Because I picked one up at the gunshow today :laughing: The fuckers had no good ammo prices, no AR lowers(besides some crap ones and an overpriced built lower), a FAL the dude would not go lower on price because it was on "consignment" :shaking: , and some overpriced Kimbers.

But I got the XD for $500.

The XD is a well built gun...

Id carry one of them over a glaock if i was allowed to make that choice

Meh.

They work but just aren't up to the same level as the geeelock in my opinion.

Meh.

They work but just aren't up to the same level as the geeelock in my opinion.

ya, lets see. The Glock 21 gives me those stupid "please put our fingers in these spots we have decided for you" grip that doesn't fit my fingers right :flipoff2: I like the older Glock grips but they did not have a light rail.
Oh and the same craptastic front factory sight that all Glocks come with. :p

Oh and I get a spare mag, loader, holster and a grip safety :flipoff2:

Grip safeties are gay anyway.

Yeah Glock stock sights suck, except for the factory night sight which are good to go. And you can dremel the finger grooves off if you want, then texture the grip with some marinetex epoxy if you desire, come on it's right up your alley!

Grip safeties are gay anyway.

Yeah Glock stock sights suck, except for the factory night sight which are good to go. And you can dremel the finger grooves off if you want, then texture the grip with some marinetex epoxy if you desire, come on it's right up your alley!

I wanted a gun I do not have to modify :flipoff2: And there is nothing wrong with a grip safety, I don't mind safeties when they don't interfere with shooting. I already own a Sigma with a "Glock" safety and have fired glocks and I have no problem with those either.

Oh and the side is cut dovetail front and rear so no special tools needed for sight change either :flipoff2:

Know how to change Glock sights?(with trijicons or mepros, factory night sights require staking which can be done with or without the $20 factory tool, I did mine without the tool)

1. grab pliers.
2. firmly grasp slide, or lock slide in vise.
3. smartly rip POS stock sights out of slide using pliers from step 1
4. using supplied delrin puch, drift rear sight into place
5. using supplied tool and thread locker, coat threads of bolt and screw front sight into place.

Dovetails can be a bitch without a sight pusher on either one though.


Anyway my beef with the XD is not that it's a bad pistol, mostly that it's just how they were considered marginal when Intrac imported them as the HS2000. Then Springfield inc. gets ahold of the import rights, slaps the word "x-treme!!!11!one!" on the slide, whips up a flashy marketing campaign, and suddenly they are wonderful at double the price even though at first they did nothing different except the markings on the pistol. They have improved the original terrible finish and changed the extractor to a more durable design though.

Because I picked one up at the gunshow today :laughing: The fuckers had no good ammo prices, no AR lowers(besides some crap ones and an overpriced built lower), a FAL the dude would not go lower on price because it was on "consignment" :shaking: , and some overpriced Kimbers.

But I got the XD for $500.


Damn...I guess regional pricing does have an effect on everything....pistols included. At yesterdays gun show, everyone was asking $550 for a base XD 40 and 45. If it had the green body or ports was a bi-tone, they were $600 to start.

Yet, the local Guns and Ammo had an XD45 (the largest version) with a Kydex(?) holster and spare hi cap for $399.00 if you were paying with cash or debit card.

Still, when I bought my XD 40, they ran a special to where could have purchased the "new" at that time XD 45 for $349.00 if I bought it that day.

The .45 auto that I can think of with a similar capacity is a Para Ordnance...and a fully loaded Para is a heavy beast.

They had some brown/green and black ones yesterday and could not move them and finally placed them at a discount.
Sucks because I would have taken one :laughing:

Oh ya and I like the loaded chamber indicator in the XD. nice, obvious and no press check needed.

The new Glocks have a tit built into the extractor that you can do a visual or trigger finger check on as well.

The new Glocks have a tit built into the extractor that you can do a visual or trigger finger check on as well.

But the XD has a better grip :flipoff2: And front slide serrations :p



and an ambidextrous mag release :D

Paid $425 for a new one after tax for mine and it came with the holster, clip holster, and the loader helper thingy. I love mine shoots very well and have had no problems out of it. Recoil is about the same as my xd-9. would definatly recommend it to anyone.

Magazine you educated idiot.

Magazine you educated idiot.

lick sack or I will call it a "clip" next time just to piss someone off

I like the xds over the glock anyday, the glocks just grip like shit, theyre big and fat and have a funny feel to them. at least in my hands.

The xds are still big and fat but not near as much, and it feels more proper

And im diggin the grip safety too.

Glocks are great, but xds are better :D, in my opinion of course.

The XD is a great gun, especially newer ones without the finish problems. I shot an XD40 back to back with my G32 and they both shot great.

I've got the XD45 in Comact and Tactical. Shot them both today and love them!

I had a glock 23C for a while... I kept it in my car incase I needed some sort of defensive grenade...












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Magazine you educated idiot.

Interesting and i figured I would have caught flack over saying this: "the loader helper thingy" :flipoff2:

Interesting and i figured I would have caught flack over saying this: "the loader helper thingy" :flipoff2:

Well you could have called it a bullet clip too, then I would have had an excuse to post this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/deathray187/bulletclip.jpg

They don't suck. I've shot them in the 4 and 5 inch version. Both are good guns, but I think they're somewhat overpriced for what they are.

Solid gun, easy takedown, chamber indicator, firing pin indicator..............


You'll like it.

I've got the compact 45. I like it but damn the mag springs were/are tooooo tight. It was a bitch getting the last round into the mag. I broke them down, lubed them up, then left them loaded for a bit to break them in. If that doesn't work, I may play with cutting down one of the springs a bit to see if it still load all of the rounds.

I've shot nothing but reloads built for the indoor range. I haven't tried any hollow point man killers yet. I only have a few hundered through it so far.

Having owned both, I much prefer the XD. It fits my big paw much better than the Glock. Very nice weapon.

I hate glocks, the grip angle suck when you're used to shooting 1911's.

It's not the Glock's fault that you're unwilling to let go of your antiques.

The Glock has a similar grip angle to my favorite target/plinking pistol, the Ruger Mark I bull barrel. Not a problem.

That and the new Glock 21 slim frame looks pretty promising, I might be able to wrap my hand around the thing comfortably.

I hate glocks, the grip angle suck when you're used to shooting 1911's.
Glocks and 1911's have the same grip angle.

Glocks and 1911's have the same grip angle.

Find me an article that states what you claim.

The Springfield XD45 and the 1911 share the same grip angle. Glocks do not.

Doc that gun was a blast to use, the "roomie" was/is in love with that thing. Although she was really diging the sig. She clearly stated she like the larger cailber of your weapon.......................oh and I hate you :flipoff2:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q198/misfitcj/XD45.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q198/misfitcj/1911_1.jpg

Glocks and 1911's have the same grip angle.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Glock emulated the Luger when determining the grip angle.

XD magazines are shit. The rest of the gun is good. Too bad an auto pistol is nothing when the magazine feed lips are bent and the gun ftf's all the time.

I hate stupid threads comparing this to that and crap to taco J's.


do yourself another favor after the XD purchase.

http://www.springerprecision.com/default.asp

you won't regret it.

You should be fine with your new Springfield hope you enjoy it.

XD magazines are shit. The rest of the gun is good. Too bad an auto pistol is nothing when the magazine feed lips are bent and the gun ftf's all the time.

I'll have to research that....I've never had FTFeed or FTFire with over 1500 rounds sent through my 40. I did have to file dont the slide release because it was causing the open open feature to malfunction.

do yourself another favor after the XD purchase.

http://www.springerprecision.com/default.asp

you won't regret it.

what favor?
polish the feed ramp? it already is
install sights? I am pretty sure i can do that..pretty sure :laughing:
slight tighten? why its new, and I can do that
3lb trigger? the trigger is only like 4lbs as it is :laughing:
fit barrel? the gun is more accurate than I am :laughing:
grip shaping? I got it for that grip


sorry man I see nothing they can offer me :flipoff2:

As for the mags FTF, what is happening to them to cause that? I put 200 rounds in my typical testing shooting with no issues at ALL
strong/weak hand, many mag change, limp wristed it, double tap, whatever.

As for the mags FTF, what is happening to them to cause that? I put 200 rounds in my typical testing shooting with no issues at ALL
strong/weak hand, many mag change, limp wristed it, double tap, whatever.

Hey Doc, I think he meant this problem. However, being as you have a .45, I don't know if you should be concerned about any problems with XD mags or not. But, for my .40, I had to file down the slide stop because it was protruding to far into the magazine well.

XD 40 link (http://www.xd-hs2000.com/longsliderelease.html)


Stock stop


http://www.xd-hs2000.com/images/409WebRdy.jpg

Modified stop

http://www.xd-hs2000.com/images/My40AftrMod.jpg

I'll have to research that....I've never had FTFeed or FTFire with over 1500 rounds sent through my 40.

If you end up using it hard for competition or training you're bound to drop the mags on something hard, which can trash feed lips on mags. I've jacked up a few AR mags this way, Glock mags have the luxury of being armored with a coating of polymer, it protects them pretty well.

If you end up using it hard for competition or training you're bound to drop the mags on something hard, which can trash feed lips on mags. I've jacked up a few AR mags this way, Glock mags have the luxury of being armored with a coating of polymer, it protects them pretty well.

I drop them from time to time at the range and I've never encoutered a bent lip. But, I'll try harder.

well Gil???? do you like it or not?? I want to pick one up as the next hand cannon, I want to try a different .45 route rather than anouthe 1911 variant

lick sack or I will call it a "clip" next time just to piss someone off


Clips are for little girls' hair. Magazines are for feeding ammo into a firearm. :flipoff2:

Hope you enjoy it, Doc. I love mine.

well Gil???? do you like it or not?? I want to pick one up as the next hand cannon, I want to try a different .45 route rather than anouthe 1911 variant

Its worth it. I've shot an XD .45 and it was amazing

I hope to pick up my xd-40 tommorow or monday.

are the mags really hard enough to load that you need the supplied loader? I can pick up the xd without all the "xd gear" for about 80 less.

well Gil???? do you like it or not?? I want to pick one up as the next hand cannon, I want to try a different .45 route rather than anouthe 1911 variant
I love it, I just need some night sites for it.
drive your ass down here and shoot it :flipoff2: you can ice your nutsack if needed along te way

I hope to pick up my xd-40 tommorow or monday.

are the mags really hard enough to load that you need the supplied loader? I can pick up the xd without all the "xd gear" for about 80 less.

No, the mags are "normal" to load. Its a .45, the round is almost as wide as the loader :laughing:

You don't need the loader. New springs in all mags are stiff. Fill them to capacity for a couple of weeks, and you won't have blue thumbs from the loader anyway.

(The UpLULA and the HKS speedloader are much better than S.A. or Glock's factory mag loaders, and only cost you about $20.)

It's no secret that I prefer Glocks over XDs. But I know enough people with XDs who can run them well, that I wouldn't cry if someone dropped one into my lap. ;)

Doc, you need to play with an XD that has had a Springer trigger-job done to it. There's a lot more than the reduction in pull weight. I'd like to take one apart and see exactly what they do, but it's similar to the feel of the Vanek trigger in my Glock 34, just a pound heavier. The pull weight builds gradually through the pull (instead of stacking sharply at the end), it's very smooth, and there's definitely an overtravel & pretravel stop in there somewhere.

I'm slowly collecting the springs & factory parts to do a DIY trigger job on a friend's Glock, and do it right. If it turns out well, I'll post a 'how to' someday on getting a Glock down to 2.5 lbs with both overtravel & pre-travel stops, and with a very smooth trigger. :)

I love it, I just need some night sites for it.
drive your ass down here and shoot it :flipoff2: you can ice your nutsack if needed along te way



Meh, it'd be more fun to kick him in the boys. :D


I might be up for it after Atlanta, though... shooting the XD that is.

I see this and expect to find pics of this thing duracoated with skulls!

Sad sad sad.lol

Pics
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I see this and expect to find pics of this thing duracoated with skulls!

Sad sad sad.lol

Pics
J

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Yea, XDs do rock. Take the slides off an XD and a Glock and see how much beefier the guts are. Oh and FWIW............ http://www.xdtalk.com/

I have a first generation xd in .357 sig with ported barrel , love it !! The original finish sucked and I bought it used from a cop buddy , contacted Springfield and shipped it back and it was completely re - finished ,no charge . That's pretty decent customer service to me !