i have a buddy (chris goldman) who is waiting on a 6to1 t-case from you. he called me today and said that you have put his due date off from the middle of this month until the end of this month. he forgot to ask you if that ment you would get it by the end of the month or he would get it by the end of the month. we have a tellico run planed for the june 2-5 and we are stressing over weather or not he'll get it by then. is he? i need to know because i may have access to a 4to1 case he can borrow if not. thanks

I'm not trying to answer for dave or anything but he doesn't usually like to talk about that kinda stuff on the board. try emailing him, he can be kinda difficult to get on the phone, for me atleast.

Originally posted by ROCKILLER
I'm not trying to answer for dave or anything but he doesn't usually like to talk about that kinda stuff on the board. try emailing him, he can be kinda difficult to get on the phone, for me atleast.

i'm not bashing, complaining, or anything so there should not be a problem. i just want to know if we can expect the case or not. i need to make plans so.......

A PM works!

Originally posted by ROCKILLER
I'm not trying to answer for dave or anything but he doesn't usually like to talk about that kinda stuff on the board. try emailing him, he can be kinda difficult to get on the phone, for me atleast.

sorry it's so hard for you to get ahold of me....we have more guys helping out now, so I spend more time whoopin' them into shape:rasta: and it looks like we're going to open up another shop soon:D :D

I have a call in to the gear maker (Rob) and if he hasn't replied, it's because he is working his ass off getting the gears done.

Last time we talked, he was picking up the last 15 sets...so I think he is doing them and the other 10 sets all at one time...

here is a list of the guys we have orders for.

J Applegate
Dirt Weasel "Paul" (2 sets)
K Ginbher
G Thompson
R Dermo
J Zeller
K Braden
C Goldman

D Gerber
B Goodwin
J Brockenhaver
D Taylor
S Roddy
D Negrete (2 sets)
R Jones
D Hanson
Eric "Stomper"
Bob
Chris V
sooooooo that leaves only 3 sets left over
if your not on the list and you want a set, ya might want to hurry and get your order in before they are gone.....:D

Originally posted by high5


i'm not bashing, complaining, or anything so there should not be a problem. i just want to know if we can expect the case or not. i need to make plans so.......

Hey Brian, I talked to Chris today....and told him "as soon as I know, he will know":confused: if I had an extra one, I would send it.......

Originally posted by RudeZuk
A PM works!

rudezuk, yours might but mine does not. it always says it is full when there is nothing in it. i have e-mailed admin 3 weeks ago but i have not gotten a reply as to why this is happening.


dave, thanks for the reply. as i said he told me he was not sure if you were looking to get the gears at the end of the month or if he could look forward to the case at the end of the month. i guess i'll try and set up the 4to1 t-case for him to borrow. thanks again.

Originally posted by high5


rudezuk, yours might but mine does not. it always says it is full when there is nothing in it. i have e-mailed admin 3 weeks ago but i have not gotten a reply as to why this is happening.


dave, thanks for the reply. as i said he told me he was not sure if you were looking to get the gears at the end of the month or if he could look forward to the case at the end of the month. i guess i'll try and set up the 4to1 t-case for him to borrow. thanks again.

search around in the boxes in the time frame (beginning) then delete

Originally posted by Bill4rest


search around in the boxes in the time frame (beginning) then delete


duh! when i say there is nothing in my in my in box i mean there is nothing in my in box. i have deleted all messages to the beginning. AGAIN, something is wrong with it!!! :rolleyes:

Check sent messages, these count too...

Originally posted by high5



duh! when i say there is nothing in my in my in box i mean there is nothing in my in box. i have deleted all messages to the beginning. AGAIN, something is wrong with it!!! :rolleyes:


I bet you that there isnt... check all dates and check your sent folder... Ill bet 5 bucks that if you tell me your password I can fix it :).. you can always reset it after

Originally posted by Rerard



I bet you that there isnt... check all dates and check your sent folder... Ill bet 5 bucks that if you tell me your password I can fix it :).. you can always reset it after

don't do it..he'll turn ya into a fawkin' newbie again...LOL

I checked my PM's and found a shit load of them....read the first one, and never was able to get back to the other ones....
just tell guys to use real email....:rasta:

Originally posted by high5



duh! when i say there is nothing in my in my in box i mean there is nothing in my in box. i have deleted all messages to the beginning. AGAIN, something is wrong with it!!! :rolleyes:

Well excuse me, I guess I'll go Pm some people. Post count must not reflect IQ as I once thought:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Gozuki
Check sent messages, these count too...

well that may have been it. i guess i'm a retard for not realizing the sent messages counted as "in box". heck i didn't know that it kept the sent messages. i cleaned out my sent messages so hopefully i'm back up and running. you guys were right i must be :rasta:

Dave,

Maaaaaaaaate, put me on the list.
I'm selling all sorts of junk at the moment to fund my aussie comp rig. LOL

Originally posted by skippy79
Dave,

Maaaaaaaaate, put me on the list.
I'm selling all sorts of junk at the moment to fund my aussie comp rig. LOL

I'll catch ya on ICQ....

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


Hey Brian, I talked to Chris today....and told him "as soon as I know, he will know":confused: .......

ok, here is the "latest word from the main Elf"

he rang me up yesterday....said he is going to have 25 to 30 sets ready for us to pick up the first week of June.

We are going to send one of our crew over to pick them up...

any questions, email me off list

Thanks

Dave, you gotta re-dub this and make it your commercial. :D

http://www.gohumvee.com/images/movies/sumo/SUMO.mpg

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


here is a list of the guys we have orders for.

J Applegate
Dirt Weasel "Paul" (2 sets)
K Ginbher
G Thompson
R Dermo
J Zeller
K Braden
C Goldman

D Gerber
B Goodwin
J Brockenhaver
D Taylor
S Roddy
D Negrete (2 sets)
R Jones
D Hanson
Eric "Stomper"
Bob
Chris V
.....:D

"ethical"

we feel it is no longer ethical for us to market the SUMO 6.1's as it is currently set up between us and our provider. We are close friends with Rob, but business is business. We wish him all the best. All the outstanding orders above will be filled by us, and warranties honored by Robert.

I have contacted another well known Vendor and gave him Rob's email address. I hate to market anything we can not pick up local, or is not in stock. Our plan at first went from Robert supplying us with gears, then we take orders for them. Rob was afraid they wouldn't sell fast enough, so he asked that we take a non-refundable deposit of $100 dollars, then charge the remaining amount before he would ship them to us. We have good credit with all our other suppliers and do not need to prepay for parts, and do not feel the need to get a loan to buy the gears up front. I spent many years building up our accounts, to get the best prices and quality products......and build a reputation of doing right by everyone......without slamming another Vendor to market our products

Now the policy has became even more demanding. He wants us to get core gears from us before we can have our orders.

Bottom line.....I hate to wait on parts, and hate to make customers wait. We had outstanding orders for gears, and they were sold to another vendor. We will not allow this to happen again. If Rob's policy changes, we will keep marketing his gears.

any questions?

Dave

Wow dave, sorry to hear this.....Hope things work out!

Originally posted by RudeZuk
Wow dave, sorry to hear this.....Hope things work out!

Yea, that sucks:(

Originally posted by RudeZuk
Wow dave, sorry to hear this.....Hope things work out!

it will all work out just fine.....if Rob will allow another vendor (with a great reputation of getting parts out on time that doesn't get into smack talking to sell his products) market these gears....

I sent word to Tim Tackett of North Coast, in hopes he will market them also....

we are glad we had the chance to help someone market such a fine product, when no one else would even talk to him about it....

Rob spent several days in Moab trying to find a US vendor.........and they all ignored him..........:flipoff2:

We were the only ones that took an interest in them.....and had faith in Rob......sorry we're not rich enough to buy them exclusive!

Rob isn't to blame, he can only have them made every 12 weeks, he needs the cores and the money up-front......

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


"ethical"

All the outstanding orders above will be filled by us, and warranties honored by Robert.

any questions?

Dave

So, does this mean that we will have to deal with Robert ourselves on any warrany issues? I don;t like the idea of having to call England to make a warranty claim. :eek:

Sorry to hear that this isn't going to work out for you, Dave.

I'm concerned about this, since I am on that above list. If the warranty claims would be handled by another "reputable" supplier, I just hope this supplier is someone easy to work with...

Originally posted by dangerber


....I'm concerned about this, since I am on that above list......

Yeah, what he said :rolleyes: . I ordered the gears from you 'cause you have proven honest and trustworthy. Is this the way it is for the gears on order (first week of June delivery) :question:

Originally posted by dangerber


So, does this mean that we will have to deal with Robert ourselves on any warrany issues? I don;t like the idea of having to call England to make a warranty claim. :eek:

Sorry to hear that this isn't going to work out for you, Dave.

I'm concerned about this, since I am on that above list. If the warranty claims would be handled by another "reputable" supplier, I just hope this supplier is someone easy to work with...

geez, I didn't die......I just am not going to sell/market anymore of them the way we have been doing it.....
if Rob will go back to his past method of providing them to us...we'll keep them on our site.....

I will finish up the orders we have, and make sure your all coverd......I hold the title to a very modified Zuk with his parts in it, plus a very expensive plasma cutter in my possession......I don't think he wants to screw anyone.....

I can't blame him, he has bills to pay......


look there are only so many Zuks, of them there are only so many that will buy a product, and of them only so many that will buy that product from either Vendor.......then top it off with once any product hits the market....it's not long before someone comes out with one just like it.....

it's a Dog eat Dog world.....

Originally posted by Tusker


Yeah, what he said :rolleyes: . I ordered the gears from you 'cause you have proven honest and trustworthy. Is this the way it is for the gears on order (first week of June delivery) :question:

this is one of the reasons I am thinking about bailing out of them.....we have had orders from January that were sent to another company.........
then promissed if we dotted every eye and crossed every tee....we would get them this time as planned......

we will have gears next week, and more the following week.....

or look on eBay for a cool Zuk 4-sale:flipoff2:

I would like to keep my word and reputation..and never smack talk another vendor......(unless I am smacked on) to sell anything

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


geez, I didn't die......I just am not going to sell/market anymore of them the way we have been doing it.....
if Rob will go back to his past method of providing them to us...we'll keep them on our site.....

I will finish up the orders we have, and make sure your all coverd......I hold the title to a very modified Zuk with his parts in it, plus a very expensive plasma cutter in my possession......I don't think he wants to screw anyone.....

I can't blame him, he has bills to pay......


look there are only so many Zuks, of them there are only so many that will buy a product, and of them only so many that will buy that product from either Vendor.......then top it off with once any product hits the market....it's not long before someone comes out with one just like it.....

it's a Dog eat Dog world.....

Hehe! Sorry about that, Dave, didn't mean to make it sound like you were being bumped off or anything! ;)

It's good to know that YOU are the type of vendor that will watch out for us...There are vendors, and there are GOOD vendors, just a shame that the ones with good business sense usually get the short end of the stick in these situations.

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


or look on eBay for a cool Zuk 4-sale:flipoff2:


I get 1st dibs Dave:D

Originally posted by Bill4rest


I get 1st dibs Dave:D

it goes by "Highest Bid":flipoff2:

you haven't wheeled in awhile..sure you could handle it?:rasta:

Originally posted by dangerber


Hehe! Sorry about that, Dave, didn't mean to make it sound like you were being bumped off or anything! ;)

It's good to know that YOU are the type of vendor that will watch out for us...There are vendors, and there are GOOD vendors, just a shame that the ones with good business sense usually get the short end of the stick in these situations.

Thanks.....if there is any way we can keep these and NOT screw/lie our way out of your money.....we will do it.....

anyone want to partner up $$$? we could be HUGE....LOL

Glad to see you catch on quick, without mentioning names....

there is a Vendor that will have a real hard time trying to sell another product to anyone from Arizona, because of what he told a group in Moab:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

it goes by "Highest Bid":flipoff2:

HEY! I just thought a bud would help a bud out! LOL:flipoff2:


you haven't wheeled in awhile..sure you could handle it?:rasta:

Oh please, Does a chicken have a pecker!:question: All you would have to do is stand back and watch the mastaaaaaaa lol:rasta:

Originally posted by Bill4rest


HEY! I just thought a bud would help a bud out! LOL:flipoff2:




Oh please, Does a chicken have a pecker!:question: All you would have to do is stand back and watch the mastaaaaaaa lol:rasta:

you wasn't that good to begin with...LOL

GOT 6.1's? if nothing else...I got mine from the best Vendor I know......maybe Rob won't sell any through another Vendor.and he will be forced to go back to the original plan???

Dave,

From your posts your trying to innocently portray Rob out as some sort of bad guy.
Whould you still be threatening his property publically online if he was on the same various suzuki lists.
We both know what has gone on and why the out come is such.
I like you as a mate I think your a pretty cool guy but don't keep digging yourself into what could turn out to be an embarassing situation.
Lurk mode reactivated.
Timmy

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


you wasn't that good to begin with...LOL

What are you talking about!:question: Last time I wheeled with you I was tugg'n you back to spider! LOL So I was not even warmed up:rasta:
+ I have learned alot since then:D

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk

.....I don't think he wants to screw anyone.....

I can't blame him, he has bills to pay......

it's a Dog eat Dog world.....

I did not get that impression. He is only trying to set his customer's minds at ease and using a little PBB humor.

Originally posted by TIMMY CANE
Dave,

From your posts your trying to innocently portray Rob out as some sort of bad guy.
Whould you still be threatening his property publically online if he was on the same various suzuki lists.
We both know what has gone on and why the out come is such.
I like you as a mate I think your a pretty cool guy but don't keep digging yourself into what could turn out to be an embarassing situation.
Lurk mode reactivated.
Timmy

actually, he's trying to say that he still wants to do biz with him, he just can't promise them to customers when there is such a long wait, in addition to a core gear commitment and $$ commitment.

Originally posted by TIMMY CANE
Dave,

From your posts your trying to innocently portray Rob out as some sort of bad guy.
Whould you still be threatening his property publically online if he was on the same various suzuki lists.
We both know what has gone on and why the out come is such.
I like you as a mate I think your a pretty cool guy but don't keep digging yourself into what could turn out to be an embarassing situation.
Lurk mode reactivated.
Timmy

Hey Ya Fawkin' Newbie Welcome to POR Board:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

these 2 guys caught on right away, and know a "Joke" when the read one......they also know whats going on round here...

(((actually, he's trying to say that he still wants to do biz with him, he just can't promise them to customers when there is such a long wait, in addition to a core gear commitment and $$ commitment.)))

(((I did not get that impression. He is only trying to set his customer's minds at ease and using a little PBB humor.)))

I just want some guys to know why they have been waiting since January for their order.....and why the gears went to another Vendor....while I did everything asked of me by Rob ("plus") to get them......

Buying from a manufacture out of the USA has it's down side.....should anything ever happen to Rob after he collects the money......I doubt his family will be paying back the money....this is one of the reasons we are going to stop selling them for him.....that and the ever changing method in getting them to us.....

There are only so many Vendors that market Suzuki parts, that are not currently marketing lower gears......of them I have sent word to one quality Vendor that CAN AFFORD to buy the gears from Rob, then sell what is in stock.....Rob would do great by him, he is a "NO BS" type guy......

I have publicly stated and emailed Rob all about this.....I wish to be close friends with him, but can not afford to market his gears the way it is set up now....if he could keep it the way we started, I would be more than happy to accept them back....

now, go to "general chit chat" reply to everything and get out of the Newbie mode:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by TIMMY CANE
Dave,

From your posts your trying to innocently portray Rob out as some sort of bad guy.
Whould you still be threatening his property publically online if he was on the same various suzuki lists.
We both know what has gone on and why the out come is such.
I like you as a mate I think your a pretty cool guy but don't keep digging yourself into what could turn out to be an embarassing situation.
Lurk mode reactivated.
Timmy

So you are the famous Tim Cane from the UK. :D I saw your Samurai in the Rocky Road Outfitters web site. Some people told me that you won a lot of competitions with it. I like your vehicle. It is the best Samurai I ever seen. :D No offense to anyone, but he is a newbie but I think he is up there. :D Tim, do you still got your yellow Samurai that is this picture:

http://www.rocky-road.com/extreme10.html

Still have it of sorts.........
It changed abit since that photo - added full width Range Rover axles and 35's about two years ago. Rear wheel steering got shelfed for a while due to British road laws but looks as though the problems are now solved so may have that on it soon.
Moved it into the workshop two weeks ago to put it on a diet. It must have weighed 1500 kg +. Working on a minimalistic carbon fibre body for it at the moment. Looking at a kerb weight of hopefully under 1000kg fully laided with kit. Based on the average other competitors vehicles weighing 2000kg and only using the big Warn Motors on 8274s it should winch pretty fast!
Aiming to have it finished by the end of the summer and tested fully by the first event in November.
Timmy Cane

Welcome to the dark Side Tim

:D :D :D :D :beer: Dark ale