: Powerlock for a 20?


ROKWALKER
05-17-2002, 07:17 PM
I haven't seen one. Does Dana make them? I seen one for sale but, can't find any info sites on the powerlocks? Anyone? :trooper:

Turtleack
05-17-2002, 07:30 PM
The powerlock is a big brother to the tracklock which is commonly used by DC in the Jeep line of vehicles. Both are limited slip units and the powerlock is a far more durable and long lasting traction aid of the two. I have run powerlocks in the front end of my TJ for several years. No, it is not a locker but it will perform almost as well under certain circumstances, especially in the front differential. Hope this helps.

ROKWALKER
05-17-2002, 07:42 PM
I've got one in the front but the one in question for sale is for the rear 20. I guess the clutches have been removed and shims replaced. I haven't had mine apart so I can't really comment on if that works better. My front 30 powerlock has always worked fine.

Rick 601
05-18-2002, 08:02 AM
They are pricy (over $400) Randys Ring and Pinion has them, so does reider racing. I called a dana distributer and he said dana didn't make one for my 44 with 4:56- but Randy's DID have one for that- It's not clear if dana makes them or not (!!??!!) RR&P said they don't, the dana distrib said they do.. (maybe they make the parts and farm out assembly-Precision gear was mentioned)

Heres an edited e-mail I got from someone about the power-lok (no permission- I hope he doesn't mind):

I live in Washington state and many of the old Jeeps up here are running
Powr-loks as they allow the tight turns required to slip between the trees.
Most of the newer rigs are running lockers, but the Powr-lok is still a
viable option and one that doesn't break or cause other parts to break. I
was looking for a used one that I could rebuild (low budget rig here) and
finally gave up and put a lock-right in the front. I'm running a narrowed GM
14-bolt in the rear and the cheapest locker available for it is a Detroit,
so that's what I put in it. I recommend the Detroit if you can live with the
handling characteristics, but if not, the Powr-lok is about the most durable
limited slip available that transfers a decent amount of torque.





>
> The Spicer Powr-lok has nothing in common with the Trac-lok except the
same
> manufacturer. The Powr-lok has 4 spider gears and the trac-lok has only 2,
> so there is a major strength advantage for the Powr-lok. You won't be able
> to hurt one easily.
>
> The difference in the way the two L/S's work is something like the
> following:
>
> Trac-lok. Steel clutch plates are forced together by a pair of Belleville
> springs. Belleville springs are basically washers that are deformed into a
> cup shape. Smashing the cup back to flat "compresses" the springs. They
are
> pretty strong, but have very limited travel. What that means is that as
the
> clutch plates wear a little bit, the Belleville springs lose their preload
> quickly and stop applying pressure to the clutch packs. The main force on
> the clutch pack is the Belleville spring, with some additional force
coming
> from the pitch angle of the spider gear/side gear teeth. The spider gear
> teeth are thick at the bottom and thin at the top. As more torque load is
> applied to the differential, the spider gears try to force the side gears
> away, and this adds pressure to the clutch pack which helps to transfer
more
> torque. That's why applying the brake lightly can help to engage a limited
> slip diff. These diffs are notoriously difficult to reassemble, because
the
> spider gears are under tension. Disassembly is easy though, because the
> clutch packs are almost always worn out.
>
> Powr-lok. The Powr-lok has a clutch pack under each side gear similar to a
> Trac-lok. But it uses a different kind of spring to apply the clutch
> preload. Unlike the Belleville spring, the (coil or "S" spring, can't
> remember which) has significantly more travel. The clutch pack can wear
> considerably and the spring can still apply a meaningful amount of
pressure.
> Also, instead of relying on the wedging effect of the spider/side gears to
> load the clutch packs, the Powr-lok uses a ramp under the end of the
spider
> gear pins to force the spider gears toward the side gears and apply
> additional load. These diffs are easy to take apart and put together.
> They're bolted together like most lockers. Different shims can be
installed
> to change the preload characteristics. Leaving a shim out can set one up
> with "zero-preload" which will make it undectible in the front axle on
snow
> and ice. Lightly applying the brake will ramp up the spider gear pins and
> allow it to transfer some torque. A thick preload shim or an extra one
will
> result in a lot of preload which will allow nearly zero differentiation.
>
> A Powr-lok is a great way to save the fragile u-joints in a weak front
end.
> It will transfer quite a bit of torque, but not so much as to break parts
> like a full locker.
>
>
> In my opinion, the Powr-lok is the cream of the L/S crop.

ROKWALKER
05-18-2002, 05:06 PM
Cool.....thanks. But, do you believe that replacing the clutches with supposedly stronger shims is a way to go?