: Dana 300 flip kit


mccombs07
05-17-2002, 09:50 PM
I have a dana 300 hundred sitting in my garage. I want to put it in my TJ with 4:1 and 32 spline inputs and outputs. If I got the flip kit would I still need to get a rotator kit to clock it?

mccombs07
05-18-2002, 02:41 PM
Does anyone have any idea?

TJBob
05-18-2002, 04:21 PM
Why don't you just ask downeastoffroad? I'm sure they would know. Why would you want it anyway? It seems like a perfectly good way to throw away money that could be spent on something else.

I think I could replace my front axle with a passenger side dana 60 for less than what they charge for a flip kit. I'm amazed at what people will do to keep that dana 30 up front.

whatdaphuk
05-18-2002, 11:25 PM
i dont think so, i was looking ta the kit and i believe that it comes with a ring(since you have to move it anyway) but as stated above call downeastoffroad.com and they can answer any questions you have.

CRSU
05-19-2002, 08:53 AM
Nope, if you are gonna clock it you need a ring. or you have to drill holes in the tranny adapter. I am putting one in my XJ(44 front) and I got one that takes care of the cutting of the output shaft you have to do with the flip kit.

Bert
05-19-2002, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by TJBob
Why don't you just ask downeastoffroad? I'm sure they would know. Why would you want it anyway? It seems like a perfectly good way to throw away money that could be spent on something else.

I think I could replace my front axle with a passenger side dana 60 for less than what they charge for a flip kit. I'm amazed at what people will do to keep that dana 30 up front.

WTF are you trying to tell him. That buying a Dana 60 passenger side front end. With Gears and a locker and brakes and rims, and changing the exhaust will be the same price as a flip kit?

Your smokin something very expensive there... Think before you type. And dont try and say the dana 300 that he has is too weak he should just get an ATLAS. we have been there many times. Dollar for dollar the flip kit is more inexpensive.

Dana 60-
dana 60 brakes
Dana 60 locker
Dana 60 gears
8 bolt front rims
exhaust redo.
Still needs dana 300 4 to1 = same price either way
will need clock kit for dana 300-with flip kit he dont.

Now he needs to keep all the rims the same so he needs a 60 in the rear or equivalent.
now he needs rear rims 8 bolt.

Yea your right it's cheeper. :rolleyes:

mccombs07
05-19-2002, 10:05 AM
So Bert what you are saying is with the flip kit i dont need to clock it?

TJBob
05-19-2002, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Bert


WTF are you trying to tell him. That buying a Dana 60 passenger side front end. With Gears and a locker and brakes and rims, and changing the exhaust will be the same price as a flip kit?



Well in a round about way, yes it is possible. Now it is virtually impossible to predict what equipment he has now, but if you go with a more recent (10 year old or less) axle with 4.10 gears (assuming he may have 4.10's already) and decent brakes, you can cut down those costs dramatically. Every situation is different, but it IS possible to do a front dana 60 swap under $700. Can you spend more, absolutely.

And what do you get if you flip the dana 300? A 2.6 ratio transfer case that cost $800 and it doesn't even have the 4:1 kit in it yet, woo hoo. I just think the money saved by passing on the flip kit can be used to improve another aspect of his rig, beit an axle, gearing, lockers, rocker/corner protection, blah blah blah...

Scout Dude
05-19-2002, 10:55 AM
I'm sorta with TJBob on this one...Except, he could just buy the brackets from RE and weld them to a waggy 44 to put in his TJ...not as expensive as a 60 but the 44 can be built up over time.

The 300 was never designed to run upside down..I know it seems to work but for that amount of money...BUY A FAWKEN ATLAS!

mccombs07
05-19-2002, 01:58 PM
The cost of the atlas is the main deterrant. If I bought the flip kit, got the 4:1 and the 32 spline input and outputs it would still be cheaper than a atlas.

NE-RokToy
05-19-2002, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by mccombs07
The cost of the atlas is the main deterrant. If I bought the flip kit, got the 4:1 and the 32 spline input and outputs it would still be cheaper than a atlas.

how much cheaper? I know the 32 spline outputs arent cheap either are the 4:1 gears. Flip kit is around $800 and I think the gears are about the same so thats $1600. can't you get an atlas for about $2000 so that means you only have $400 to drop on those outputs.......

DNA
05-22-2002, 11:27 PM
I got my DEOR flip kit through a GB - $550. Tera Low 300 $550 and HD300 $250 - both these are from DC. Both are great prices for these items and are probably not everyday, but he hooked me up with the GB prices. My D300 was $100. That brings my total to $1450.

For a NP231 I could have gotten an SYE - $250 and then the Tera Low - $900. I don't know about a HD mainshaft for the NP231, but the total for upgrading the NP231 is $1150 w/o a HD mainshaft.

Atlas II is over $2K AFAIK - correct me if I'm wrong. I purposely left out the driveshafts as I'll need rear driveshafts for each of these applications. I also need a front from a shackle reversal so these negate each other in the comparisons as well.

Everyone's situation will be different, but saving over $600 is pretty big for my pocket. And it will go a long ways towards other modifications for the YJ.

To each his own.

DTC
05-23-2002, 07:51 PM
I Did the flip kit into my YJ which has the NV4500 and the 4.1 in the 300. The only problems I had was the middle gear in the D300 hits the alum. spacer on top of the case, this was no big deal it only took two sec to remove that area with a hand file. And the other problem which really sucks is drive shaft angle. the rear output of the flipped D300 sits about 4 inches higher than my 231, Even with the CV shaft I had to have my spring pads rewelded on my Tera60R. I couldnt turn the driveshaft at all. If you use your stock tranny you shouldnt have to use a clock ring. it will sit pretty close to a flat position. And its ALOT CHEAPER THAN AN ATLAS.:flipoff2: