Just wanderin how far you guys have been moving your front hangers forward/how far back you put the shackle flip... and how good the setup works. I bet it flexes pretty good.

i'm lookin to run the 4" ORD shackle flip with 6" shackles to get me about 5 1/2 inches of lift... is this about right :confused: and what do you think'd be a good spring to put up front, I was thinking 4" EZ rides, longer shackles (maybe) and zero rates.

pic.s would be cool to

Im running 63's with a flip, but the flip is just in the stock location the rear hanger is in...being its an 88-98:D . Im going to pull it forward 1.5" sometime soon and use some plated lowering shackles to help the rear work better. The 63's are a 3" lift set from Alcan though, not the stock set.

It does alright now though.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bggrnchevy/kylescreenshot-1.jpg

yeah, now thats some decent flex out of a fullsize...

what springs are you runnin up front?

I would watch the shackle angle when your trying to use shackles to achieve more lift. Only going on that statement after you noticed the flex of bggrnchvy's ride, also your ride will suffer slightly . Also with 6 inch shackles u will only net one more inch of lift. To explain that with each inch of shackle length added you net a half inch of lift. If this is not your daily driver i would look into a 52 inch spring swap for the front. Run a search for more info, but you are said to achieve 4-5 inches of lift from that swap and 7.25 shackles. But you will need crossover steering (full hydro which is not street legal), longer shocks, and shock towers to take full advantage of the droop capabilities of the said springs. All can be searched to provide pretty much all the info you will need in completing that swap.

I moved my rear axle foward when I put my 63" in. Wheelbase is now 115". I spent alot of time when placing my rear hangers to make sure I got my stock length hangers on a good angle to maximize flex. It was time well spent. I believe it flexes very well.

I Used ORD shackle flip and DIY 7" long shackles. I moved the rear hanger back. I didnt touch the front hangers
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/muddermilitia/DSCF0283.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/muddermilitia/DSCF0284.jpg
And I flexed it a little. I probably could have gone up more
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/muddermilitia/DSCF0278.jpg

I Used ORD shackle flip and DIY 7" long shackles. I moved the rear hanger back. I didnt touch the front hangers
and I flexed it a little. I probably could have gone up more

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i did the same thing, but i cheaped out on the shackles. i used (i think) 3" lowering shackles from pep boys with the ORD flip. i just backed the ORD hangers to the very end of the frame rails and re-bolted them there. i got about a 45* shackle angle out of it.

Yea I wanted my shackles to be beefy so thats why I got the DIY ones

PM "AZDUDE"...he had a bad ass set up on his 79 GMC

lookin good, muddermilitia how much lift did you get from those 7" shackles?

still don't know what to run in the front though. :confused: it is my DD, but I don't think I can do crossover steering quite yet, but i could in a little while, right now i just gotta get it on the street.

and what's DIY stand for? :confused:

DIY= Do It Yourself. He Didn't use the shackles for lifting purposes, it was just for for getting the correct shackle angle in order to achieve optimum flex.

lookin good, muddermilitia how much lift did you get from those 7" shackles?

still don't know what to run in the front though. :confused: it is my DD, but I don't think I can do crossover steering quite yet, but i could in a little while, right now i just gotta get it on the street.

and what's DIY stand for? :confused: Well I didn't really get any lift from the shackles. I did have a 4" lift, then I removed the blazer body and put on a pickup cab, I think the back went up 1". And now that I have switched springs in the back I think I lost about an inch of lift, so now the truck sits level. And when I said DIY I was talking about the company. The link is in my sig

*noob question*

can I run 37s, w/ an 8 lug d44 front, 52" springs, and no crossover for the time being on my DD? I know you're not "supposed" to, but I don't think I can have that much downtime/funds for it (yet).

These are with lowered 63s and there inboarded directly under the frame. they lasted a long time(for me) like this. Until I went to AirShox

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/PsychoticDeadGuy/6-25%20Wheelin/Wheelin015.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/PsychoticDeadGuy/6-25%20Wheelin/Wheelin016.jpg

The droop from them springs is ridiculous. I'm so ready to get the time to swap springs on my rig.

TCI 3" 64s, ORD 4" flip, 6" shackle, overload removed, no weight on it yet, but i looks like i'll have to move the flip further back.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_1350.jpg

Maybe AZDUDE has more pics

that's a nice clean truck

i'll be pming him now

how are you fullsize guys doing with the shackles dragging? Ive been cosnidering running some 63's in my bronco and was concerned that with the weight of my pig, and dragging the shackles, that they would live very long.

alright i never really got this question answered,

if I don't touch the front hanger, and only move the shackle mount back, will my wheelbase stay about the same? I have a bed and fenders on it, this is a full body rig... I was thinking that i'd have to move the front hangers forward to keep the axle in the middle of the wheel well.

edit- and there will be zero rates on the leafs too, so i can move the axle forward/backward about an inch and a half

no, I gained 5.5" of wheelbase. Just cut the rear of your wheelwell

Dose this count...I decided to inboard mine. It flexs great.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h100/tattoo4me/100_0006.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h100/tattoo4me/100_0196.jpg

Casey

how well are those spring clamps holding up? I was a little worried about mine opening up after a few wheeling trips

Mine are still tight as can be...

Casey

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/PsychoticDeadGuy/6-25%20Wheelin/Wheelin016.jpg

what happened here?
that dosn't look good.

what happened here?
that dosn't look good.

Hmmm, I had an axle wrap bar on there, the welds broke on the axle, not enough pre-heat on the cast and the axle wrapped up and broke the driveshaft!

I broke one of my 52's yeasterday on a run and picked up some 63's today.
Stock ones.
Question? If I used them with the ORD shackle flip I have now will I still net a 4" lift from them?
Just wondering what I might need to do before I do the set up...

as long as you put the hangar in the right place

I am running the ord shackle flip and their replacement rear shackles, that replace the stock ones.
Does anyone know what the correct measurement between the 2 mounts should be?
I know that on the stock set up it was 2" shorter then the springs.
Should the measurement be 61" for the longer springs??

just add the difference betweent the 2 spring lengths.

63-52 = 11 so move the front forward 5.5 inches, and the rear 5.5 inches if you want your axle to stay in the same place with the same shackle angle.

that is, if both springs are centered over the axle, I think they are. 63s will flex more too, so maybe you might want a steeper shackle angle.

that is, if both springs are centered over the axle, I think they are.


57's arn't centered like the 52's are....I would be surprised if the 63's were

57's arn't centered like the 52's are....I would be surprised if the 63's were
oh

well either way, it's not that hard to do the math.

Stock 63's are centered but aftermarket springs usually have a 1" offset so they need to be installed In the correct orientation. The offset is so small sometimes you'll miss it and it will track funny. I was staring at it for like 5 minutes thinking that doesn'tlook right until my tape measure confirmed it.

is everyone using fuel cells in their beds when they're doing this swap?

if so I might not be getting them... dammit. i have dual tanks right now both of which are in the way.

just add the difference betweent the 2 spring lengths.

63-52 = 11 so move the front forward 5.5 inches, and the rear 5.5 inches if you want your axle to stay in the same place with the same shackle angle.

that is, if both springs are centered over the axle, I think they are. 63s will flex more too, so maybe you might want a steeper shackle angle.

Not trying to pull up a post from the dead but am I correct in saying that you can flip the ORD flip around so that it is oriented for the 56" springs, then move it back 7 inches? I have the flip and 52"s but I wanna move my axle back.

you dont flip the ord shackle kit, you just move the flip hanger back and re-drill the holes to fit the longer leaf spring.

does this answer your question

you do flip it...the angle on the bracket is different from the angle when you flip it. fawkin' noob :flipoff2:

my bad
I guess you learn something new everyday:flipoff2:

HOLY CRAP!

someone found the search button.

HOLY CRAP!

someone found the search button.

:laughing:

Thanks I was 95% sure but wanted to be closer to 100. I still thought I might get eaten alive for asking a question even after I searched though.

I'm running 64"s with diy flip. Moved the front hanger 5" forward I think. It ended up being directly underneath the body mount on my '77 (78+ is different i beleive). The shackle flip I did not flip around, and I used the back stock holes as the front holes for the flip. Axle is in stock position as far as I can tell (damn why didnt I measure before :confused: ) and the shackle angle is perfect at around 90* relative to the springs. 52"s up front btw. I havec some better pics where you can really see the flex out of the 64"s but I have to get them from my friend so for now this is all I got. This is at hollister hills by the way on the bitch trail and the jungle trail

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/lochenjons/CIMG1941.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/lochenjons/CIMG1920.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/lochenjons/CIMG1928.jpg

It happens to the best of us....

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/lochenjons/CIMG1944.jpg


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http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217386&page=4