and I drive on the rear.

Holy chit that cage is awsome. Are you going to keep using bushings or change to heims on the link ends?

I want Evos, but I may end up putting Johnny joints in for now.
And the links in there Are only for mockup.......

I want Evos, but I may end up putting Johnny joints in for now.
And the links in there Are only for mockup.......

10-4

What are your antidive, roll center and roll axis numbers?

You mean Anitsquat?

As I sit there,

Antisquat is variable between 47% and 168%

If someone wants to decipher the rest of my numbers, i'm more than willing to post all the dimensions and such, and am open to any criticism you may have:D

You mean Anitsquat?

As I sit there,

Antisquat is variable between 47% and 168%

If someone wants to decipher the rest of my numbers, i'm more than willing to post all the dimensions and such, and am open to any criticism you may have:D

Yah. Ment A/S.

Started in on the roof tonight, the center and rear narrow sections, as well as the side triangles visible will be checkerplate.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/cobwebs1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/cobwebs2.jpg

Deaummmn. That roof is CRAZYYY. Awsome.

I love that thing :D I wanna build something like that someday!

Little more progress on the roof........This crap takes forever to cut....

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/roof.jpg

That thang is crazy man. You going red and blue? Spiderman look? Make the rear section black... :grinpimp:

Blue tube, Flat black sheetmetal, and red accents.
The spider in the back though will have a third brake light in the shape of the mark on a black widow, after I put the sheet in for the "body" of it.

That cage is crazy good. Love it when people do the little things that make s**t look that much sweeter, ie. the rebar web.

How did you bend that rebar, just a torch or what?

Why do you have to create something to make me want to try and "out-do" it one day???

Leave my conscience alone. I have a life to live you know...

How did you bend that rebar, just a torch or what?

Jammed it into an old body mount and pushed. Not worth wasting time with fancy tools:laughing:

That cage is crazy good. Love it when people do the little things that make s**t look that much sweeter, ie. the rebar web.


I'm with stupid ^ :grinpimp:

It's all in the details. That's why bgreen's fab work is so sick, and Triple X Traction. A bunch of things added in just to make it more complex. But not too much...

truggy is coming out badass keep the pics coming:beer:

Damn Rain......
Every time I turn on the welder it starts to rain....
The rear is together except for a couple of welds, and a few more gussets, in the next couple days it will be linked minus springs.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks2.jpg

The crossmember had to get a little more creative on the passenger side, the clearance from the t-case is within 3/4" on both tubes.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks3.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks4.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks5.jpg

Needs a couple more gussets, and the driveshaft hoop installed which will brace up and to the rest of the cage, then paint.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks6.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks7.jpg

And my *hopefully* temporary links.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks.jpg

"temporary"...? when do the johnny's show up ryan?

Hopefully ASAP.........Long story. Jist of it is, I'm trading for parts, and waiting on someone else...........

Got a little bit done, 3 of 4 rear links are in, the passenger upper gets welded tomorrow, then it can go in and I can get the braces and such in and paint. This is on the "bumpstops" but you get the idea. I'll be cutting up the front in a day or two.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks8.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks9.jpg

The links sit way high, should be no issues with rocks, even if i step down a size in tires in the future.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/rearlinks10.jpg

And I started painting the cage, looks much better with some color

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/paint1.jpg

6'1" to the roof
22" to a smooth belly
119" wheelbase.
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Got the drivers side t-case mount made, have the passenger side made this afternoon, then I can start on the links for the front.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/ptomount2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/ptomount1.jpg

Got my fuel cell today..........something like 40gallons, custom aluminum, tig welded.............It's beautiful.
Had to modify the rear cage tubes to clear, should be in tomorrow.



http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fueltank1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fueltank2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fueltank3.jpg

WOW that is a lot of gas

you planing a big road trip:D
I think my 22 gal is to big

cut it in half and make a cool hydro tank out of half

The tank I had in before was about 30 gallons, and on a long day i could burnt through half a tank. On a long weekend, if I camp on the trail, it can burn through a lot of fuel.
I may have gone smaller if i was having it made, but I got it in a trade, and saved huge coin, So I'm going to run it like this.

Got the twin sticks in, things will pickup again here quickly, I had to spend a couple days gathering parts:D

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/twinstick.jpg

Got the twin sticks in, things will pickup again here quickly, I had to spend a couple days gathering parts:D

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/twinstick.jpg

That's sick. are those what I think they are? "And the winner for best use of Harbor freight 1/2' breaker bars is...."

Mastercraft from Canadian Tire:flipoff2:


They've been cut off of 3 or 4 shifter versions and reused.

Sweet, permission to steal that idea???

Love it bro...more pics! get this thing going!!

I had just dragging my heels till the pass mount was done on the t-case, now I can get started on the links for the front.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/passmount2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/passmount1.jpg

that cage does look sweet but I would be a little worried about that reed bar snapping off in a hard roll and doing some damage to those people in the rig

that cage does look sweet but I would be a little worried about that reed bar snapping off in a hard roll and doing some damage to those people in the rig

I've jumped on them, and hit them with a hammer, I realize that they may have that issue, But I like them, so before I finish everything, I'm gonna go at them with a sledgehammer. If they stay intact, they're staying on the truck.

Fawkin stress........
Went out to relieve some and I guess I got carried away.:D

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/frontgone1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/frontgone2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/frontgone3.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/frontgone4.jpg

Now at least I have room to run the links where I want......

Holy going wild with the torch Batman!!!! :D Looks sweet. you didn't need anything looking stock left anyway.

Wheel

No torch..........Not here anways.

It'll have 3.5' of stock rails, and I have something special for the bodywork.

dude did you ever get the double tranny pics. if not take some good close up for me im really interested in doin that

dude did you ever get the double tranny pics. if not take some good close up for me im really interested in doin that

I'll get it all together tomorrow night for ya.

Got the front truss mocked up, Upper link tab in, has 3 points of adjusteability. Needs to be finish welded, then I can do the lowers and move to the frame.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss1.jpg

Got started on the rear half of the truss tonight. I'll put the link tabs on tomorrow after it's welded.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss2.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss3.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss4.jpg

Wow, this is really coming together nicely. Cant wait to see it in action!

Sooo., Not quite done yet, Have to finish welding the skid, and add one more peice along the pass side.
The tabs are tacked in for the lower links, just need a few gussets to beef them up too.

The front diff cover I'm especially proud of, I have a set of tabs to insert to the middle of the tubes, to make them bolt together(so that it's removeable), and the tab out the top will have 2 more bolts in it to tie the cover into the truss.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss5.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss6.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss7.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss8.jpg

I'm still sorting through a ton of pictures to find the good ones of the trannies, I'll post up ASAP

Dude any updates!!

This is how the diff cover gets removable, tacked in for now, And I added a small gusset to the top tab that will get drilled for bolts to brace the cover to the truss.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss9.jpg

This just gets better and better :smokin:

dude did you ever get the double tranny pics. if not take some good close up for me im really interested in doin that

Try this........Post on that thread if you want or need anyting else.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=578062

Got a plasma on loan, so I'm trying to hammer out all the bracketry I can while it's here.


Pass side lower link tab
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss11.jpg

Drivers side lower
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss12.jpg

Gusseted the upper and added the new spider.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/fronttruss10.jpg

And this will be a 3rd brake light.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/flipoff2.jpg

This is, by far, one of the most imaginative and totally bad assed threads since Logjam grant was posting regularly.

Thansk man

sweet build lets get some more updates!

wow man i wish i had that much time and money

wow man i wish i had that much time and money

Don't let the tires fool you.
In total at the moment I have around $8000cdn. into it. $5500 of that is wheels and tires.
I'm one of the cheapest son-ofa-guns you'd ever meet. I'll spend hours building something myself cause it's free(that and because I take pride in building everything myself)

Time on the other hand....................

your build is fucking amazing. Damn. I'm sure I missed it but what are you using to weld with and how much time have you invested so far. Again totally bad ass and keep up the sweet work.

Welding with a 220v stick.
As for time.........I honestly couldn't guess.
I've spent at least a dozen weekends in the shop from Friday afternoon, straight through to Sunday night.
It's likely 1000's of hours counting research, trial and error, and actual building.
For example, there's over 20 hours of welding on the front diff SO FAR, and it's only about 2/3 done.
I quit keeping track a Long time ago.

dude i cant wait 2 c this shit in action

got any updates ?? this thing is just SICk !

Sidetracked momentarily, have a CJ from a paying customer in my yard for an axle swap/ springover and armour.

Got the front end all painted though....I like i much better now.
Also put in a 1" wide fill plug in the cover since this pic and a small flush mount drain plug on the bottom of the cover.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/paintedaxle.jpg

ooooohhh.... Update's nice.

Progress has been stupid slow, I have another project in the driveway that I'm building for someone else, but I made a phone call today and finally placed an order for some parts I needed:D

Progress will pick up again in about 2 weeks when get the package in.

Sidetracked momentarily, have a CJ from a paying customer in my yard for an axle swap/ springover and armour.

Got the front end all painted though....I like i much better now.
Also put in a 1" wide fill plug in the cover since this pic and a small flush mount drain plug on the bottom of the cover.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/paintedaxle.jpg

Your ingenuity and i can build it attitude are next to none:beer:. This build is awesome. Take a little time and build some safe/tall jack stands. I lost an uncle when i was young because a block like your using shattered and the vehicle fell on him. Take care dude we need minds like yours in this sport.

Done yet?

Heep that I'm building will be gone this weekend, and then I can get the brackets finished for mine.

Heims had a 2 week lead time, when they get here it's on.

Nice build. Keep up the good work.

The fuzzy dice really pulls it all together. But for real, that is sweet, you have way more talent then me.
-Steve

The fuzzy dice really pulls it all together. But for real, that is sweet, you have way more talent then me.
-Steve


One of my boys(he was 4 at the time) bought me those with some money he'd been saving......Payed mostly in pennies. They have to stay,.:D
And thanks.

So.........Got the tow rig tonight..
As much as can't stand Ford's, it's a diesel 4x4 with a D70(smooth bottom) rear, and the price was right;)
It's getting a paint job, a proper tube deck, goose neck and receiver hitches and bumpers.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/towrig.jpg
Also got a couple new parts, New seats(getting recovered)
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/newseat.jpg
And a sweet steering wheel disonnect.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/wheeldisconnect.jpg

Tow Rig 2x4 or 4x4?

i would say that ford looks like a 4x4

6.9 diesel, auto trans, 4x4.
Got $25 into it total.

wow,

great build! i LOVE the top of the cage!!!

Got 2 packages today:D

One had 50lbs of heims in it..............The other was 9bs11oz.

Back to work asap now.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/evosandjade.jpg

Congrats on the big delivery!!!!!!!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/evosandjade.jpg

You might be hardcore if you post a picture of your brand new kid with your heim joints. Awsome.

Congrats.
Kids are the best mod!!!!

Nice, can't wait to see it done. I am curious as to how the axles hold up to the 49's I have been considering 47's but am worried about my axles not be happy about that.

How do you shift gears in the rear tranny? I really have no idea how that works but dual trannies sounds like an awesome idea.

With the old auto/manual setup, you had to stop and shift it like the t-case
With the new man/man setup, you can shift either trans by pushing the clutch. Synchros work in the 2nd trans just as well as the first.



Updates should come soon, After Jade was born, things came to a halt, and then the daily driver took a dump, so I turned my 2wd 2001 Dakota quad cab, into a linked/coiled/exoed family rig.:smokin:

where's the pics of the dakota?

Tires should be on in the next week, I'll post some then.

Any updates?

FUck your truck is UGLY, BUT I DO HAVE TO SAY ""I LOVE IT!!""
:grinpimp:

Updates?!! Im having withdrawles!!!!! :shaking:

Updates?!! Im having withdrawles!!!!! :shaking:

That makes 2 of us.:shaking:
My daily driver got a VI the same time as I was getting ready to start back into it. It absolutely HAS to be done before the new year, so the updates will be coming quick.

Great build. I like the look of it. I can't wait to see some action shots.

Figured I'd post a preview, just to keep everyone happy.
New motor.......New tube work,.......and the rear links are almost reworked.

Heres some Flexy poser pics......And almost no rear steer.......YET.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/linkmockup1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h28/s_p_i_d_r/linkmockup2.jpg

The Spider Lives!!!!

Let's see some pics of the new power plant

cool

Let's see some pics of the new power plant

Not till I wash it....:mad3:

And I'm not telling YOU what it is:flipoff2:

I'm pretty sure the 6.9 on your other sig gave it away.....:p but this does confuse me :shaking:

Simplicity, no wiring, cheap parts, and massive torque.

And it was free:D:D:D

cummins

cummins


Next time.
6.9 IDI. Out of an '81 F250.

Next time.
6.9 IDI. Out of an '81 F250.

:barf:

JB "I banish you from the land"..... Since the heart of this widow is no longer the invincible bowtie please remove this thread from the holy land....:flipoff2:

It still bleeds bowtie.



And Fuggyu.

I'm gonna park on yer purrrrdy hood.

:barf:

JB "I banish you from the land"..... Since the heart of this widow is no longer the invincible bowtie please remove this thread from the holy land....:flipoff2:


I thought about it.........I'll move it to general.....I knida lost the last 24" of S10 anyways..........Just skins on a buggy now:flipoff2:

lol... all still remember it's roots:cookie:

Thanks buddy.........Got 2 sets of skins for it still. It will always have it's roots.

It's here now.......
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=614624