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[extremetoy]

and probably the only :laughing:

[SeaBass44]

let hear about your fj.............................

[Flexy Flatty]

well, this is unexpected

[808toy]

Aw shit you guys beat me to it. Don't you guys have something better to do? :flipoff2:

Except, I'm the first once again to post a picture relevant to the thread. Ha! :flipoff2:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/456/fjjj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Intrepidyota]

An FJ Cruiser section? I didn't know there was enough tech related to carrying groceries to warrant it. :p :laughing:

[jdrocks]

almost bought one last year, but then i didn't think that thing would look too good if it got dusty.

[12_Volt_Dave]

I bought one as my tow rig :D It's the wife's grocery getter when I'm not using it to tow or flogging it. It's the Titanium Silver with the alloys and the rear locker. I didn't want to spend the $$ for the upgrade package just to get the A-trac sytem so I bought the switch afterwards and plugged it in....and it works. Don't spend the money for upgrade package #2 if all you want is the A-Trac system. Just purchase the switch from the dealer for 45 bucks.

It doesn't do too bad in the tow department, I was pulling 75mph up the Fresh Pond grade coming back from the Con. It's nice to have the same power as a 5.0 in a v6.

[MUCHADO]

I bought one as my tow rig :D It's the wife's grocery getter when I'm not using it to tow or flogging it.

It doesn't do too bad in the tow department, I was pulling 75mph up the Fresh Pond grade coming back from the Con. It's nice to have the same power as a 5.0 in a v6.

What are you towing with it?

[12_Volt_Dave]

What are you towing with it?


A 16' bobcat trailer with this guy loaded onto it.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=289455&stc=1&d=1172204739

[RocKrawler]

I love mine, when the house sells I'm getting the Atlas 4 and solid axle ordered

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g53/damnplumber/DPP_07963.jpg

[AddictedOffroad]

I love mine, when the house sells I'm getting the Atlas 4 and solid axle ordered

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g53/damnplumber/DPP_07963.jpg

That is the :rainbow: rig I have even seen. So :rainbow: that I bet it even has a train horn. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[12_Volt_Dave]

An FJ Cruiser section? I didn't know there was enough tech related to carrying groceries to warrant it. :p :laughing:

You would be suprised how much tech there is on this thing already....

A-Trac hack (how to hook it up if you didn't pay for it...)
A-Trac and Rear Locker simultaneously...
Bypassing the Vehicle Stability Control (for two wheel fun...)
Clearancing the front body mounts for bigger tires...

and I could go on with all the companies now making sliders, bumpers, skid plates, lift kits, etc....

it's not too bad for a grocery getter. :D

[RocKrawler]

That is the :rainbow: rig I have even seen. So :rainbow: that I bet it even has a train horn. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Easy there Mr. multiple personalities, take your CJ5 wheelbase RV and haul your ass over to the "which vendor is better" 4 Runner section so you can answer the same question over & over again.

[Infernal Jeep]

Easy there Mr. multiple personalities,
Remember Terry,there's 4 of him and only one of you.You may be outnumbered,personality wise anyway.

[AddictedOffroad]

Easy there Mr. multiple personalities, take your CJ5 wheelbase RV and haul your ass over to the "which vendor is better" 4 Runner section so you can answer the same question over & over again.

"2007 Black FJ Cruiser
Featured March 07 4x4 Builder Magazine"

Damn, 4x4builder mag, huh? You're f'n hardcore bro!

[YOTAon40s]

That is the :rainbow: rig I have even seen. So :rainbow: that I bet it even has a train horn. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Speaking of GAY, I think your pussy ass ring tone is going off again........ better answer that before the wifey buys the wrong kind of hair dye....
:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[Intrepidyota]

You would be suprised how much tech there is on this thing already....

A-Trac hack (how to hook it up if you didn't pay for it...)
A-Trac and Rear Locker simultaneously...
Bypassing the Vehicle Stability Control (for two wheel fun...)
Clearancing the front body mounts for bigger tires...

and I could go on with all the companies now making sliders, bumpers, skid plates, lift kits, etc....

it's not too bad for a grocery getter. :D

Yeah, I know. I just mean, when SAS's, Exo's, linked suspension, and larger than 40" tires, etc are pirate quality tech, somehow A-TRAC hacks, spacers lifts, and 33's just don't seem to fit in. :laughing: I am sure that FJ's will go the same way as the tacoma and be setup for hardcore shit, I just couldn't resist laughing a little. :D

[12_Volt_Dave]

I just couldn't resist laughing a little. :D

That was the point...:D

[AddictedOffroad]

Speaking of GAY, I think your pussy ass ring tone is going off again........ better answer that before the wifey buys the wrong kind of hair dye....
:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

You just worry about getting your truck out of impound, okay peaches.......:flipoff2:

[NY_crawler]

You would be suprised how much tech there is on this thing already....

A-Trac hack (how to hook it up if you didn't pay for it...)
A-Trac and Rear Locker simultaneously...
Bypassing the Vehicle Stability Control (for two wheel fun...)
Clearancing the front body mounts for bigger tires...

and I could go on with all the companies now making sliders, bumpers, skid plates, lift kits, etc....

it's not too bad for a grocery getter. :D

This would be some decent tech to cover in separate threads as we all know people are just going to start asking and then you can say search:flipoff2:

[Kyle_T]

wow, i thought the only place an FJ owner could buy stuff was at walgreens in the intimate care section??? :flipoff2:

I really do enjoy seeing new FJ's that have been lifted and upgraded, and really like seeing them off road, kind of like this ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lugab0ehZM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7488730796904877032

IIRC same driver.

[mda]

Bypassing the Vehicle Stability Control (for two wheel fun...)

Got a link for this????????

I am hoping the same steps will work on my 06 Toyota Avalon....No it doesn"t have the button to turn that crap off.

[forbergler]

I heard rumor that some yuppies from So-Cal(that's the cool insider way of saying L.A.) went and bought themselves a spiffy new FJ Cruiser with all the bells and whistles and up and decided to try it out the next day on the Rubicon(by themselves, never having even owned a 4-by before). They drove all the way up I-5 and somehow manged to find their way to the trail. By the time they got yarded all the way out, the rig was completely totalled. Any truth to this? Any pics?

[jsnby]

I heard rumor that some yuppies from So-Cal(that's the cool insider way of saying L.A.) went and bought themselves a spiffy new FJ Cruiser with all the bells and whistles and up and decided to try it out the next day on the Rubicon(by themselves, never having even owned a 4-by before). They drove all the way up I-5 and somehow manged to find their way to the trail. By the time they got yarded all the way out, the rig was completely totalled. Any truth to this? Any pics?

I think you're talking about the yellow FJ on the TTORA run last year.... it had all the bells and whistles...sliders, bumpers, winch, 3" lift, 33" tires, etc. Driver had never been off road before and decided to try the Rubicon....After destroying his rear third, breaking one of the rear links, bending the other rear links, denting all the sheet metal...this was what was left:
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/bob_rubicon_06/aby.jpg

There wasn't a straight piece of sheet metal left on it by the time they made rubicon springs. Marlin himself drug the remains up cadillac hill.

Guy turned it into his insurance and they totalled it. Bentup.com bought it and are planning a SAS for it.

[Halogrinder]

Guy turned it into his insurance and they totalled it.

:mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:

who can i kick in the balls for that one?!!??!?! the insurance agent, the inspector or the owner!?!


NO WONDER insurance premiums are so fuggin high! this makes my blood boil when crap like that happens.


btw. how can i get all the way thru the 'con in my crappy little toyota on 33's with no rocker protection, and get *no* dents?

[b2dude]

btw. how can i get all the way thru the 'con in my crappy little toyota on 33's with no rocker protection, and get *no* dents?

that's how i roll:cool2:

[jsnby]

:mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:

who can i kick in the balls for that one?!!??!?! the insurance agent, the inspector or the owner!?!


NO WONDER insurance premiums are so fuggin high! this makes my blood boil when crap like that happens.


btw. how can i get all the way thru the 'con in my crappy little toyota on 33's with no rocker protection, and get *no* dents?

You can blame toyota for that one....he took in some printed advertisement from toyota that said it was "rubicon tested" or "rubicon ready" or something like that, so the insurance had to cover it. It was a bunch of BS ...

There was another FJ on the trail that trip with a guy from toyota and another guy from ARB. They made it through the whole trail without a scratch, but then broke their rear ring gear on cadillac hill. Apparently, that is the weak link on the FJ's.

[SeaBass44]

You can blame toyota for that one....he took in some printed advertisement from toyota that said it was "rubicon tested" or "rubicon ready" or something like that, so the insurance had to cover it. It was a bunch of BS ...

There was another FJ on the trail that trip with a guy from toyota and another guy from ARB. They made it through the whole trail without a scratch, but then broke their rear ring gear on cadillac hill. Apparently, that is the weak link on the FJ's.

bullshit:flipoff2:

will Mazda pay all my speeding tickets because there add says "ZOOM ZOOM" !!!!!!!!!:laughing: :laughing: THAT WAS A STUPID FUCKING INSURANCE COMPANY, it would have not stood up in court:shaking:

[forbergler]

I think you're talking about the yellow FJ on the TTORA run last year.... it had all the bells and whistles...sliders, bumpers, winch, 3" lift, 33" tires, etc. Driver had never been off road before and decided to try the Rubicon....After destroying his rear third, breaking one of the rear links, bending the other rear links, denting all the sheet metal...this was what was left:
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/bob_rubicon_06/aby.jpg

There wasn't a straight piece of sheet metal left on it by the time they made rubicon springs. Marlin himself drug the remains up cadillac hill.

Guy turned it into his insurance and they totalled it. Bentup.com bought it and are planning a SAS for it.

That's beautiful. What a tool:rainbow:

[forbergler]

Is this what we can expect from the majority of FJ Cruiser owners? I hope so. They could be like a comedy version of trail entertainment:D

[12_Volt_Dave]

Got a link for this????????

I am hoping the same steps will work on my 06 Toyota Avalon....No it doesn"t have the button to turn that crap off.

I'll post it up in a new thread....don't know about the Avalon though.

[YOTAon40s]

You just worry about getting your truck out of impound, okay peaches.......:flipoff2:

Maybe you should WORRY about bringing your lazy ass into work. Instead of texting Terry about how your throat is so "soar", Told you to quit fucking with that gay shit brah.......... :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[Rat70FJ]

:mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:


btw. how can i get all the way thru the 'con in my crappy little toyota on 33's with no rocker protection, and get *no* dents?

It's doable with some driving skill, decent spotting and taking your time.

I personally know a guy that took a stock K-5 and another that took a stock full size Bronco through and did the same thing. Turned them into their insurance, both were totaled. Unrelated trips neither guy knew the other, both in the early 80s.

[Slowerthanu]

I went to my parents place in Moab this weekend to visit them. I left my FJ-40 at home. While there I decided to run Kane creek in my dads Fj-62 for the hell of it. Later on I took my mothers FJ-Cruiser (Yes, my mothers) on parts of Behind the rocks and I have to admit, I love the little tank.

I have convinced her of the need to put about 3 inches of lift and a bumper via All Pro because I dragged the sliders a few times.

[kiyul4130]

i remember seeing pictures of this last year :laughing:

http://www.norcalttora.com/gallery/album236/aot
http://www.norcalttora.com/gallery/album236/aos

[faubrunner]

yeah they are prety capeable stock rigs...., but what the ignorant city dwellers who buy them dont know is that toyota had a hole team of professional drivers and spotters to leat that rig through the trail. and plus the thing still has ifs?!?!? what do you expect. im defintaly going to try the con at least once in my 95 runner with ifs before i sas it, but not without protection, lockers, and 33's at least. the con' is no joke ppl are just dumb.

[88'slopoke]

my co worker bought one and dumped a shitload of money into the allpro lift, sliers, and new tires and ARB bumpers. we went out yesterday. he doesnt have his sliders on yet, and could use some more time behind the wheel. considering it carries tires like you would expect, it did pretty well. but a locker will do that.:)

[GRMhick]

You can blame toyota for that one....he took in some printed advertisement from toyota that said it was "rubicon tested" or "rubicon ready" or something like that, so the insurance had to cover it. It was a bunch of BS ...

There was another FJ on the trail that trip with a guy from toyota and another guy from ARB. They made it through the whole trail without a scratch, but then broke their rear ring gear on cadillac hill. Apparently, that is the weak link on the FJ's.

I speak from thousands of miles behind the wheel of an FJ that the ring and pinion is NOT the weak link.

That said, follow us up ANY trail and you will see what the FJ is capiable of neer stock.

[GRMhick]

yeah they are prety capeable stock rigs...., but what the ignorant city dwellers who buy them dont know is that toyota had a hole team of professional drivers and spotters to leat that rig through the trail. and plus the thing still has ifs?!?!? what do you expect. im defintaly going to try the con at least once in my 95 runner with ifs before i sas it, but not without protection, lockers, and 33's at least. the con' is no joke ppl are just dumb.

Yes, people can be dumb. And yes Toyota does hire people who have experience in the industry to take the trucks over trails. It would be dumb of them not to hire profesionals in the industry. But our real job is to let any person (that means you) drive the FJ over the trail. In fact, most pictures you see on the website are of people who have never driven the FJ before, NOT of profesional drivers.

Another thing, take one look at the IFS (with near 1.5" inner shafts) and you'll see that that is no excuse for where the FJ goes on the trail. To say that a truck needs a solid axle and 35's to make it over the Rubicon is disregarding the skills of the average driver.

FYI, the FJ has 32" tires stock.

[resqme]

I heard rumor that some yuppies from So-Cal(that's the cool insider way of saying L.A.) went and bought themselves a spiffy new FJ Cruiser with all the bells and whistles and up and decided to try it out the next day on the Rubicon(by themselves, never having even owned a 4-by before). They drove all the way up I-5 and somehow manged to find their way to the trail. By the time they got yarded all the way out, the rig was completely totalled. Any truth to this? Any pics?

Coulda been these guys:

Well, the Land Cruiser made it through because the Four Dice crew drug them through! We were camped at Buck Saturday night and the Cruiser comes rolling through Sunday morning. They were stuck Saturday night and spent the night in the truck. The girl that was along thought they were going to die. No camping gear and only a couple of power bars. When they passed by they asked how far to the city!! The guy had read about the Con in a mag that said they took a stock FJ through with only a winch and a high lift. Fawk. we told them to turn around and go back the way they came. Nope, on they went. About a half hour later they came back for help as they were stuck on the pivot rock on the Old Sluice. Not being able to leave them we proceeded to guide/drag them through the rest of the trail out Wentworth were our tow rigs were parked. Most of the time they were on the strap behind my rig. At least the guy had some driving skill if not a lot of brains. By the time we were out the list of damage to the Cruiser was as follows:

Bent links front and rear.
Front drive shaft practically broken in two.
All four fender flares gone.
Both running boards destroyed.
No straight sheet metal on either side.
Truck quit running twice and had to be fixed.

The guy was from LA, was headed to SF, then back to LA.

From this thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=530723&highlight=toyota

There are a few pics on the thread

[12_Volt_Dave]

I speak from thousands of miles behind the wheel of an FJ that the ring and pinion is NOT the weak link.

It may not be THE weak link but it is A weak link nevertheless.....

I've seen more than a few posts of people breaking FJC ring gears on the TTORA forum. I have also been witness to one breaking. A buddy broke his on Iron mountain Road.....in the snow.

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/problems-dealer-service/19623-cracked-ring-gear.html

[12_Volt_Dave]

Another thing, take one look at the IFS (with near 1.5" inner shafts) and you'll see that that is no excuse for where the FJ goes on the trail. To say that a truck needs a solid axle and 35's to make it over the Rubicon is disregarding the skills of the average driver.

Of course it doesn't need a solid axle to get over the Con'. I think the point Faubrunner was tring to make is that solid axle is the route to take if you want to build a vehicle designed for rockcrawling. (like the JEEP Rubicon) Toyota didn't build the FJ Cruiser to be a rockcrawler, especially since I'm guessing 95% of the people that buy an FJ will never see any type of rockcrawling. Toyota realizes this, so the IFS was the answer since it provides a smoother ride, etc. I'm sure a ton of us would love to see an FJ "Moab" edition with a solid axle thrown under the front end. But it's a pipe dream. Until then, the aftermarket guys will keep us happy.

Please don't go into a dissertation on how IFS can be as good as Solid Axle for rockcrawling, since most of us on this board know it's just not true. (1.5" inner axles or not...) I know this fact from more than 140 thousand miles behind the wheel of my 86 Toyota, both as a IFS rig and as a solid axle rig. In my experience the IFS can be a capable trail rig with lockers and the right driving skills. But it was never as capable or as reliable as the solid axle.

[faubrunner]

[QUOTE=12_Volt_Dave;6674287]Of course it doesn't need a solid axle to get over the Con'. I think the point Faubrunner was tring to make is that solid axle is the route to take if you want to build a vehicle designed for rockcrawling. (like the JEEP Rubicon) Toyota didn't build the FJ Cruiser to be a rockcrawler, especially since I'm guessing 95% of the people that buy an FJ will never see any type of rockcrawling. Toyota realizes this, so the IFS was the answer since it provides a smoother ride, etc. I'm sure a ton of us would love to see an FJ "Moab" edition with a solid axle thrown under the front end. But it's a pipe dream. Until then, the aftermarket guys will keep us happy.

absolutaly thats all im saying! i fit 32s under my runner stock, but im not trying to attempt anything, 1.5 inners are nice but still it is ifs, ppl just shouldnt go out there and buy these things and expect to make it through the con' no problem. With good driving skill and spotters, then yeah its possible. and i think they should get rid of thoes buldging rear tail lights, lol thoes are in the worst spot to get hit by rocks.

[unimog12chicks]

Ill let you all know how it does on rocks As im going to be putting it into the stock-mod class next yr in Rrock series in Hannibal!!:D:D