900 lbs on a swing out carrier - Yikes!

[MigMiester]

May have seen it already. Posted here for your amusement. Asking a lot from that little spindle I think!!

[ZJim]

Looks safe.

[AthlonAJ]

Guess I'm not seeing what the problem is.:confused: He's got it well supported when it's swung out as well as when it's not.

[Pavemen]

looks fine. drop the wheel then swing it out. once locked on the bumper, then raise the wheel.

[braxton357]

Maybe you've all missed how many tire carrier bumpers built the same way have failed while cruising down the hwy... I sure as fuck wouldn't put my $5k welder and likely livelyhood on a single shear shit metal spindle. Nor would I make it so easy to steal...

[ChiScouter]

Maybe you've all missed how many tire carrier bumpers built the same way have failed while cruising down the hwy... I sure as fuck wouldn't put my $5k welder and likely livelyhood on a single shear shit metal spindle. Nor would I make it so easy to steal...


X2

[tacoma73]

x3

reading those threads put Tha Fear into me and I have yet to design a satisfactorily beefy tire carrier to avoid losing a 38" tire on the highway.

Thank you PBB. :flipoff2:

[Brad]

Looks bigger than just the usual 1" trailer spindles. It also has a big hub on it compared to a machined peice of tube/roundbar to fit bearings The angled ends help vs the stacked design most use for tire carriers. Any pics of the drivers side?

[TR]

That swing out looks like it is bolted to his frame

[AthlonAJ]

Maybe you've all missed how many tire carrier bumpers built the same way have failed while cruising down the hwy... I sure as fuck wouldn't put my $5k welder and likely livelyhood on a single shear shit metal spindle. Nor would I make it so easy to steal...

True, very true.

On a side note I've seen quite a few pics of these tire carrier spindle failures and I honestly think the reason they failed was due to the installation and construction of the swingout. I've seen firsthand one that failed and came into the shop for repair. Asked the guy how he welded it, he said, "cranked up the welder and just burned it in." Too much heat, too quick or welding then trying to cool it with water or a damp rag will do that. A lot of variables involved, from the latch to the construction of the bumper itself.

[jasonmt]

A small case gas Bobcat/Trailblazer/Legend maxes out at 600#'s as well (which it is, you can tell by the case) and it could be a 1750# trailer spindle for all anyone knows.

That being said not knowing exactly how and what it was constructed of I would not be wanting to spend too much time behind him on the highway.

[MigMiester]

Looks bigger than just the usual 1" trailer spindles. It also has a big hub on it compared to a machined peice of tube/roundbar to fit bearings The angled ends help vs the stacked design most use for tire carriers. Any pics of the drivers side?

One little pin with a lock holding the driver side.

The other pin on the right holds the wheel jack when it's folded up.

[braxton357]

I wonder how much time it takes for him to be able to actually get into the bed of his truck...

[300sniper]

I wonder how much time it takes for him to be able to actually get into the bed of his truck...


at least he still has the bed of the truck to get into. i think it will probably be ok. it looks like it was built heavy enough. i think what kills the tire carriers is the constant vibration or resonance. i have seen bicycle carriers rip trailer hitches off of unibody cars from the constant vibration. the welder is heavy and close to the bumper and looks to be pretty solid. if the vibration is kept under control i bet it will survive.

[SHERPA]

seeing as how I've seen about 4 of those trailer spindle swing out carriers
bust off from just holding a regular 35" tire and wheel, I'd go as far to say
you're gonna make some real good freinds with an attorney, your auto
insurance company, and best of all, the poor sap (who becomes very wealthy)
from suing your ass when, (not IF, mind you, but when) that spindle breaks
and your 600# miller welder becomes a trident missle bumping up and down
the road behind your suv.........

bonus points if the welder makes it over the median and takes out a family
on vacation in their minivan...............


--Sherpa

thought I'd seen alot of stuff that could go wrong before....

[NOODLES]

looks like a 6 lug wheel hub and spindle from a car trailer. maybe a 10k trailer. I don't think is as weak as you think.
I wouldn't run that welder outside the bed unless you didn't care about waiting for the person that hit's your truck insurance company to replace the welder. or even an un insured like me. :D

[NOODLES]

Maybe you've all missed how many tire carrier bumpers built the same way have failed while cruising down the hwy... I sure as fuck wouldn't put my $5k welder and likely livelyhood on a single shear shit metal spindle. Nor would I make it so easy to steal...

if it was so common why aren't they illegal? this guy is obviously a welder, and maybe good, unlike most the people on the site.

[AthlonAJ]

Even these spindles used on axle will snap right off if they're welded in wrong (too much heat too quick or cooled too quick). A metal/repair shop I used to work at was building a new axle for a sprayer, huge ass spindle. The owner tacked it into place, went into the office quick and this newer guy took it upon himself to weld it in. When the owner came out and saw that...he was NOT happy. Made him gouge out the weld and replace it with a new one, pitched the one he welded in. Told him to preheat it first before welding or it would make it brittle on the outside of the haz and potentially snap right off.

Heck I didn't know, I asked him about it and he showed me a couple axles in the scrap pile that were that way from guys trying to repair it themselves.

[Haggar]

Hell of a lot of weight hanging that far off the back of a 1/2 ton, too. Wonder how light the front end gets in the bumps..

[PROJECTJUNKIE]

I'd have built a slide out for it instead, or maybe a swing out, just on the other side of the tail gate, with the spindle in the bed. That welder screams steal me, anybody that sees that welder knows theres a gas axe behind the window. Other than that, it looks pretty sturdy.