I have a k5 ten bolt with 3.10 in it i think. It is being used in a metric sas. Looking into lockers, regears, chromoly shafts. Cant seem to find much for this axle. Was hoping yall might be able to help me come up with some information. Thank you in advance for any information.

get a 12 bolt and youll have more options. better yet, get a 14

I have a k5 ten bolt with 3.10 in it i think. It is being used in a metric sas. Looking into lockers, regears, chromoly shafts. Cant seem to find much for this axle. Was hoping yall might be able to help me come up with some information. Thank you in advance for any information.

You are just wasting your money on that.

http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog/cmfrontaxleshafts.htm

I take it that you talking a 10 bolt front axle instead of rear. But either way it isn't worth the money. A polished turd is still a turd.

A 10 bolt is comparable to a dana 44, but not nearly as much crap is talked about it as as compared to the 10 bolt.

one question? WHY???

Cause Dana axles overall have had a good long standing reputation.
Dana 44's were put in many different applications, both front and rear, for a long time.
GM started using the 10 bolt in the late 70's, based the 10 bolt on the Dana 44, and although both axles are as strong in a relative sense, there is probably more aftermarket support for the D44.
The only advantage that I can think of 10 blt vs D44 is the 10blt has a larger diameter pinion shaft.

What size tire do you plan on running? Anything bigger than a 35's it won't matter what you put in it, it won't last long. I popped 5 teeth off the ring gear in my rear 10 with just 31's.

i wanted to go with the d44 obviously, and do plan on eventually upgrading. but i got the 10 bolt front for damn near free and couldnt pass it up. The truck is under 150 horses so it is not going to be under tremendous stress and will be on 35s. dont want to go any bigger than that on that axle. I know that this axle is not the best choice but its what i have, so i am triying to work with it. Was just hoping for a little information as to where i can find any parts for this axle. Thanks

waste of time

get a 14 bolt FF... cheap, strong
d44 front, or a 60 if you can find one.

thats the way to go, i'm doin it on my truck as soon as i can find some axles.

Don't waste money to swap in a D44, it is pointless. It is no stronger then a 10 bolt front. When you break a D44 or 10b you usually break a ujoint, inner axle at the neckdown or the stub. The D44 & 10b both have neckdown inners, both run the same ujoint, & both use the same stub therefore they are the same strength if they both share & break the same parts.

If you are running only 35" tires then make sure your ujoints are good quality and that they axle is in good shape and run it. Sure a D60 is great answer but it costs alot of money that it doesn't sound like you need yet. If you want to run bigger tires then start searching for a D60 but don't let not having a D60 keep you off the trail with 35's. Sure you can break a 10 bolt front with 35's but it won't automatically self distruct unless you are driving like a moron.

If you want to add a locker then drop in a Lockright for cheap. I wouldn't drop a ton of money on a 10 bolt unless you plan to stay with 35's forever. If you find a D60 for a decent price get it but if not then have fun with what you have till you do.

You don't have to have a D60 to hit the trails with 35's.

Harley

harley thanks man, that was the information that i needed. i go hard when i can but i know when to crawl to, i think that my driving and sheer lack of horsepower should keep me in good shape on that axle. i would love to go 60s but they are so damn heavy for one thing. super strong, but so heavy. my rig all said and done will be full bodied and still under 3000 pounds. so i like keeping the weight down. do you have any suggestions on the best place to get a lockright? or new ujoints just in case? i also really need to go to a much lower gear do you know where i might be able to locate a regear to the 4.77 ball park? thank you

you're right i dunno why i said swap in a d44... :confused:

Got my lockright from summit. Best price at the time. Make sure your bearings are tight, the pinion moving around was the cause of my ring gear death.

If you plan on getting new shafts made, think about swapping the carrier out for a 30 spline carrier. Also, I think you should be able to run CTM d44 joints. Costly, but you won't find anything stronger for your application.

Neil

I think your polishin a turd here. Me and my friends go out , and one pop's hub's on a normal basis with his 10 bolt . it is powered by and old tired v8 , and 4.56 gears. Don't waste your time . I Did and Sas on and S10 and am proud to say that mine is sportin one ton's. But do as you want and good luck .

If you put the 10 bolt in just weld it up and make sure the ujoints are good. Then tack the caps in. This way you won't waste any money so you can save for a 60.

harley thanks man, that was the information that i needed. i go hard when i can but i know when to crawl to, i think that my driving and sheer lack of horsepower should keep me in good shape on that axle. i would love to go 60s but they are so damn heavy for one thing. super strong, but so heavy. my rig all said and done will be full bodied and still under 3000 pounds. so i like keeping the weight down. do you have any suggestions on the best place to get a lockright? or new ujoints just in case? i also really need to go to a much lower gear do you know where i might be able to locate a regear to the 4.77 ball park? thank you


Get some Spicer 5-760x ujoints and install them in your axles. Then tack weld the caps in in about 8 places to make sure the stay in. One of the Vendors on here should be able to get you 760x ujoints for a good price.

I wouldn't waste money on going to a 30 spline carrier. I have been told that they 30 spline carriers are weaker then the 28 spline carriers.

Don't drop alot of money on your 10 bolt unless you are really set on keeping it. If you drop alot of money on chromo's, fullcase locker, gears, etc you will be able to buy a D60.

For wheeling with 35's I would use stock axles, Spicer ujoints w/tack welded caps, Lockright locker, & good hubs. This combo should be able to last awhile with 35's as long as you don't flog the truck with the skinny pedal.

Unless you are set on keeping the 10 bolt front I wouldn't regear it. If you look around you can often times find 10 bolts with lower gears for sale. 4.10's are pretty common and if you look long enough you can score axles that other people regeared with 4.56's and 4.88's. The nice part about 10 bolts is you can install the locker, axles, hubs on your current axle then swap them to a new axle if you find one with better gearing.

What rear axle are you running? If you are running a 10 bolt rear axle then I would check and see if it has a gov-lock in it. If it does it WILL break. If you want to wheel with a 10 bolt rear then you have 2 options in my mind. Upgrade to something stronger or upgrade the 10 bolt a little. For an open rear 10 bolt to wheel on a regular basis I would buy some budget Chromo axles & a lockright. If you have a Gov-lock then you need to try and get a new axle under the truck. A 12 bolt is a slight upgrade. A 14bsf is a moderate upgrade, and a 14bff is the ultimate upgrade.

Harley

i really think that i am going to try and run the 10b for a bit. i want to build up the rest of the truck... exo... things of that nature before i would go up to the 60. I really would like to go into the regear, i have been looking around like crazy and cannot locate one with anything lower than 4.10. I need lower than that. My rear axle is d44sf. 4.77 limslip. i hate the limslip on it and plan to put selectable locker in it, just not sure which one yet. just going one step at a time.

i am reasonably confident that even though the 10 has a weak rep that my very light truck/low horsepower combo might treat this axle well, pluss i dont drive like a complete ass on the trail. I would like to try to build this one up first and if it doesnt work out.... bummer but hey we make money to spend money right.

what i am gathering is that there is not a good place to find low gears for my 10b? i need to look in the second hand world? thanks again

ian

performance offroad center was the best price i found for a 10 bolt lock right it was $259.99. Here is the link http://www.performanceoffroadcenter.com/oscommerce/product_info.php?cPath=37_38_643&products_id=642&osCsid=ea9ec2278213f37d2f4b7e24fc136f04

Good luck finding low gears for a 10 bolt. Most people have d44's that they part out . 10 bolts are not so common in low gears because people that re gear know what they have axle wise. I have a friend with 4.56's for a 10 bolt but yet good luck finding lower than that.And good luck polising a turd. Also care to elaborate on the rest of the truck , and drivetrain.

thanks for that locker info.

i know you all have bad history with this axle but you are all at least small blocked with over 35. that is a lot more stress than my light ass rig with 4cyl will create. i think that if this axle has the right parts in it i will have a success story to tell yall.

i would be interested in those 4.56 if he wants to getrid of them. and if they are not up for sale where did he get them?

I will talk to him today and see if he wants them gone. The axle is laying in his backyard. And usless to most of us . Where you from?

I've been running 38.5 tire for 20 years on a 10 with 4.88 and a traclock LS. Piss on those saying you're wasting money. Go for it.

every one drives differnt and every axle is different a 10 bolt may last one guy 10 years as mentioned before. and a 10 bolt may last one guy 10 minutes I say give it a shot and see what happens just dont put a lot of money in it until u see if your going keep it. thats just my opinion