Ive got a c6 off of a 78 351 modified and i need to know if itll bolt to a 302. Thanks

No, it will not bolt up. You need a "small block" C6-somewhat hard, but not impossible to find......or use a built C4
HTH

you will find the C6 behind 351 W in broncos.

pretty much any 80's truck will have a C-6 if it is an auto. Until you get into the later 80's/early 90's when 4 speed trannys started taking over.

do you realize he's not looking for a c6?

No, it will not bolt up. As said before get a c4 or an adapter from AA.

pretty much any 80's truck will have a C-6 if it is an auto. Until you get into the later 80's/early 90's when 4 speed trannys started taking over.

the C6 was used behind all of the 351W's until the end of 89. In 90 they came out with the E4OD and the C6 was pretty much dropped.

Supposedly you could still find the C6 in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks til mid 90's some time.

Finding a C6 behind a 302 would be a little harder as 85 ish they put in the AOD.

the C6 was used behind all of the 351W's until the end of 89. In 90 they came out with the E4OD and the C6 was pretty much dropped.



isn't that what I said?

if you want to get reeeaaallll technical.. 351's also came backed by AOD's, in passanger cars up into the 90's.
The newest truck I've seen with a C-6 was my old shop teachers 95' F-250, with a 351.


But as I said "pretty much any 80's truck will have a C-6 if it is an auto. Until you get into the later 80's"

isn't that what I said?

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You have to excuse Jopes..sometimes he's got too much wool over his eyes.:flipoff2:

Doesnt AA make a plate for that???? I cant tollay recall but I could have sworn I saw one in the catalog.

C5's were used as well rarer but still used.

I called AA and they dont mess with that adapter. The C6 i have is out of a 78 f-150 and the 302 I have is out of a 74 maverick so nothing is fitting there. Anyone know of anybody with a small block c6 that they want to trade?

tyler where are you located? i have a tranny for a small block. I live in kansas? shippin might be high.

C5's were used as well rarer but still used.

They were used in 2.8/2.9 rangers and bII's 84-85. If you tried to put them behind a 302 or 351 they would explode.

They were used in 2.8/2.9 rangers and bII's 84-85. If you tried to put them behind a 302 or 351 they would explode.

Perfect example of someone talking out their ass! :flipoff2:

Ask yourself one question. What exactly is a C5 tranny? Look it up, you have a red star for fawk sakes! :shaking:


Sean :cool:

enlighten me then, because I see nothing that says otherwise

It was found in a bunch of cars from the same years, but I didnt mention them because they were all 2wd.

it was based off the c4, but from the factory was built with weaker internals and a lock up TC that you cant get anymore. Build it with c4 internals and its a damn good tranny, but from factory it would of exploded behind a 351/302.

c5 is very much a c4 just put a regulag torqu converter in it and go ive put many 302 c5 combos together not a single problem.

Like Fordnut wrote, not only is a C5 basically a C4 with a different bellhousing to bolt to the Cologne V6s and a different tailhousing to bolt to the RBV t-cases (BW 1350-1354) but it also has some internal case modifications that actually improve lubrication and reliability.

Many Rangers and Bronco IIs that are subjected to V8 swaps use a C5 with a C4 bellhousing to mate to the Windsor engine. This is much easier than replacing the tailhousing on a C4 to fit the stock t-case because then the tailshaft also has to be replaced, making the whole procedure a time-consuming one. This is done at all to avoid having to notch the frame by using an unmodified C4 or AOD because the fullsize t-case doesn't quite fit between the framerails. Granted these are lighter rigs but those C5s are not failing any faster because of the V8 in front of them.

Now go put that red star to good use. :flipoff2:

Sean :cool:

You havent told me anything I didnt know already. Now go to a yard and pull a ranger or b2 c5 and see how long it lasts behind a v8. But, rebuild it with a c4 kit and your right it would definatly be a great trans.

Im getting an EB c4 d20 to go in my sploder but I just need to source a c5 bellhousing and flexplate but it will get rebuilt with c4 parts.

just to let you know - i have had a 91 f250 with the 460 and the c6 - i also have seen 92-93 f350 cab and chassie with the c6 - they didnt drop them - they just got left to cheap work trucks :flipoff2:

Check with Jeff's Bronco grave yard. http://broncograveyard.com/ In their PDF catalog they show a kit for a C6 to 289/302/351w.

Good luck! I'm checking into this set up. I have a C4 now but want the stronger C6.

No, it will not bolt up. You need a "small block" C6-somewhat hard, but not impossible to find......or use a built C4
HTH
thats what sucks about ford

You havent told me anything I didnt know already. Now go to a yard and pull a ranger or b2 c5 and see how long it lasts behind a v8. But, rebuild it with a c4 kit and your right it would definatly be a great trans.

Im getting an EB c4 d20 to go in my sploder but I just need to source a c5 bellhousing and flexplate but it will get rebuilt with c4 parts.

I have told you, as well as at least one other person who has done it, that the stock C5 can take the power of a 302 without taking a dump. Merely upgrading to C4 internals doesn't guarantee a stout transmission but I can tell you that a good tranny cooler on a C5 behind a 302 will do more for it than C4 internals alone. And lets be clear that these swaps are for RBVs (Ranger Based Vehicles) and not for fullsize trucks. Your EB is borderline but because you want to use the D20, you need the C4 tailhousing so I understand your point of view.

I have two complete C5s in my garage. It was far easier for me to buy a complete Bronco 2 and break it down than finding just a C5 by itself! :shaking: Maybe you'll have better luck in your area. I made my money back from selling the parts I didn't need. Also, with a complete C5, you can rebuild it with your C4 internals and make use of the internal case modifications of the C5 case. If you plan on a doubler later on, DD Machine makes a nice little unit using RBV t-cases but you would need the original C5 tailhousing and shaft for that to work. It's very inexpensive too, as far as doublers go.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465032
I made my own before they came out with theirs but I didn't save that much money.


Sean :cool:

thats what sucks about ford

Yeah but the fact that all their fullsize t-cases bolt to any fullsize tranny makes up for it. :D

And we are only talking about two different tranny bolt patterns anyways.:p


Sean :cool:

A built c-5 still wont last behind a 302 if your doing alot of reverse to neutral pounds.

Im not doing a doubler, thats why im going to a c4/d20 I want to keep the drivetrain short for possiblility of shortening the rear frame with a 4 link in the future. The lowmax d20 kit will work fine for me along with my 5.13's.