What is the hardest trail in the eastern US. Just out of curiousity.

Probably up Niagara Falls ! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Big Cuss:

http://forum.jrocc.com/pics/CusHillSmall.jpg

However, no one has conquered it yet. Several people have pulled to the bottom of it and chickened out.

It is found in JROCC. http://www.jrocc.com

This is NOT used in ERoCC competition because it is too dangerous. However, we used Lil' Cuss in our April event, it is about 1/4 the size of Big Cuss.

Paragon has a new trail called Death Valley, it looks pretty insane. I didn't try it cuz I'm lame and don't have a cage yet. They've got a few others too. Lower 2 at Tellico is pretty tough, but I hear they blasted the top ledge. I'll find out in a month and a half. Looks like the boys in Nova Scotia probably have some really good stuff on the coast, but who wants to go there:D I haven't had the fortune of going to Jellico yet, but I will soon and I'll give you a full report:rasta:

Easy

I'll second the vote by TrailKeeper on Big 'Cuss. I have by no means seen every hard or even every GOOD obstacle on the East Coast but I have seen the Cuss's and they aint no joke! Id say Big Cuss would be damn near impossible. I believe Ken Shuppe saw it and said he would try it if he had 3 winches, the one from his rig and 2 at the top hooked to him. Or was that full throttle?

Holy Fawk:eek: :eek:

We better have to run that in 3 weeks for ERocC. I think I just picked the right line:D Little Cuss was a bitch but that just looks plain mean:) What would the time limit be- 30 minutes;)

Are there going to be fresh obstacles this comp, or a lot of running the previous with different gates?

I'll bring my Jeep up if I can try that obstacle outside of the official competition (since I'm a spotter)

I don't see that being used for competition any time soon. Maybe in a few years if the sport matures and starts to mandate five point harnesses, neck braces, and improved cage protection - even then it would be dangerous. For now, it is just there if someone wants to try it, with proper safety precautions, like multiple winch safety lines.

We are building a bunch of new obstacles for the next event - it is amazing what a trac hoe can do! Some of the favorites will be re-used, but the gates will all be different. I would estimate that over half of the obstacles will be brand new.

For those of you wanting to compete in the next ERoCC competition June 21-23, there are only 40 spots available. You can register now online at http://www.erocc.com

Tim

How does this stack up? Northern Maine

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the new trail 11 at big dogs www.bigdogsoffroad.com called insanity is pretty dam tough. Give it a try in june

Archie,

Why is that hillbilly standing there airing out his pits? :D

Originally posted by Charly
Archie,

Why is that hillbilly standing there airing out his pits? :D

He's the target, we like to make it interesting here in the east

i was at paragon over the weekend and walked death valley the thing is brand new. IN-F'n-SANE!!!! i cant wait to build my cj so i can run it.

there is a guy (steve) with a YJ with 14 bolt and 60 and i think 40+ " tires (dont know how high in the 40's because he sold the 38's he was running) he didnt make the whole thing had to winch.

AND

the rock crusher (big built cj portals, 44's rear steer etc BEAST) and he had to winch too.

it would rank up there its SICK!!!!!

there is a guy (steve) with a YJ with 14 bolt and 60 and i think 40+ " tires (dont know how high in the 40's because he sold the 38's he was running) he didnt make the whole thing had to winch.

AND

the rock crusher (big built cj portals, 44's rear steer etc BEAST) and he had to winch too.

That could be because they can't drive.

I once watched a 1/4 elliptic Sammy on 33's beat a Sniper on 40's in a crawling competition. Driver ability can make many trails easier/harder than they are for others.

Originally posted by Charly
Archie,

Why is that hillbilly standing there airing out his pits? :D

I can just hear him now:

We're not worthy!
We're not worthy!

You are going to show me where that climb is this weekend, right? :D

Originally posted by bigdude


That could be because they can't drive.

I once watched a 1/4 elliptic Sammy on 33's beat a Sniper on 40's in a crawling competition. Driver ability can make many trails easier/harder than they are for others.
He's speaking the truth, The spotter and driver can makeup for the lack of a well built rig. Just because you have money doesn't mean you know how to drive.

Originally posted by bigdude


That could be because they can't drive.

I once watched a 1/4 elliptic Sammy on 33's beat a Sniper on 40's in a crawling competition. Driver ability can make many trails easier/harder than they are for others.

That's what I was thinking.
Three other guys I always wheel with took this other dude that was way more set up than we where. He couldn't make it through half of what we did.
Dumb-ass was pissed off at his rig! :rolleyes:
Yeah right, his TJ with RE long arm, locked at each end on 38" TSL's was a P.O.S...............whatever pal. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by doctor_G


That's what I was thinking.
Three other guys I always wheel with took this other dude that was way more set up than we where. He couldn't make it through half of what we did.
Dumb-ass was pissed off at his rig! :rolleyes:
Yeah right, his TJ with RE long arm, locked at each end on 38" TSL's was a P.O.S...............whatever pal. :rolleyes:

LMAO at that :D. So what's goin' on for the weekend? We have to get something rollin'! Where's Mel? She's the one that mentioned it in the first place :p

the guy with the yj has 42's and he can drive his ass off. so can the guy in the sniper type thing. the new trails at paragon are just pretty sick. from the pics i've seen that insanity trail is out there also, but then again it is the big dogs.

dave

Originally posted by Welby


LMAO at that :D. So what's goin' on for the weekend? We have to get something rollin'! Where's Mel? She's the one that mentioned it in the first place :p

Uniontown?
So far I'm free to come down. Nobody seems to know where and when though. E-mail me :D
What's BAJG Rob doing? I can't seem to get a hold of him.

I can voutch for the drivers on death valley they can drive. I have seen many try but all failed. The rock crusher is an awesome machine it too had to pull cable. This trail is not one to take lightly. It is just under impassible.

I am going to agree with anyone else here that has seen Death Vally at Pargon that trail is sick sick sick!!!!!!!! Charly and Steve both VERY good drivers with some mean ass rigs couldn't make the 1st part!!!!! This trail is crazy and I have a feeling that we will be hearing more about it. Oh yea and don't think it's the hardest trail in the park I am sure there is more out there that havent been found yet!!!!!!!!

But I am willing to bet it's the hardest on the east coast!!!!

I'll be in Paragon this weekend....will put it on my list.

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Those trails are sick!!!!!!

I can vouch that Steve can definitely drive his ass around some rocks. Might be heavy on the pedal, but he's not going for points on driving grace!

Paragon Death Valley aint no joke, that guy steve runs 42 tsl's he had to winch to i believe.....

As far as toughest trail Turtle trail paragon pretty insane

Originally posted by LOS-YJ
Paragon Death Valley aint no joke, that guy steve runs 42 tsl's he had to winch to i believe.....

As far as toughest trail Turtle trail paragon pretty insane

Um...... Ua........Turtle Trail :confused:

turtle trail if your in reverse going down maybe.

dave

Originally posted by TrailKeeper
Big Cuss:
However, no one has conquered it yet. Several people have pulled to the bottom of it and chickened out.

What? you are saying that this pile of rocks on the side of a hill that no one has run is a trial? In that case, 9/10ths of Arizona is a big ass nasty trail. That is utter and complete B.S.
I am sorry, but anything you can just drive around can hardly be considered a trail.

Originally posted by zags


What? you are saying that this pile of rocks on the side of a hill that no one has run is a trial? In that case, 9/10ths of Arizona is a big ass nasty trail. That is utter and complete B.S.
I am sorry, but anything you can just drive around can hardly be considered a trail.

I agree, it is questionable whether you can call this a trail YET, but there is a trail that goes to the bottom of it, and a trail that leads to the top of it, the two sections just haven't been joined together yet. We have permission from the land owner to create the trail. All we need is the first victi....I mean lucky contestant to try it. The trail that leads to the base of this hill is no picnic either, we have had about half the vehicles who have tried to make it just to the bottom break getting there.

We have a trail ride this weekend - who knows, there might just be a picture of a vehicle on this hill posted here on Tuesday.

Originally posted by Welby


LMAO at that :D. So what's goin' on for the weekend? We have to get something rollin'! Where's Mel? She's the one that mentioned it in the first place :p

I'm here dude, just am clueless also, I emailed Todd & haven't heard back yet, I'll call Cris tonight if there is still no response & see if I can find out anything. Bob E said he'd go, you have a preference on a day?

-Mel

Originally posted by Mel85CJ


I'm here dude, just am clueless also, I emailed Todd & haven't heard back yet, I'll call Cris tonight if there is still no response & see if I can find out anything. Bob E said he'd go, you have a preference on a day?

-Mel

Either day's cool with me :D

Seen it! It's sick. This is just the beginning of the trail.
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Originally posted by Archie_G
How does this stack up? Northern Maine


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Gawd Dayum!!! Where I can get flex this good??? :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2:

Death Valley looks worse than that in person. Plus there is a bowl at the top that is sick.

Originally posted by Curtis


Gawd Dayum!!! Where I can get flex this good??? :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2:

Nothing's gonna flex when it's facing straight up in the air :flipoff2:

Hey woody what did you think of it? How did your Paragon trip go?